Host Club Advice

Dallas321

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Hi guys, I have some questions about host bars in Japan. I use to work at one in another Asian country doing the same thing until I found out they never did a proper work visa and because of that what I was doing was technically illegal. So I went back home to Canada to take a break and catch up with family. I have recently found out that it is legal in Japan and Singapore. I love to travel and party, this type of job let's me do that and I'm good at it.

So my questions are can I get a legitimate work visa?
Do host clubs in Japan even want a foreigner who is only a beginner in Japanese?
And if so what cities would I be looking at?

I really love Japanese culture and history so I'm trying to find out if it's even possible before I take a offer in Singapore. Any information would be great and appreciated.

Thanks
 
I was once invited to go with a few people from my internship company, and there was a Romanian woman that did not speak Japanese. So, I am sure that there is a foreign host niche, but Japanese ability would improve your chances highly. You are there to entertain a woman (or man, whatever it is you do, no judgements) by having a nice conversation. If he/she wants to practise English, there are many cheaper methods available. The visa thing will also be an obstacle, as I think not many bars will sponsor a visa like that, if they do it at all.
 
My advice: don't do it. Avoid visa problems and being exploited.
 
Have you done any other research into this?

I'm not terribly familiar with the world of hosting, or whether it's different in other countries, but there was a documentary about this a while back that was rather interesting... this one I think:

From what I can tell, the real money in hosting comes from accruing a regular clientele and fostering the illusion of an emotional relationship with them, a sort of empty promise that amounts to a hollow reflection of actual human connection.

Apparently a lot of the clients at host clubs are hostesses or sex workers themselves, looking for a place to unwind without judgment and get some of that feeling they sell to their own clients. This creates a vicious cycle where the girls must stay in the industry to be able to afford their habits. All the while, it seems like the business themselves are the only ones making any real profit from all this. On a personal note, I find all this rather demented, but fascinating at the same time. If anything it's a testament to the need for connection. There are all kinds of different people out there, google "financial dominatrix" for something really crazy.

For your situation, I can't imagine a host club that would sponsor a visa, and most club owners probably don't even know how to go about doing it because it's not a routine process for them. This hardly qualifies as legitimate work, and I'm guessing the majority of a host's income is actually under the table. The type of people that run these clubs are the same no matter where you go; you will be exploited. It seems like it's not altogether unheard of (there's quite a lot of comments here, but it IS the internet so who knows what is true: I am addicted to Host Clubs. : japan but foreign hosts are a very small minority who probably already have their visas sorted out... perhaps kept on as either a novelty or for the small minority of non-Japanese clients. Reread my first paragraph, and then ask yourself how much demand you could generate from clients if you don't share a common language. Good looks and body language can only get you so far. Now put yourself in the shoes of a club owner, who somehow gets contacted by some kid who doesn't speak the language but wants to come work in the club. His resume includes working illegally (unknowingly) in some other asian country. Would you sponsor his visa?

If you can legitimately work in Singapore, you would probably have better luck there, as English is a common language there and your language skills wouldn't put you at such a disadvantage. Best of luck, and perhaps come back and let us know how things go for you. We often get these fly-by questions and rarely do we ever learn what becomes of people.
 
Do you have a university education? If not forget about getting a work visa of any kind in Japan.
 
I'd be willing to bet that the kind of connection men want to make with hostesses requires FAR less common language than the connection women want to make with hosts...
 
So my questions are can I get a legitimate work visa?
Do host clubs in Japan even want a foreigner who is only a beginner in Japanese?
And if so what cities would I be looking at?
1) Technically yes, all the thousands of Filipino hostesses are coming in on "entertainer visas." But practically speaking no. You'd need to find a sponsor and it seems unlikely the demand is such it can't be satisfied by people who are already in the country legally.
2) I don't think this would be a barrier. I'm sure there are plenty of customers who'd want such a host. Certainly this situation is common for hostesses who are shipped in from SE Asia, Eastern Europe, etc. There are many foreign hostesses with limited Japanese.
3) You'd need to find a sponsoring company so the city wouldn't really matter. Or come in the country on some other pretense and do this work illegally.

In summary, I think your chances are better in Singapore.
 
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