Help for a beginner

Robster

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This is really a question about language as such, but a question about what I should actually learn. I have looked on the net for lessons in Japanese, as my school doesn't do them (I am only 14). I have had no luck and have resigned to basically teaching myself, not ideal but I have little choice. My plan was to start by learning the Hiragana and the Katakana. After that I'm not sure, should I learn some basic phrases or start on the up hill climb with Kanji (something I'm not looking forward too:p).
So any help at all would be great, what would you recommend?
 
Well, I'm teaching myself too, on the net as you planned. I have some links to give you that might be useful.
As for the kana and kanji's. Kanji's are used almost in every sentence in japanese so I bet you will end up wanting to learn them. But leave kanji for later. Now you should start with some basic words, Japanese Grammar, Particles, Verb conjugations.

There are some nice videos in the net, search for "let's learn japanese". Also try getting the rosetta stone, its a nice tool for beginners and also advanced students. Search for e-books, if you want some links just PM me and I'll send you my email so you can add me to msn. (At least you can find it on my profile or something like that).

Anyway, have fun learning japanese :D
 
Thanks 😌
the stuff sounds really good, I have sent the pm
 
The first things we learned in our Japanese class were simple phrases and whatnot on how to introduce yourself. I think for a few days you should just learn how to pronounce some words using Romanji and then work your way up to Hiragana and Katakana.

Learning simple phrases such as: Ohayoo gozaimasu! (good morning [polite]) and Watashi wa America-jin desu. (I am American.) Is where you want to start. Learn some nouns for words such as cat (neko), dog (inu), etc. etc.
Once you feel you got a few words down, and can say some short phrases, start learning Hiragana. Now practice those words or phrases by writing them out in Hiragana (even ones that are suppose to be written in Katakana at first). After you feel you got somewhat a handle on Hiragana (you don't have to remember them all, but 80% would be good, the rest will be better remembered when you start using them) start learning Katakana. Learn how to write your name in Japanese by using Katakana. Remember Katakana is only used for foreign words or words you want to emphasize, well...there is special cases but don't worry about that now.

Get your Hiragana down to where you feel semi-comfortable writing in it. Practice reading simple sentences, if you can find a children's book in Japanese that would be great.

Once you feel like you are at a level that you can at least introduce yourself in Japanese, not a detailed introduction, but maybe your name and where you are from would be sufficient along with some basic greetings and whatnot and can write pretty well in Hiragana and Katakana you should start learning some basic Kanji. Again with Kanji just try learning some easy ones such as big 大, what 何, food 食べもの, etc. If you want to be serious about it, try to memorize 2 kanji a day. Remember you need to know what it symbolizes (word) and also the sounds it will make when you read it. It is daunting but you will eventually want to know 2000 Kanji or as close to it as you can get.
Good Luck to you, the younger you are the easier it is to learn a language, and if you plan on going to University more than likely they will offer a Japanese Language class (日本語のクラス) and to have some previous knowledge will be very beneficial.

Picking up a dictionary along with a Kanji Dictionary will be extremely helpful. Remember when you learn your Kanji to follow stroke order, it is important! Here is a online dictionary that seems quite accurate. Type WWJDIC into a google search engine. (I would link the site but I don't have enough posts to do so)

Hope this helps, and have fun!
 
I may have to do that, I seemed to have reached a sort of mentle block after learning 30 Hiragana, which can't be good, does anyone have any tips that will help me learn the rest ?
 
What I did was everynight write for example from "a" to "ta" then the other day learn another 5 and at night write from "a" to "ta" + those 5 I learnt.

I tried to learn them in order, at the beginning when I needed to write a hiragana character I had to remember the order. So I thought, ok, vowel, k+vowel, s+vowel. But that eventually wasn't needed anymore with some days of practice. Now I just write them, maybe I don't remember one or two, but I always remember it with a few minutes of thinking.

Before sleeping is the best time to learn things, you go to bed thinking about that and your mind remembers it easily.

And always try to write from the beginning, that way you'll re-study the ones you've already learnt. Even if you think you already got them.
 
That's what I have been doing, strangly though I can't remember anymore than ho, which is rather annoying
I will go over them again before I go to bed today and see if it helps.
Thanks for the help 👍
 
Well, I had the same exact problem, the scary part is we had 2 weeks to learn Hirigana.
My best advice would be to start using it, try writing in it even if you have to have a chart in front of you. On top of this, make flash cards or something of the sort and practice that right before bed. Also if you have a friend that wants to learn with you, learning with someone is great. A good alternative to that is to have an interactive game that teaches them to you. Again I would hyperlink one right here, but I can't; so go to Google and type Knuckles in China Land. This is a type of "RPG" where you are Knuckles (Yeah, the one from Sonic) and instead of fighting monsters you fight "cards" which you can choose either to be Hiragana, Katakana, or Kanji. This might be a fun way to learn the alphabet.
Also remembering the Hirigana as odd things sometimes helps. For example na (な)I kinda remembered because in some anime they make a funny face where they pull their eye and stick out there tongue and say, naah! (don't know if I described the visual all that well) For some reason na kinda looks like that for me...
Don't expect to learn the whole alphabet in just a few days, it will eventually come if you keep working at it.

And remember, Knuckles in China Land. :D
 
The mnunomic I learnt for な was nahwal
The whale who wants to be a narwal is chosing between a sword and stick for his horn, I will look out the knuckles game, it could be fun
 
Its funny how it is knuckles in china land and its a japanese learning game :P
Anyway I'll try that one too :D
 
Yeah I know it is odd, that it is called Knuckles in China Land, but it is based off of a older game that has the same name, lol. But it is definitely Japanese...so no worries.
 
One problem with the China land game is that you cannont set it to just Hiragana it's Hiragana or Katakana
 
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