Does this work for every verb when reading 古語? Would 不認 read as 認めず then? What if doing this creates an actual word, like 不言?Mikawa Ossan said:不付is most likely read as つけず No, it's not directly read ふふ
No. You have to go on a case by case basis. Since Japanese employs kanji, they have the option to either write in grammatically correct Japanese or just by the meaning they want to convey. Also, the conventions for writing change with time, so it's really impossible to make a blanket statement for all of non-modern Japanese. If it makes an actual word, you're probably better off going with the actual word!kumo said:Just one more question:
Does this work for every verb when reading 古語? Would 不認 read as 認めず then? What if doing this creates an actual word, like 付言?
Yeah, like I said, I'm not sure about this one. I can only say my best guess. Given the context, it's hard to really think of much else without knowing the social structure of 役人 in the late Edo Period.Your suggestion about 中 certainly do make sense. But it still strikes me as odd that it is written 御役人中様 instead of 御役人様中...
Elizabeth said:On second thought, never mind about the last sentence. I found it myself. This is from a game, right ? And appears to be ヴァンとエールはこのライブメタルを用いてモデルXへと変身する。 In this case the properties of a live metal are probably completely
arbitary and have nothing to do with the real thing.
They are basically saying that "live metal" has magical or transformative powers to acquire knowledge and powers and alter the appearance of what it touches or it is used on from X to Y or whatever. I'm not familiar enough with the game to give a better explanation than that -- it's just based on my reading of the parts in question. What exactly is the point of difficulty ?kevinsano said:It's from the game Rockman ZX, but I'm still having trouble understanding those 2 sentences. It has nothing to do with whether it's about real live metal or not.
No, this is not for my class. I'm just doing it for fun (no, seriously!).Mikawa Ossan said:By the way, is this for class? Or something you're doing on your own? I was shocked (in a good way) to see your question! Keep them coming!
Elizabeth said:They are basically saying that "live metal" has magical or transformative powers to acquire knowledge and powers and alter the appearance of what it touches or it is used on from X to Y or whatever. I'm not familiar enough with the game to give a better explanation than that -- it's just based on my reading of the parts in question. What exactly is the point of difficulty ?
I think this is not something an average Japanese (who has forgotten a lot from "kanbun" study a person did during high school and/or college) can tell but will just give my two cents.kumo said:I'm having trouble translating this definition for 御の字:
「御城などへ御ノ字を不付唱ふ城の番場又城内或は中屋敷抔いふ中屋敷御役人中様など書面にも認る也。」
Here's what I don't understand:
-不付 (ふふ?) I can't find it in any dictionary.
-いふ (is it the same thing as 言う? And if so, shouldn't it be 抔といふ?)
-役人中様 Not sure what 中 is doing here.
-書面にも認る I can't make any sense out of this. With goo's definition for "shitatamaru" it would mean something like "reborn as a new, improved document". This can't be correct...
-也 (same as です?)
Here's how I would translate it:kevinsano said:さまざまな種類があり、過去の歴史や兵器のデータなどの情報が記録されている。
various information, like records of ancient times and weapon data were found.
自らの意思をもっており、ライブメタルに認められたものは、さらなる知識や力を得る事ができるという。
furthermore, it seemed that.... are able to acquire newfound knowledge
it's the 2nd sentence that gives me the most difficulty. I'm not too really sure about the first sentence.
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Thanks epigene! I wasn't 100% sure on that either. I guess I should go back and do some reviewing!epigene said:書面にも認る is read しょめんにもしたためる, meaning put down in writing.
Hope it helps!
Not to be picky, but this is the れそ entry.kumo said:Ok, so now I'm having trouble with the それ entry(浪花聞書 again):
Well, I am no expert; I'll be honest with you.「江戸で云ゑて抔と云名をいわず人をさし云処へ用」
Here's what I came up with:
"When said in Edo, used for pointing at people without saying their names(?) and also for refering to locations/places (like あそこ, I guess)."
My problem is:
云ゑて- I know ゑ is the same as え, and that 云う is the same as 言う, but I have no idea what this conjugation means..
云 - Both 云名 and 云処 are not actual words. So how exactly 云 is working here?
へ用- I assume it means "used as". Correct?
I won't dare read it (though this is more legible to me than the first one江戸で云ゑて抔と云名をいわず人をさし云処へ用
I must admit I'm not so good at Japanese grammar terms... Even though my class is all in Japanese, we only use more "simple" terms (自動詞、助詞、過去形, etc). But if you could provide a link explaining them I'd be willing to learn (I'll take a closer look at the link you gave me when I have more time).Mikawa Ossan said:However, to address your questions....um....how well do you know terms such as ワ行 and 已然形? It's much easier to talk about Japanese grammar in Japanese, after all.
It's quite fascinating and amusing that I saw this today because, just this morning, I read about "hodo" from some material I printed online. And given that your example sentence is precisely identical to one I saw, I strongly suspect that you got it from Tae Kim's guide, right? We learned about "hodo" on the same day, it seems.Fuumei said:"tabereba taberu hodo oishiku narimasu"
This usage of 'hodo' is really confusing my brain, a lot. I know what it is supposed to mean, (the more i eat it the more tasty it gets) but I can't break down the sentence structure to give me an idea of what is actually said. Any ideas how I can wrap my peanut-sized brain around this one?
J44xm said:It's quite fascinating and amusing that I saw this today because, just this morning, I read about "hodo" from some material I printed online. And given that your example sentence is precisely identical to one I saw, I strongly suspect that you got it from Tae Kim's guide, right?
Do you study Jyoruri or Chikamatsu?kumo said:I must admit I'm not so good at Japanese grammar terms... Even though my class is all in Japanese, we only use more "simple" terms (自動詞、助詞、過去形, etc). But if you could provide a link explaining them I'd be willing to learn (I'll take a closer look at the link you gave me when I have more time).
Anyway, thanks for the help again! Epigene-san too!!
The top one means "How do I open it?" (If you do it how, will it open ?)Fuumei said:"Dou suru to aku n desu ka" (aku = open/vacant)
"Botan wo osu to akimasu"
I'm studying the "to" particle at the moment, and the top portion (dou suru to) is confusing me. I know 'to' means "when A happens, B takes place" So how would I translate these two correctly?
I see this as: What do I do when it is open/vacant? -> When you press this button, it opens.
I know it's not right, can anyone shed some light on it? Just a tiny bit?
She's asking what kind of pictures you draw. People or scenary ?luciferous said:hi everyone, I have been learning japanese for exactly one month today and I thought I know I will try and get a japanese penfriend, it will help speed my learning along, her english is not fantastic so we write our emails half in english half in japanese, its slow going but its rewarding, up util this morning when she sent me this question.
Anata wa donoyouna e wo kakimasuka? Ningen?Kesiki?
the bold words are the ones I am having trouble with, normally i would just sit and puzzle it out but i am going away for a few daysand would like to reply to her as quickly as possible,
So any help would beapreciated, thanks in advance
Shane
iroirona said:外国語を学ぶことは初めて日本語を勉強するまでどんなに面白いか知らなかった.
1.日本語の話しは、比較的易しいんですが読み書きは難しい。
2.日本語を話すのは比較的易しいんですが読んで書くのは難しい。
Sentence 1 uses the ~masu verb stem which behaves as a regular noun. Sentence 2 uses the nominalized verb which behaves as a noun as well. Are both forms applicable without any nuances in the translations?
1.マイケルに会い、ボブのことを尋ねた。
2.マイケルに会ってボブのことを尋ねた。