help me try to convince a anti jap

[Mashu]

Originally posted by Gaki
Wait a minute...how can this person say China is primitive...

Alot of the things in the world WERE INVENTED BY THE CHINESE !

Time lags between Chinese inventions and discoveries and their adoption or recognition in the West

Read that !

If the person still thinks we are a primitive race, then he's ignorant...

I don't believe China is a primitive country but I think it is fairly unanimous that China has had better times then the present. During the same time of China's greatest achievements, the Islamic Empire in the Middle East was also one of the strongest empires in the World. Baghdad was a centre of great intellectual development. Now look at Baghdad in current times; it's a war torn city that is on the brink of rebellion and anarchy. I'm not saying that Muslem or Iraqis are primitive either but they have also had better times in history. My point is that you can't really use history as a fact for a countries current state of development.

 

[Gaki]

Originally posted by Mashu
I don't believe China is a primitive country but I think it is fairly unanimous that China has had better times then the present. During the same time of China's greatest achievements, the Islamic Empire in the Middle East was also one of the strongest empires in the World. Baghdad was a centre of great intellectual development. Now look at Baghdad in current times; it's a war torn city that is on the brink of rebellion and anarchy. I'm not saying that Muslem or Iraqis are primitive either but they have also had better times in history. My point is that you can't really use history as a fact for a countries current state of development.

Yeah i agree that China has seen better times in history, but after the past 100 years of change in the country it's pretty much expected the country will be in a state of development.
But it doesnt mean that just because the country is developing again, that we've stopped making techonological advances.
China's space program is proof enough that we arent "Primitive", besides China off the top of my head i can only think of Russia and USA that have space programs.

 

[Grandpa Frank]

Us old timers !!!

I can see where your grandfather is coming from, being an older person also. When I grew up the TV was full of movies about the "dirty japs" and the "rotton" Nazies. If I wasn't being bombarded with movie and TV propaganda, I was being told "jazzed up" war stories by "half-in-the-bag" vets about the "evil" Japs or Jerries and the evil they did. Then if you watch todays news, you usually see all the bad things about other countries. It pretty hard not to let all that brainwashing get to you !
I went to Japan with all these ideas in my head and saw first hand what things and people were really like, and learned what a closed mind I and other Americans had. I even checked into giving up my American citizenship to become a Japanese citizen; I was so impressed.
And another thing when it comes to us old people; we get off on winding you youn-uns up. I say things to my very young friends that I don't believe, but by winding them up I get them to think about something besides Nintendo or the latest music for a bit.
Anyway, take what others say to you with a grain of salt and check things out for yourself.

Frank

 

[kirei_na_me]

Yay Frank! Very well said...

You make a lot of sense when you're not talking about Quasimodo...