Need a word or phrase translated?

Toritoribe · 27 Mar 2008

Elizabeth said:
まず、文語体の法律についてですが。。。
昔は、「べし」からの「すべき（く）、するべき（く）」というのは、should/ought to/must ってことだったでしょう？
つまり、「「当然/推量/可能/命令/意思・決意」」は「するべき、すべく」を意味するものであっても、上記のような説明で「１．Should/ought/must / ２。In order to」どちらの意味は間違ってはいないと思ったのですがどうですか？
彼は王になるべく生まれた = He was born to the man that must be made king ？？
現代的な響きの表現が実は古くからあったということですか？

書き方がわかりにくかったですね。
古語助動詞「べし」は「当然/推量/可能/命令/意思・決意」の意味を持っていたけど、現代語としての副詞的用法「べく」は、意味を「するために/するように」にほぼ固定されている、と言いたかったんですが。

彼は王になるべく生まれた。＝彼は王になるように生まれた/生まれついた。

格助詞をより文語的に換えて「彼は王となるべく生まれた/生まれついた」も使えますね。
ちなみに古語助動詞「べし」は現代語でも意外と使われていて、

断固戦うべし(; 終止形)
ここでは笑うべきではない(; 連体形)
救出すべく努力している(; 連用形)
芝生に入るべからず(; 未然形)

などが日常見られる表現ですね。書き言葉が多いでしょうが。

Toritoribe · 27 Mar 2008

tokapi said:
online translated のぞいてみたいです as " I rather not go " ☝

ah, the computer must misunderstand 覗いてみたい as 除いてみたい.

JMoon · 27 Mar 2008

Quick Question.
Sorry I still have to figure out how to type in Japanese..so I will write in romanji.

When writing "Arigato" it ends in the character representing "to" right?
But Domo Arigato ends in the character represeting "U"?

Is this correct?

undrentide · 27 Mar 2008

JMoon said:
Quick Question.
Sorry I still have to figure out how to type in Japanese..so I will write in romanji.
When writing "Arigato" it ends in the character representing "to" right?
But Domo Arigato ends in the character representing "U"?
Is this correct?

I write it in hiragana, and corresponding alphabets (which is romaji, not romanji, by the way. ;-) )
どうもありがとう
ど do
う u
も mo
あ a
り ri
が ga
と to
う u
The reason is "ou" is pronounced o- (long o) instead of o + u, thus people who write not based on kana but based on what they hear, tend to write "domo arigato" instead of "doumo arigatou".
Hope it makes sense.

Jiyuu · 27 Mar 2008

After months, hello again

I'm pretty hooked with Kenji Kawai's 3 songs for Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence soundtrack. Would someone help translating them to English? 'Cause I am really curious about what they say.

The Ballade Of Puppets: Flowers Grieve And Fall

hitohi hitoyo ni tsuki wa terazutomo
kanashimi ni nuetori naku
a ga kaeri misuredo
hana wa chirinubeshi
nagusamuru kokoro wa
kenuru ga gotoku
aratayo ni kamutsudoite
yo wa ake
nuetori naku
saku hana wa
kami ni koinomu
ikeru yo ni
a ga mi kanashimo
ime wa kenu
uramite chiru

The Ballade Of Puppets: In A New World Gods Will Descend

kanashimi ni nuetori naku
a ga kaheri misuredo
hana wa chirinubeshi
nagusamuru kokoro wa
kenuru ga gotoku
aratayo ni kamutsudoite
yo wa ake
nuetori naku
saku hana wa
kami ni koinomu
ikeru yo ni
a ga mi kanashimo
ime wa kenu
ikeru yo ni
a ga mi kanashimo
ime wa kenu
uramite chiru

The Ballade Of Puppets: The Ghost Awaits In The World Beyond

kagiroi wa
yomi ni matamuto
kagiroi wa
yomi nu matamuto
saku hana wa
kami ni koinomu
ikeru yo ni
a ga mi kanashimo
ime wa kenu
uramite chiru
uramite chiru
momoyo no kanashiki
tokoyami ni
kaiko no komuyo wo
sumekami ni nomu

Thanks in advance.

ハダカ · 28 Mar 2008

Still cannot get what くそ AND 行くせよ means.... And also 始めるぞ ^^'

And THAT sound file is the one SUPER needed to be translated! I know there's Japanese here that can recognize words!

yevgeny · 28 Mar 2008

I need to translate a sentence from Russian to Japanese.
The original sentence is (translated to English as closer as I could):
"As for John and Peter, who writes kanji more beautifully?"

Is my translation correct?
ジョンとピーターとだれの方が漢字を綺麗に書きますか。
Another option I thought of:
ジョンとピーターとたれが漢字を書くの方が綺麗ですか。

JMoon · 29 Mar 2008

undrentide said:
I write it in hiragana, and corresponding alphabets (which is romaji, not romanji, by the way. ;-) )
どうもありがとう
ど do
う u
も mo
あ a
り ri
が ga
と to
う u
The reason is "ou" is pronounced o- (long o) instead of o + u, thus people who write not based on kana but based on what they hear, tend to write "domo arigato" instead of "doumo arigatou".
Hope it makes sense.

Thank you for the reply.
The book I was using wrote in Hiragana and wrote:

ありがと one time as a way of saying Thank you.

And then other time wrote

どうもありがとう

So did the book make a mistake?
ありがと is that wrong?

Should it be ありがとう all the time?

I was just thinking that since どうも was used right before, this type of ありがとう followed it.

I hope I am a little more clear as to what I am trying to ask.

And oops, I keep forgetting its Romaji. I keep thinking of Romans!

JMoon · 29 Mar 2008

Another question:

I was watching Naruto...and was just wondering what exactly does Dattebayo mean?
I understand it's some sort of slang.

Thank you.

Toritoribe · 29 Mar 2008

yevgeny said:
I need to translate a sentence from Russian to Japanese.
The original sentence is (translated to English as closer as I could):
"As for John and Peter, who writes kanji more beautifully?"
Is my translation correct?
ジョンとピーターとだれの方が漢字を綺麗に書きますか。

ジョンとピーターでは、どちら(の方)が漢字を綺麗に書きますか？

Another option I thought of:
ジョンとピーターとたれが漢字を書くの方が綺麗ですか。

In this case, 方/ほう has to put after 誰. 書く方 (basic form of verb + 方, の is not necessary) is used in the context that 書く is compared to the alternative, such like 書く方と話す方(と)ではどちらが得意ですか？

Elizabeth · 29 Mar 2008

JMoon said:
Another question:

I was watching Naruto...and was just wondering what exactly does Dattebayo mean?
I understand it's some sort of slang.

Thank you.

Naruto - "datte bayo" | Japan Forum

ありがとう is correct. :

camastercoolG · 29 Mar 2008

Please could someone translate the following for me?

ある日の事です。

Thanks.

camastercoolG · 29 Mar 2008

I'm also having trouble putting this bad boy into good English;

池の中に咲いている蓮の花は、みんな玉のように真っ白で、その真ん中

にある金色の部分からは、不思議なよいにおいが花のまわりにあふれています

Buntaro · 30 Mar 2008

ある日の事です。

--> a thing (or event) that happend one day. (Context of the situation would help make a more accurate translation.)

i'm also having trouble putting this bad boy into good English;

--> Give it a shot. Let's see how you do. Then, we can help you with your translation.

camastercoolG · 30 Mar 2008

Alrighty then here goes, don't laugh!

池の中に咲いている蓮の花は、みんな玉のように真っ白で、その真ん中

にある金色の部分からは、不思議なよいにおいが花のまわりにあふれています。

The blooming lotus flowers on the pond, like bright jewels, from the golden colour part in the middle, a miraculous smell surrounded them.

...kinda thing XD

Elizabeth · 30 Mar 2008

Buntaro said:
ある日の事です。
--> a thing (or event) that happend one day. (Context of the situation would help make a more accurate translation.)

It's nothing more really than their way of saying "On a certain day..."

単に、「ある日だ」という日本語は聞いたことがないですからね。

lilyofthevalley · 30 Mar 2008

I've been wondering this for a while ><... how do you say hair straightener/flat iron in Japanese? Maybe it's just katakanaized

And when you go to a salon, how do you say you want your hair thinned out?

Toritoribe · 30 Mar 2008

lilyofthevalley said:
I've been wondering this for a while ><... How do you say hair straightener/flat iron in Japanese? maybe it's just katakanaized

Probably ストレートヘアアイロン, ヘアストレーナー or the like

lilyofthevalley;567376 said:
And when you go to a salon, how do you say you want your hair thinned out?

髪をすいて下さい。(kami o suite kudasai)

Hope this helpful

JMoon · 30 Mar 2008

Elizabeth said:
ありがとう is correct.

Darn book confusing me!
ありがとう =)

regregreg · 31 Mar 2008

I've always wondered, is there any difference between 小犬, 子犬 and 仔犬?

Jericho Desu · 31 Mar 2008

Hi, I'm hoping these characters show up (copy/pasting from JWPce) but if I say ほんとうあそうこですか
is that correct?

undrentide · 31 Mar 2008

Jericho Desu said:
Hi, I'm hoping these characters show up (copy/pasting from JWPce) but if I say ほんとうあそうこですか
is that correct?

All I can say is that it sounds a bit unnatural, but whether it is correct or wrong is hard to tell without context.
Oh, and I assume you mean あそこ not あそうこ. (あそこ = over there)
Can you tell us what you would like to say in English?

undrentide · 31 Mar 2008

regregreg said:
I've always wondered, is there any difference between 小犬, 子犬 and 仔犬?

There's no difference in meaning, all of them mean "puppy/kiskutya".
子犬 and 小犬 are found in dictionaries but 仔犬 is sometimes used, too.
子 means child, 小 means small, 仔 means small child (also something small), so all of them make sense.

lilyofthevalley · 31 Mar 2008

Toritoribe said:
probably ストレートヘアアイロン, ヘアストレーナー or the like
髪をすいて下さい。(kami o suite kudasai)
hope this helpful

thank-you for your help~ seems like ヘアアイロン is most common.

another question orz

小山さんによろしくと言っておきます。
"say hi to mr. koyama for me"
is that correct?

i guess 小山さんによろしく伝えてください is better though D: ?

Jericho Desu · 31 Mar 2008

undrentide said:
All I can say is that it sounds a bit unnatural, but whether it is correct or wrong is hard to tell without context.
Oh, and I assume you mean あそこ not あそうこ. (あそこ = over there)
Can you tell us what you would like to say in English?

I was going for "Really? It's over there?"

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