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- 18 Sep 2005
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Ah I see. I was way off there. Thanks for adding in all the extra examples too. As always, your help is top notch. Thanks again Undrentide-san! :emoji_writing_hand:
よく indeed means well, but it is also used to emphasise one's feeling, both positive and negative.
よく、よくぞ : in admiration, amazement, surprise, etc., basically positive.
e.g.
よく（ぞ）言った！ I'm glad you've said that. (Admiration, "well said!")
よくやった！ Well done!
よくぞ聞いてくれました I'm glad you asked. (The speaker wanted to be asked
よくも: how could you! how dare you! (with negative connotation. Degree varies from lightly appalled to accusing, Blaming, disgusted, etc.)
よくも言ったな！ How dare you say that!
よくもやったな！
よくもまあ、これだけ散らかしたものだ。 How did you managed to mess it up!
Your question 「よくとれたね！」 is the former one, the speaker is either amazed or impressed that the person managed to get the ticket which is not easy to obtain (because the train is very popular or it is always crowded, etc.)
So it is something like "wow, you managed to get it!" or "how did you manage to get it?!".
This may be more detail than you ever wanted to know, but since I tracked it down...a nice post from Sep '06 courtesy of Japanese member umbabasan...:
There are still a lot cases where it seems there isn't much difference between こと and の, or where there is only a strong preference for one over the other like ＸＸＸのがすきです。 while in other instances a mistake is ungrammatical.
それぞれの会話の状況によるので一言では違いを言えません。:emoji_nerd:
Since it seems confusing 「の」and 「こと」, may I keep going? Sorry if you have already heard about this.
These are the sentences you can NOT replace の with こと.
They all are telling who/what, when, where and why.
留学するの（when）は来年です。
会うの（when）はいつですか？。
歌うの（who）は誰ですか？。
結婚したの（who）は彼女の兄です。
仕事をするの（when）は明日からです。
一緒に遊んだの（where）はあの公園です。
失敗するのは（why）練習不足だからだ。
返事が来るの（when）は１週間後です。
勉強するのは（where）この教室だ。
人気があるの（what）は野球です。
スポーツを始めたの（why）は健康のためです。
Sentences の can be replaced with こと.
They are always followed by verb, adjective, adverb, form to do with your emotion. and other noun.
留学すること（の）が目標だ。
会うこと（の）が楽しみです。
歌うこと（の）が好きだ。
結婚したこと（の）を後悔している。
仕事をすること（の）は面倒くさい。
一緒に遊んだこと（の）を覚えている。
返事が来ること（の）を待っています。
失敗すること（の）には慣れています。
勉強すること（の）は得意だ。
人気があること（の）はうれしい。
スポーツを始めたこと（の）を知っています。
Where did you find this "phrase"? To be honest I cannot pronounce it.How do you pronounce this: 撃ゃれば
I think in romaji this is: gekyareba (I'm assume the small "ゃ ya" turns "撃 geki" into gekya)
I know it means something like: "be shot"... is the verb gekyaru in dictionary form?
I'd appreciate any help. Thanks.
もうやだよーー :emoji_frowning2:
じょんともってぃーのいじめっこ!
Where did you find this "phrase"? To be honest I cannot pronounce it.
I'm wondering if it is a result of garbled text for character encoding problem...
Unless the author is someone who tends to make up new expression or try to use some "unique" expressions, it should beIt is from a manga called Zetman... Here's the text from the entire panel:
どこを撃ゃればば苦しまずに逝ける?
I just read it myself, and tried to find the kanji online...
The text is written vertically: ど then こ then を and then 撃ゃ on the next line etc... I was confused by the ゃ...
Orじょんともってぃーのいじめっこ!
"(A/the) kid/person being bullied by Jo(h)n and Motty (Morty?)" maybe
Or "Jo(h)n and Morty (?), the two kids/people who are being bullied"
Or
"Jo(h)n and Motty(?), you (two) are bullies!"
You aren't the only one. The only other thing I can think of would be utyarebaba. The ゃ isn't the only strange thing. Why the two ばs? I can guess the meaning, though.
Thanks undrentide! So in romaji would that be:Unless the author is someone who tends to make up new expression or try to use some "unique" expressions, it should be
どこを撃たれれば苦しまずに逝ける？（どこをうたれればくるしまずにいける？）
With where (of my body) shot I can go (= die) without suffering?
No. doko o utarereba kurushimazuni ikeru?Thanks undrentide! So in romaji would that be:
doko o gekitareba kurushi mazu yukeru ?
Not really...So does mazu mean without ?
No. doko o utarereba kurushimazuni ikeru?
(Yukeru is also valid but normally it is ikeru.)
Not really...
kurushimu : suffer
kurushimanai : not suffer + de : with
kurushimazu : not suffer (old style) + ni : with
To understand this, you first need to learn basic grammar.
No. doko o utarereba kurushimazuni ikeru?
(Yukeru is also valid but normally it is ikeru.)
Yes, I agree. People use "yuku" for 逝く to differentiate it from "iku" 行く.Really? I was hoping that this would be a case of "we keep the older sounding reading for this version of the word to avoid confusion" variety. You know, like 行く would commonly be いく, and 逝く would commonly be ゆく.
I think in this case it should be 逝った（いった）.By the way, I never really thought about this before, but would the past form of ゆく be ゆいた or ゆった? Can't say I've ever heard it. I'd guess ゆった, but I can't be certain on that.
I think in this case it should be 逝った（いった）.
When people hear ゆった, it would be most likely to be understood as 言った.
Hello again everyone
I have two lines (one from a poem) that I can't figure out exactly what the meaning is and would like to have discussed here on this message board.
1. the poetry line is something like... 我ここに光を求めん (can't remember the line so I typed it in the search engine and got another poem instead)
Now from my current knowledge, the ん can be a lazy way of saying る as in the standard 求める。 But it is unlikely that a poem would have such slang. Could it possibly be a dialect form (Kansai?).
If not, what exactly does that line mean? Does it mean, "I am searching for light here" or "I am NOT searching for light here?" (recently got into Kansai dialect and noticed how many ん sounds are used. So it could be a negative form or just, ん！)
2. わかりかねます - the わかり is from 分かる but what about the かねます part? I am aware that みかねる means to be unable to let pass unnoticed but かねる with わかる？ Anyone able to clarify?
I come up with "I'm fed up with it~~~!", "I've had enoooough!!" or "I'm sooo sick of it", there should be a lot of other ways to say it in English.What's this one?
もういやだぁぁぁ
what's this one?
もういやだぁぁぁ
thanks
Can someone translate this for me:
あぶないもオー
Thanks.
Thanks a lot Glenn!"It's dangerous, god/jeez!"