frostyg02uk
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- 28 Jun 2007
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Because the mass media just give the audience an over-simplified skeleton of information, and the news reports are made into easily understood stories that fit into the unrealistic black/white opposites. (I believe this tendency to perceive the world as two opposites is found more in the west, maybe due to the dialectic tradition, but I'm not very sure.) The "past" you are talking about is easily understood as the conflict between the malignant and the benevolent. Also, the gullible audience who tend to take things at face value easily fall for rhetoric like this. ☝the newspaper in English reports that Japan is a bad country.
Why are Japan in English said and Japan of the reality different?
It is the media in English that tend to catch Japan in the image of something
eerie country.
And, there is power to which it is sent from Japan.
It swells "Distorted Japan" image.
Sorry to have taken so long to get back to you, frosty.Im interested, what type of experience do you mean that would let a person by pass the degree requirement to let you work as an english teacher in Japan?
here is another story
産経ニュース
According to Mass madia in USA,
1)The nationalism of Japan is uplifted
2)Gaining power of the thought police in Japan
It was analyzed that political atmosphere non-generous to the speech of Japan had occurred.
the newspaper in English reports that Japan is a bad country.
Why are Japan in English said and Japan of the reality different?
It is the media in English that tend to catch Japan in the image of something
eerie country.
And, there is power to which it is sent from Japan.
It swells "Distorted Japan" image.
why?
Japan is scary about Japanese potential for them?
I think they overrate Japan too much.
It cannot judge the reality by seeing only in the past by stereotype of prejudice.
anyway
why is it so biased?
Don't you think Japanese nationalism is on the rise, at least from the government's standpoint?here is another story
産経ニュース
According to Mass madia in USA,
1)The nationalism of Japan is uplifted
why is it so biased?
I dont feel it at all.Don't you think Japanese nationalism is on the rise, at least from the government's standpoint?
we need it.1) They want to teach patriotism in schools. Even the Japanese citizens are afraid of this leading to warlike nationalistic policies
Of course.) The government before Abe was all in favor of putting English in elementary schools, and now Abe's cabinet has canceled that. No valid reason, of course, but they claim students need to learn Japanese better first
.3) There is a move to establish an offensive army in Japan, instead of maintaining the Self-Defense Forces. Sounds pretty nationalistic to me
.4) History textbooks are being rewritten to exclude atrocities of war
.5) Government officials make blatant gaffes on the news about comfort women, Nankin, etc. This shows that despite their apologies, such older thinking still exists
it is a natural to pray for peace in front of them.6) Prime Ministers still visit Yasukuni Shrine, despite public outrage locally and abroad
Granted I am in no way defending any of this, but these fully fledged morons are a minority, thankfully.7) Morons like certain math teachers print books like this. http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/fb20070708a2.html
2) The government before Abe was all in favor of putting English in elementary schools, and now Abe's cabinet has canceled that. No valid reason, of course, but they claim students need to learn Japanese better first.]
3) There is a move to establish an offensive army in Japan, instead of maintaining the Self-Defense Forces. Sounds pretty nationalistic to me.
Bucko I not trying to down play your oppinions, but how well can accurately say that what the person you were talking to was infact a so called "Nihonjinron type" as you put it? I have been here for a long time now and watched how my views have changed with my ability to understand and comprehend the complete picture. Most of us gaijin get a one sided story that is dirrected at us in particular as it makes for good reading or publicity. Anyone feed the a one sided story will eventually think in a one sided manner.Morons like this guy make for good conversation though. I've met my fair share of "nihonjinron" types in Japan, both young and old, and if there's one thing that all of them share in common, it's that they reek of inferiority complex. I read the other day in a book called "Lost Japan" that of all the countries in the world, Japan has written the most books about how unique a country it is. The author went on to say that this is because almost everything about Japan came from overseas, thus the cultural inferiority complex. These types of Japanese people are constantly trying to convince themselves that they're "special" because deep in their hearts there is the niggling voice telling them things like how their writing system came from China, modern technology came from the west, much of their culture and mannerisms came from China, they lost WWII, despite the huge population nothing significant has been invented in Japan, etc etc.
Bucko, I don't get it. In your OP, you said that those negative stereotypes against Japan are not true, but then you defeat the purpose of your own thread by reinforcing them.
As for your statement in bold, is it also a coincidence that Japan actually has the highest rate literacy in the world in reagards to how much they read in the form of books? Just going by this statistic alone it would be fair to say that that information is biased, don't you think?
Bucko I not trying to down play your oppinions, but how well can accurately say that what the person you were talking to was infact a so called "Nihonjinron type" as you put it?
You pretty much got the drift of it, Japanese are way above most countries when it comes to reading. And are these books in fact "nationalistic" or just books providing information to the masses about the wonders of Japan? Does Australia not do the same thing? They advertise overseas useing many means of media and in fact within Australia too on how beautiful and relaxing it is among other things, I believe this is regarded as tourism.Frustrated Dave, sorry could you clarify this please? Are you saying that Japanese read more books than people of other countries? If so, then I don't doubt that it's true, but surely the difference couldn't be so great as to warrent so many "nationalistic" books? I just thought it was an interesting thesis, that's all.
I don't think I have met a person who thinks their own country is pile crap with nothing special to offer? There is certainly people who think like that in this world, but I have yet to met them here or back home. Even if it is only a small thing that they might consider good. You have to remember that these kinds of things are conversation topics. What do you talk about in Australia when talking to a stranger, usually it is the weather, footy , what happened yesterday in the news or the cricket. When you stop comparing what you are used to ,then you may find out that no one is trying to ram this info down your throat to try and make themselves feel bigger and better than everyone else, it is just a conversational topic that most people find they have in common when talking to a gaijin.How would you define a "Nihonjinron" type? My definition is a Japanese person who thinks that Japan is "more unique" than other countries, and that Japanese people have "special" connections to things that people from other countries are unable to experience (e.g. connections to nature, harmony (ヒ彗) etc). Going by that definition then I have definately met people who believe it.
You pretty much got the drift of it, Japanese are way above most countries when it comes to reading. And are these books in fact "nationalistic" or just books providing information to the masses about the wonders of Japan? Does Australia not do the same thing? They advertise overseas useing many means of media and in fact within Australia too on how beautiful and relaxing it is among other things, I believe this is regarded as tourism.
Again I go back to my point about the validity of some of these sources, I know you have heard the term "don't believe everything you hear!".
Hey, I don't think everyone is perfect and everyone should have pride in their own country and heritage. Experience is just that, the more you get the more you will understand. Don't be hard on yourself for feeling the way you do, I can remember in my first years here how my feelings towards living here and its people went up and down like a yoyo. I don't care what anyone says, living in a different culture has a lot of hidden pressures that do take its toll in the form of stress. even if you don't notice it ,it is there.I agree that Australians are just as guilty of ツ坂?ケツ州ツ人ヒ彑 as the Japanese are of 窶愿コ窶怒ツ人ヒ彑. And don't get me started on 窶「テ?坂?伉人ヒ彑The focus of my last post, however, was the peculiarities of 窶愿コ窶怒ツ人ヒ彑.
This actually begs a new question - are the Japanese attacked more than other countries regarding their own self belief? Or maybe it's about the same? I know people love bagging Americans, and I've heard many bad things about the French (although I'm not too familiar with their culture). Unfortunately for me Japan is really the only foreign culture I've experienced so I can't really compare.
Yes.I dont feel it at all.
Do you feel it in reality concretely
That theory has been proven so wrong in other countries that it is ridiculous to even think about it. Try again, caster.it has nothing to do with that.
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according to His Nihongo( japanese language) theory, the most important thing for the japanese is to master the difficult Japanese language perfectly first.
You need to read more carefully. I wrote MOVE, not MOVIE. Go back and reread my post.There is a move to establish an offensive army in Japan, instead of maintaining the Self-Defense Forces. Sounds pretty nationalistic to me
are not there movie such like that in USA?
these movie were not drawn with hostility
It is an enterteiment
there were many movie like that in 60' 70' 80' 90'
What do you mean "how"? It was practically written out of the nationalistic textbook completely. That's "how".4) History textbooks are being rewritten to exclude atrocities of war
HOw?
there were no comfot women Issue and Nanking in 80'
it was also rewritten.
No, I don't "got it". I don't even know what you are talking about.5) Government officials make blatant gaffes on the news about comfort women, Nankin, etc. This shows that despite their apologies, such older thinking still exists
so bring an evidence.
it has nothing to do with Japanese nationalism.
it is a natural to pray for peace in front of them.
you got it?
Please stop with the insulting, condescending "got it?", ok?6) Prime Ministers still visit Yasukuni Shrine, despite public outrage locally and abroad
it is a natural to pray for peace in front of them.
you got it?
Dead link. Pretty much sums up your case, too.
I'm not saying the whole bloody country is going nationalist. I'm just saying if one looks at the nation's leaders and their policies, it has a strong tendency to lean in that direction.
in case of Singapore, they tend to forget chinese language.There is no solid evidence to show that kids can't learn 2 or more languages at the same time. Happens all over the world.
Nationalism does not have to be shown in violent demonstrations. I've already shown non-violent forms of such movements.could you tell me it concretely in reallity as a real movement of nationalism from nation's leaders and their policies.
I mean violence demonstration, burnt other countrire flag and so on
Sorry to have taken so long to get back to you, frosty.
Experience, whether you shoot for a work visa to teach or do other sorts of work, is related work experience. Want a teaching job but don't have the degree? You will need to show at least 3 years of full-time teaching experience. Want an engineering job but have no degree? You will need to show engineering experience (more years, though, I think). There is always a gray area in determining just what that experience is, but the number of years is usually non-negotiable.