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That よう is not the conjugation suffix of the volitional form but the stem of a na-adjective 様だ.

the volitional form
入る --> 入ろう
食べる --> 食べよう

na-adjective
入る --> 入るようだ/ように
食べる --> 食べるようだ/ように
入らない --> 入らないようだ/ように

Unlike the suffix よう, the na-adjective 様だ is attached to the conclusive form(終止形) of a verb/an adjective.

ために can be misinterprited that it expressees the reason why the event in the main clause happened.
e.g.
風が入らないために、部屋が蒸し暑くなった。
 

I don't understand anything but thanks, will try later.

ために can be misinterprited that it expressees the reason why the event in the main clause happened.
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Got it! Thanks again.
 
よう in 入らないように has nothing to do with the volitional form.
 
? I meant I said it wasn't a volitional condition (not form) (expressing volitional) in previous page. The additional explaination of the structure come from the book, which distinguise youni and tameni, not me.

Anyway I understand.
 
Ah I see. What is said in the explanation about the difference between ように and ために, BTW?
 
Toritoribe said:
Ah I see. What is said in the explanation about the difference between ように and ために, BTW?
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I'm not sure I'm understand it, anyway here:

With the exception here is なる which is both non-volitional and volitional.

PS: seem like I remembered switching tameni and youni, oh well anyway...
 
Yeah, that's the key of your confusion. According to the explanation, which is of course accurate, ように is for non-volitional verbs and ために is for volitional verbs. 風が入らない is non-volitional, therefore ように is used.;-)
 
Hi there,I would like to ask what does "気持ちいいくらい" means exactly?
 
Oops, my bad..
The whole sentence is 気持ちいいくらい納得した..."納得した"is understood, but for the 気持ちいいくらい, I had no idea...
Could you explain it for me?
 
Totally, completely, perfectly or something like that
 
Hello, this seems to be an expression, but I have no context at all, so I'm not sure what verb I should use to tranlate:

今浮かれないでいつ浮かれる !

浮く 【うく】 (v5k,vi) (1) to float; (2) (See 浮かぬ顔) to become merry; to be cheerful; (3) to become loose; to become unsteady; (4) (col) to feel out of it; to be cut off (e.g. from those around you); to feel out of place; (5) to be frivolous; to be uncertain; (6) to have no basis; to be unreliable;

The first one, to be cheerfull is the most common?

If you're not cheerful now, when will you be?
 
I have a question about the words 歩く and 歩む. I see that both have the same meaning, 'to walk'. But is there any difference on the usage of the two? Are they interchangeable? It seems that 歩く is more frequently used, though.
 
Hello!

I'm actually reading a collection of Yamaguchi Seishi's haikus.

One of my favourites is this one, of which I have both the translation and the romaji:



natsu no kawa akaki tessa no hashi hitaru.


River in summer:
The end of a red iron chain
Soaks in the water.
​


So I decided to try to write the Japanese text. Here's my attempt:


夏の川赤き鉄鎖の端浸る。


​

My question: Is my Japanese correct? Feel free to correct me, as the mistakes we make help us to learn….

Many thanks
 

歩く is more of an everyday, literal word for "walk", where 歩む is more figurative and metaphorical (e.g., 人生の道を歩む).

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uimanabi said:
夏の川赤き鉄鎖の端浸る。
Is my Japanese correct?
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It's not wrong, but the original seems to be 夏の河赤き鉄鎖の端浸る (i.e., 河, not 川). You can check these sorts of thing with a Google search.
 
What's 気持ちがうまい as in お祝いの気持ちがうまく伝えられません。?

Can't send congratulation... something?

This is about wedding's speeches. Thanks!
 
うまく is the adverbial form, thus, it modifies 伝えられません.
 
Hi everyone! Is there a common Japanese word out there that basically means "gentleman" in the Victorian sense of the word? I know that Yamato Nadeshiko means an "ideal woman." The word I am looking for may be a male counterpart to that, but should give the message that the "gentleman" is sophisticated, smart, maybe rich but not necessarily, but comes from good breeding. Thanks!
 
I believe the word you want is 紳士 (shinshi).

By the way, the word for "lady/ladies" that gets paired with that one is 淑女 (shukujo). It's even a set expression: 紳士淑女 (shinshi-shukujo).
 
Agreed. The most common word for "gentleman" is 紳士 "shinshi", and its counterpart is "shukujo", not "yamatonadeshiko". The pair word for yamatonadeshiko would be yamatoonoko, nihondanji, masurao, or something like that, but these words doesn't have such nuance; sophisticated, smart or rich.
 
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