Kirisame said:Now here's another doubt : 気持ち、思い、感情など。。how are they actually used? I am curious to know some of the different ways in which they are used in conversation.
For example : My feelings towards Mayumi-san hasn't changed a bit.
真弓さんには 俺の気持ち ちっとも 変わらなかった。 (my try)
Can 感情、思い。。など be substituted in the above sentence?
Yeah, I just couldn't be sure if Kirisame meant for the English to be "haven't changed" (変わらない） or "hadn't changed" (（変わっていなかった）。。。。either is obviously fine depending on the time element of what is being said.ralian said:In this situation, I would use either 気持ち or 思い.
「真弓さんへの思いは、全く変わっていなかった」 :12:
This is because you are talking about affection toward Mayumi which is more than just 感情.
感情 does not express affection.
Elizabeth said:Quote:
Originally Posted by ralian
In this situation, I would use either 気持ち or 思い.
「真弓さんへの思いは、全く変わっていなかった」
This is because you are talking about affection toward Mayumi which is more than just 感情.
感情 does not express affection.
Yeah, I just couldn't be sure if Kirisame meant for the English to be "haven't changed" (変わらない） or "hadn't changed" (（変わっていなかった）。。。。either is obviously fine depending on the time element of what is being said
Glenn said:I think that "haven't changed" is better represented by 変わっていない than 変わらない. The latter is more like "doesn't change" or "won't change."
Isn't 変わらなかった closer to "didn't change" ?Kirisame said:I see. I think the same way too. Therefore I was a little confused when the haven't changed" (変わらない） or "hadn't changed" (（変わっていなかった） suggestion came up. I wondered why the past tense of haven't changed wasn't 変わらなかった。 But of course I'm not blaming anyone here, just thinking a bit deeper on what people have said.
Elizabeth said:Isn't 変わらなかった closer to "didn't change" ? Anyway, I'd just like to know when they are used without worrying about a precise mapping of terminologies.
At least speaking in the affirmative seems easier. "kawatta" can be "has/have changed" or just "changed," although I wouldn't use the latter quite as naturally in English
You can use the past tense here to talk about a present state ?ralian said:Next one tells that his feeling has not been changed (and still feel the same.)
「真弓さんへの気持ちは、全く変わっていなかった。」
「今でも好きだよ」
Elizabeth said:Quote:
Originally Posted by ralian
Next one tells that his feeling has not been changed (and still feel the same.)
「真弓さんへの気持ちは、全く変わっていなかった。」
「今でも好きだよ」
You can use the past tense here to talk about a present state ?
In fact, yes you can.Elizabeth said:You can use the past tense here to talk about a present state ?
それで、Ralianさんの上の例えのように、 「変われってなかった」と置き換えても、意味は変わらないの？pipokun said:He did/does not change his mind toward her even in a situation, say, where Mayumi dumped A before.
Then they met each other and fell in love again.
A wants to say he loves her so much.
たとえ、まゆみにふられても、まゆみへの思いは変わらなかった。
今もまゆみを愛している。そして、未来もまゆみを愛する。
詳しい返事してくれてどうもありがとう。pipokun said:I know what you mean. I should have used the present perfect for the sentence, he did/does not change his mind toward her even in a situation, say, where Mayumi dumped A before.
But the first question was the reason why you can use the past sentence in the present situation. If I used the present perfect, I would have to explain the very complex relationship between the tense and the aspect, or even the mood in J grammer. So I simply used "did/does" in the sentence.
a)まゆみへの思いは変わらなかった。simple past
b)まゆみへの思いは変わっていなかった。past perfect
There are the gramatical differences between the aboves. And if you read only the sentence, a) or b), you think Mayumi should ask a question like
What does he think of Mayumi NOW???
And the sentence would be better that まゆみへの思いは（今でも）変わっていない。present perfect
Even thogh the differences, it does not matter if you use a) or b) in the situation, I suppose. Why? Because they love each others now and A just wants to show his love now using his past as an example.
There might be only a sentence "I love you", but there might be millions of ways to show your love to your partner.
英語の勉強を始めて10年以上経っても、私の英語力は変わっていなかった。
ところで、英語でも日本語でも、
現在完了形くらいのタイミングも同じではないのでしょ うかな？
英語の現在完了形ではタイミングの使い方がちょっと変 わりやすいなので、
ちょっと分からない日本人が多いでしょう。
とにかく、日本語では、「誰かへの思い（気持ち」は「 誰かを愛してる」ということですか？
日本語独特の遠まわしな言い方で、ストレートな表現が多い英語に
慣れているとわかりにくいですよね。
I think another way of saying you will be staying in a taiwanese hotel will be来月、私わ台湾のホテルにいます。
Raigetsu, watashi wa taiwan no beaufort hotel ni imasu
何人もいますか?
Nampito mo imasu ka?
Is anyone else staying there? I'd love to meet up with the other people who frequent this message board.
ホームページの看客,一緒に会いましょわいいです。
Homupeeji no kakkaku, Issho ni aimasho wa ii desu.
Something like the following is also alright I would imagine.Kirisame said:I think another way of saying you will be staying in a taiwanese hotel will be
来月 私は台湾のホテルに泊まっています。
In my opinion the particle mo need not be included if you are just simply asking how many people are there.
そこに泊まっている人がいますか？ホームページに立ち寄る皆さんに合えたらいいな。 Just a small try.
そのうち慣れてきて何もかもが当たり前になってきてね。GoldCoinLover said:Elizabeth, I don't know how you can write Japanese so well, not being a native Japanese. That is smashing
I need this picture translated. It's in Japanese. Good news! I'm getting Japanese For Dummies book and a kanji reference guide! I can't wait. I will be able to read Japanese.
Elizabeth said:そのうち慣れてきて何もかもが当たり前になってきてね 。
何もかも; 何も彼も 【なにもかも】 (adv,exp,n) anything and everything; just about everythingKirisame said:Ok, I would imagine the above sentence to mean 'After getting used to (it) for some time, anything else becomes natural (to me).
GoldCoinLover said:I need this picture translated. It's in japanese. Good news! I'm getting Japanese For Dummies book and a kanji reference guide! I can't wait. I will be able to read japanese.