I have to admit my sentiment on this point is biased as I have been in the English-speaking country for many years. The economic and political powers in the world change. I am Japanese but I tend to prefer speaking English as I feel it has a better use internationally (English is considered an international language in business) and will get me where I would want to be or become in the future inside or outside Japan. If I decide to start a family, I am thinking about making English as the preferred household language.
I am not a nationalist and don't subscribe to the virtue of the cultural identity; so, I am not listening to the argument a Japanese has to stick with Japanese.
If this is directed at anyone who doesn't already know English and is looking around for a good second or third language that would help them get ahead in international business, then no I would not recommend that person learn Japanese. There has never been a time in history when it has been given the position of world's lingua franca.I have to admit my sentiment on this point is biased as I have been in the English-speaking country for many years. The economic and political powers in the world change. I am Japanese but I tend to prefer speaking English as I feel it has a better use internationally (English is considered an international language in business) and will get me where I would want to be or become in the future inside or outside Japan. If I decide to start a family, I am thinking about making English as the preferred household language.
I am not a nationalist and don't subscribe to the virtue of the cultural identity; so, I am not listening to the argument a Japanese has to stick with Japanese.
That is my thought as well. If (big if, that is) I am going to have a kid in the future, I want to make sure the kid will speak the language(s) which is widely used in the business. Also, he/she is not be tethered to Japan and will be able to take on an international opportunity.If this is directed at anyone who doesn't already know English and is looking around for a good second or third language that would help them get ahead in international business, then no I would not recommend that person learn Japanese. There has never been a time in history when it has been given the position of world's lingua franca.
Setting up English as a household language as a way of raising bilingual (if not completely fluent) kids is also a great idea. Know any other Japanese person not having been raised in an English environment that applies to ?
They are going to learn both, obviously, simply by living in the country. Most of the kids that live around me are from Spanish only homes but by 6 or 7 their English is nearly perfect cause they hear it from other kids, TV, school and basically every time they step foot out of their apartments.If you are thinking of raising children in Japan you would be doing them a major disservice by not raising them to be able to understand and speak Japanese. You may be able to get around by speaking mostly English since you're in Tokyo and I suppose a lot of people speak English there, but you surely do resort to the use of Japanese when you need to.
Your children should be able to speak the language of the people around them. If you're not planning for them to live in Japan, there is no need to teach them Japanese, but otherwise, it's entirely possible to raise bilingual children and it would be a missed opportunity to not do so.
And being bilingual would open up numerous career opportunities far outside of the narrow world of international commerce :I want to make sure the kid will speak the language(s) which is widely used in the business. Also, he/she is not be tethered to Japan and will be able to take on an international opportunity.
They have to attend Japanese schools but there's no law Japanese has to be the primary family language. Like I said with my example knowing numerous home Spanish-only neighbor kids, with normal and routine exposure they'll pick it up with no problem from living in the country regardless.I agree with the recent posters, Jersey Boy. Living in Japan and being Japanese (as you are and as your future kids will be) makes no sense if you don't teach them Japanese. Besides, I believe the law says they have to attend Japanse school anyway.
That's precisely his consideration. Also, preferred/primary home language doesn't have to deny a role for Japanese entirely.Many of us have kids learning both languages. Think about it. Even if the stupid government doesn't believe it's possible, it is, and not just in Japan. Why wouldn't you empower your kids to have both languages under their belt and be better off than a monolingual businessman?
I have to admit my sentiment on this point is biased as I have been in the English-speaking country for many years. The economic and political powers in the world change. I am Japanese but I tend to prefer speaking English as I feel it has a better use internationally (English is considered an international language in business) and will get me where I would want to be or become in the future inside or outside Japan. If I decide to start a family, I am thinking about making English as the preferred household language.
I am not a nationalist and don't subscribe to the virtue of the cultural identity; so, I am not listening to the argument a Japanese has to stick with Japanese.
Elizabeth,They have to attend Japanese schools but there's no law Japanese has to be the primary family language. Like I said with my example knowing numerous home Spanish-only neighbor kids, with normal and routine exposure they'll pick it up with no problem from living in the country regardless.
Yes, depends on your goals. Just how far are those people going to get by speaking only Spanish? Their geographical radius is severely limited, for one. Spanish, I believe, is yet to be declared an official second language in the USA, so job prospects are not as good as if they knew fluent English. But, if they don't care about job prospects...Depends on your goals as to what language you place priority in. There is nothing wrong with English being the "language used at home" there are , for example, plenty of house holds here in the US where only Spanish is spoken.
Many here in the US would argue that you should learn the language of the country you live in and I tend to agree, but its not my place to say so.
Do what you think is best for your family.
Maybe you don't understand. If you have been following JerseyBoy's posts, he has returned to Japan some time ago and is now going through a kind of culture shock for which he is throwing out this and other questions to gage others' opinions in order to enable himself to become more acclimated to Japan. He does intend on staying in Japan though.Glenski said:Elizabeth,
Maybe you don't understand me.
Jersey Boy is Japanese. He has lived in the USA for a while and is now contemplating returning to Japan.
Thanks for the summary. I tend NOT to follow people's personal lives on forums, and I had assumed he was not yet here. My mistake.Maybe you don't understand. If you have been following JerseyBoy's posts, he has returned to Japan some time ago and is now going through a kind of culture shock for which he is throwing out this and other questions to gage others' opinions in order to enable himself to become more acclimated to Japan. He does intend on staying in Japan though.
If you mean just raise him at home with English exposure only at home, then perhaps yes. It has been the case for the last 4 years inmy kid's sake, and we are not alone. Others have done what we do. There, of course, is more to do to supplement home language exposure (like international schools if you can afford them, or send them to native English speaking countries for study, etc.).JersyBoy, if you want to raise your family in an English speaking environment in Japan, then by all means do it as that is probably the ONLY way they are going to become fluent in the English language in Japan.
Me, too, but there are also those families who DON'T use both languages at home. As an example, I taught one kid whose father was American, and he spoke English as badly as any other of his classmates in high school, simply because his home life did not include English.Your children will learn Japanese easily enough in school and through their friends and become fluent in English at home with the help of you and your wife. I have known a few western families whose primary language was English at home and the children learned Japanese fluently at school and such. In the long run they were at near native language level by the time they were teenagers.
I am not listening to the argument a Japanese has to stick with Japanese.
"Tethered to Japan" seems like manacles, when being bilingual is more of a freedom. I really can't understand how Jersey Boy thinks that his future kid should avoid learning Japanese while being raised in Japan! Please help me here, JB.If (big if, that is) I am going to have a kid in the future, I want to make sure the kid will speak the language(s) which is widely used in the business. Also, he/she is not be tethered to Japan and will be able to take on an international opportunity.
Of all the intelligent things in this thread, I wanted to agree with this one most.I would say yes. Not only do you live in Japan, it is also a way to keep the language alive. If others felt the same way the number of languages in the world would decrease as everyone would learn only the dominant languages such as English, Spanish and Mandarin. The others would fall into disuse and become dead languages, only studied by lingustic scholars. It would become a cultural loss to the world. This is already happening in some countries where English is rapidly becoming ever more dominant. I have heard people in Sweden and The Netherlands mention that their own language is being slowly replaced by English. Manx did lose out, but is now being revived on the Isle of Man because some poeple feel that to lose the language is to lose the Islands heritage, culture and identity.
I think I have omitted a little more info. Learning Japanese is a given when one is living in Japan. The original thread was intended for the priority on English over Japanese while this hypothetical kid attains a good command of Japanese. I make good money in Japan because I am very competent working in the bilingual setting. It is always good to have an exit option to other English-speaking countries when you need to emigrate to other countries from Japan in the future. This option will be severly limited without a good command of the languauge.I really can't understand how Jersey Boy thinks that his future kid should avoid learning Japanese while being raised in Japan! Please help me here, JB.
That was my own opinion (my rational practical side speaking). In this thread, I just asked if it is worth learning Japanese now. When I say "priority," I mean I put more priority on English over Japanese. In a sense, I use Japanese as a simple business tool to make good living (nothing more, nothing less), while I enjoy literature, music, and all the rest in English (in addition to using it for business and daily life all the time).Thank you Jersey Boy.
So, what was (is) your original point then? Learning Japanese is a given, yet the title of your thread is contradictory to that. Help again to define this "priority".