Ma Cherie
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- 24 Mar 2004
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Yes I know. I'm still trying to figure out why Maciamo would even start a thread like that.
This is all so awful ;_;
Like I said i don't know how to disable my account, but moderators by all means go ahead and put me out of my misery. So long as I'm still able to post the temptation to vent how majorly pissed off I am is just irresistable....
Well, I made a copy of the thread because I figured it would get pulled down. For those who didn't see it, basically the OP started it by stating how ignorant Japanese people are because they don't know much about European history (errors in knowledge about Napoleon, Alexander the Great and the vikings were given as examples).
I can't say about what other people's deleted posts said, but my response was, in a perfectly reasonable manner, to point out that history in Japan is taught from an East asian perspective and therefore it was unfair to conclude that Japanese were ignorant just because they didn't know the basics of European history.
I then pointed out that European students don't learn much about topics like (for example) Confuscius, the Tang Dynasty and Hideyoshi Toyotomi. Knowledge about them would be considered a part of fundamental history to Japanese students, yet it would be highly unlikely that many European students would know anything about them. But from that fact you could not infer that Europeans were ignorant, as the OP attempted to do in regards the Japanese.
That post, which I put some thought into and even went to the trouble of looking up some facts in a Japanese history textbook to support, was summarily deleted by the OP for no apparent reason other than it didn't make Japanese people look stupid, which is apparently the only type of post that he considers appropriate.
The fact that my post wasn't treated with any respect made me upset. I don't mind being disagreed with or having people argue with me, but to have it just wiped off the face of the earth like that made my blood boil. And then when I (not unreasonably) demand an apology, they guy adds insult to injury by sending me an automated PM notifying me that I have been given an infraction.
I don't know how this forum manages to stay afloat with a person like that running things. Never mind the fact that he treats posters like garbage, this is supposed to be a forum for people interested in Japan, it shouldn't be run by someone who is obviously bigoted against the Japanese. And I don't use that term lightly, I've made many posts on here that have been highly critical of Japan. But the tone of that thread and the draconian rules enforced to stifle anything other than virulent anti-Japanese views cannot lead one to any conclusion but that the person running it is a bigot. To give an example of the type of thing he posted:
MACIAMO wrote: "On a side note : don't get me wrong, I am fairly tolerant toward their ignorance (amazed, speechless, but tolerant). I make fun of it, but they are forgiven because of their horrible education system."
Senseiman, you are the reason I joined Jref in the first place. I think I said this once in an earlier post, but it was your thread about the worst vacation spots in Japan, and your hilarious examples that made me interested in this place.
It would be a shame to see you leave, although I understand your position perfectly.
I am not threatening leaving, by the way. I am merely worried that I will be banned at some future point in time for being critical of Maciamo in my last post on this thread, and barring that some time in the future just for stating my opinion or responding to a post in a way that upsets Maciamo or some other staff member.
Ah, thanks for the correction. I think you're right about that.As I recall,you worded it " with impunity ".
If I may add another word in here, please. From the bottom of my heart, and with all faith and hope and more than anything else, love, I'd like to ask that we let things settle a bit now.
That doesn't exist on message boards. If it did we'd have to let trolls hang around and bash people because it's their "opinion".don't want there to be no freedom of speach
The only power we have is to not respond to him and these abuses of authority would have died out several months or even years ago.Don't leave. Trust me...the person in question has made me feel like leaving before also.
I only stay because there must be someone here to act as a voice of reason...and to help keep him in check...otherwise what would the forum become?
Goodness, have things become so bad here that the members who've been here for quite some time feel they have to leave?
OK could be wrong but thats kinda like a silent apology senseiman ^_^
See you don't have to leave