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Dir en grey


Pshaw! In general Dir en grey are GODS :3


o-o; Although I've been listening to them since La:sadies...Kisaki is like...ew to me for some reason >o;
 
Placebo said:
Oh trust me with all the old VK pics and man on man pics the fangirls have posted of DEG has already been ruined. I don't know what is the obsession I mean the majority of the little fangirls were not even born doring their VK days.
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I was born in 1989 thank you.
And they were Visual Kei and they did jump each other, us posting pics of them isn't the root of the 'evil' you speak of. And hey, the USA could use some shock therapy in the way of androgyny and sexual freedom. And no one made Diru Visual Kei and nobody forced them to jump each other, they did all that of their own free will. So stop bagging on the fans.
Also, I don't think Visual Kei or Fanservice has "ruined" the band, Dir en grey's core always has been and always will be the same because their core is their message and their message hasn't changed. Sure, the box and all the wrappings has changed but what's important has stayed the same. So the fact that they no longer wear white face paints and skirts (*tear*tear*) isn't a draw back and the fact that they once did wear them isn't either. Even without Fanservice and Visual Kei you would still get lotsa Deg haters this side of the Pacific Ocean the only difference is they now have the word, "f****t" added to their ammo which, by the way, is not even an insult. I fail to see how someone's sexuality effects the quality of their music.

P.S. I will agree, though, that many "fans" fixate on the past and that is a tiny bit annoying. But simply posting old pics isn't what's going to ruin them, it's this attitude some fans have and all their b****ing and moaning about Diru making it here and the complaining about their fame saying that they're selling out or whatever, and just being elitist in general. THAT, that right there, is what's going to drag them down not their past.
 
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You do not get me sorry I should have explained myself better I made the rant after peaking in the FV DEG gallery. I did not mean the pics in general is what is bringing them down but the fans that are latching on to their VK past. I don't think this is what the band wants I think they want you to either grow with them or move on. And when I said the fans were not born what I should have said is they were still pissing in their diapers when DEG was VK. The funny thing is the are like "oh I miss their vk days" so not only are they latching on to the past but they are holding on to something they were never apart of. Would be like me constantly talking about the 60's and dressed up in 60's garments even though I was born in 87.
 
All the posting of the VK pics in the FVT official forum IS hurting the band. Alot of the other fans on the forum of the other bands already have a bad impression of us. I mean seriously it was okay at first. But now you can't have a decent discussion without some idiot fangirl coming in and going off topic on some incredibly stupid stuff.

And also all the old VK pics is killing me. Especially since it is hurting them. You have alot of the Korn fans who are like oh I think I like this music, and then they see some old VK era fanservice pic and it scares them away.

I love this band but I hate the fans.
 
Nana007 said:
I love this band but I hate the fans.
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LOL. That's funny but I also feel the same way about certain fans.

I also think alot of people in the states don't handle VK well and do get turned off by it. VK is an acquired taste in my opinion. And I do prefer the current Diru. Maybe it's because I started listening to them just recently.

I find that most bands as time goes on end up ditching their VK look and go into more toned down outfits. I guess that's part of them maturing as a band.
 
Me personally while I do sometimes admire and like the VK look. I am not fixated on the VK look cause I wasn't a fan when they were VK. And to be honest the VK look scared me away. Older pre-Vulgar fans who fixate on it are sometimes annoying but its the I have only been a fan for 3months and I love Dir en grey, but I don't like the new sound or the new look they need to go back to VK fans that kill me.
 
I am not a fan of their VK look the only two that pulled it off was toshiya and shinya the rest of them look like tranny zombies. I like their manly look although it wouldnt kill Kyo to shave his pits someone needs to tell him to keep his arms down and I loved Die with eyeliner but what ever he still hot without.
 
dont bash me...but remember how it was said that other countries r sometimes ignorant to accept jrock because of the language barrier...no matter what language it is sung|played in...feelings|emotions|stories r passed along that way....music is just music....i think some fans just need to understand vk or no vk....it doesnt effect their music....
 
boobiebutt said:
vk or no vk....it doesnt effect their music....
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You said it.

Unfortunately there will always be some closed-minded people who get put off the music if they see a VK picture, though.... -_- So 'going non-VK' is a better marketing strategy in the US for now (I'm not saying that's the reason Diru chose it; I'm just making another point ^^). I guess what Placebo was trying to say is that the fangirls who constantly put around a VK image aren't helping with that.

Besides, it's never any good clinging onto the past. Would fans really rather Diru were doing something they don't want, trying to be something they are not? Of course not. It's their music and their choice of visual style - I say, just let them get on with it.
 
I'll agree most Dir en grey fangirls suck major monkey butt. And I'll agree that plastering Visual Kei pictures on that forum is not a good idea. I was just saying that it isn't the actual Visual Kei that would bring them down but the stupid fans.
 
I don't just love their Image..Dir en Grey Rox in general <3 Their music is amazing..I wish I could go to their concert..this guy I'm about to go out w/ says he would pay for us to get tickets..lmao
 
Is this Dir en Grey really all that good id like to check em out whats on of their best songs?
 
Um... I'm not sure if the Mushi live performance is a good thing to start off with when someone asks what's their best stuff ... I mean, Kyo crying and hitting himself ... that's quick to turn someone off of Diru before they even get a chance to hear their music. (Though I agree it's one of their best performances)

I'd say a good thing to start off with, since you're asking kioshi, would be to get the Withering to Death album. It's pretty awesome ... and good for people who haven't heard Dir en grey before.
 
Alright thanks ill look into that album. Someone is crying and hitting themself?
 
Kisou and Vulgar are also good albums IMO - although of course, everyone has their different likes! ^^ What sort of music do you generally like?

Songs from Dir en grey that I think are good to check out are:
Machiavellism
Jealous
Dead Tree
Fukai
Cage
Gyakujou Tannou Keroido Milk
Drain Away
The Final

If you like gentler music: Ain't afraid to die.
If you like heavy music: Pink Killer.

 
I like any music. I just heard alot about these dir en grey
 
my favorite songs by them are aint afraid to die, saku, and cage, but thats just me, and I love all of there songs, just thoes are my fave ^^ and also, i need some new pics... will someone please post some?? thanks much!!
 
some other obvious good ones are Obscure, Child Prey, Saku, Jesus Christ RnR. I just found that link and ppl probably wanted it..lmao
 
Well its really hard to say what Dir en grey's best songs is cause every fan has different tastes, and Dir en grey has songs that cross so many Genres. But here are my recomendations.

Saku
Machievellism
The Final
Obscure
Red[em]
Ain't Afraid to Die
Cage
[KR]Cube
Kasumi
 
I really like all their songs from Withering To Death. Other songs I like that other people didn't list are:

Umbrella
Audience Killer Loop
Mr. Newsman
Ain't Afraid to Die <=== Had to repeat it because it's my fave Diru song.

All the other songs listed are also very very good!
 
I recommended Withering to Death not only b/c it's a strong album, but it's also easily available in the US now.

Obscure is good for a "hard" Diru

maybe the final for "gentle" Diru

Enjoy

and feel free to pm for some samples Kioshi
 
"All the posting of the VK pics in the FVT official forum IS hurting the band."

What's the FVT official forum??? What's this you're talking about?? ((I'd like to understand a little bit more of what yu were talikng))

Anyway... No that anyone cares^^UU, but personally, I've loved them in every of their ways, cause I simple think they're MORE than great musician. If anyone would ask me to recommend a good deg song, I would start with the oldies and go up till the newst ones cause I simply love all of their music... Of course I understand that some people may prefer one above the other but...
anyway I was born in 1987 too, and I the first time I listen to dir en grey was around 2000 thanks to an anime magazine cd with some songs and pvs ((yokan, krcube, myaku, berry, hydra, jealous, taiyou no ao, zan and wake)) and from then on, I just fell in love and never stopped!! Of course, I must admit I kind of rather their vk period a little more, just a little! jajja, but that's cause, well, it was then when I fell for they! understand??
aah... hey, don't say things like "they look like trany zoombies"! that's mean! jaja To me they were just as beautiful as they're now!! Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful!! jajaj yeahh, i'm a big big baka!

changing subject!


that's sooo truth!! yes,yes!
what reminds me something that usually makes me angryy!! When I say I like "japanese bands" people always ask me if I speak japanese and when I say "no" they inmediatly ask "then how can you listen to that music you don't know what they are saying??" AArrggh, it makes me so angry, SPECIALLY because most people who say that to me are big fans of english/american bands when they can't speak a single word in english ((no that I speak much but... )) anyway... that just make me angry... no that has anything to do in here... but anyway... like I said before no that no one cares... just speaking my mind loud...
 
i really do like the video for obscure..
 
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