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Dir en grey

uhhmm...dunno if this is a bad time to bring this up but..was wondering if anyone has seen the recent american interview on Dir en grey? They were interviewing Shinya and Kaoru but I only managed to watch 15 sec of it ...just wondering if anyone's seen the full version ^^;;

BTW! the interview clip was called "Dir En Grey Beats Arctic Monkeys Buzz" or something along those lines...who the hell are the arctic monkeys? o__o
 
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Wow... that was really well said!!! I'm so glad you said that... cos I couldn't have. You put my thoughts into words!

I didn't even know about Dir en grey's existence until like, THIS February. Long story short, someone introduced me to Miyavi and somehow along the jrock lines a classmate introduced me to Deg and told me about this concert. I was interested, so me, my sister, and my friend decided to check them out and go see their concert, since it was close by and all.

But I felt really put off by all the negative energy I seemed to be getting from long-time die-hard fans, yeah, totally the "you're not even a fan, why are you going to the concert?" thing. Made it sound like I and my sis and friend weren't worthy, like we were 'stealing' tickets from those who 'deserved' to go.

Aha... it was my first concert and I was really excited... and I actually DID do some research about them and their music between ticket and concert time. And I did walk away a fan. I feel so lucky to have found them considering I had never heard of jrock before this year in my life.

I'm not trying to jump on the bandwagon, dammit. Just cos I haven't liked them since forever doesn't mean I can't start now, right?

I'm sorry for those who couldn't go... but considering the overwhelmingly positive response from the crowd there (and me ) I'm sure Dir en grey'll be back in no time.

Can anyone tell this is my first post? I'm a newbie... so please don't be mean... (I found J-forum through miyavi thread, ha)

'Right... enough of my blabbers...
 
Hello, Physcocynic, and welcome! Don't worry, the majority of people on this forum are well-mannered and welcoming, and they won't chase you away! Besides, it's nice to know when people become interested in something outside of the norm. Very open-minded.



Wow. What's going on with the forums? It appears that a volcano has just been building up pressure, until suddenly it errupts! That is how I see the current state. Meh. I know there is always an occasional argument on any forum, but some things are just getting ridiculous. And I agree, pinkkillerkisou said it very well.


I know I'm a new member, but a few months before I joined jref I was kind of following certain threads, and things seemed a lot better then. Things have really changed. ☝
 
Wow - I sure have a lot of posts to catch up on. ☝ *reads*...

Champloo: I like your lyrics! I wish I could put some guitar line to it, but really it needs piano, I think. I can write guitar lines for songs, but then when I try to make lyrics for it, they come out crap and cheesy. >_< Or, I can make lyrics, but then I have no inspiration for the music itself.

Tetsuya Master: That sucks about your cousin! Although I agree that it's good to try out new bands, I thought (maybe I'm remembering your post from another thread) that he didn't like Dir en grey all that much even following the concert, which is a shame. T_T

SaKeVi: I want to go to a G.I.S.M. concert! ☝ That's some crazy ****... (although... probably not very good for the health, right?!)

Champloo: Please put on a banana suit and sing the peanut butter and jelly song! I want to see it!

Dir en grey official photos: the Clever Sleazoid photos are the last official photos I have seen. I don't make a big effort to keep up to date, but I visit Batsu forum regularly and normally, new photos are posted there really quickly, and I haven't seen any.

Ijiwaru: The Arctic Monkeys are a band that are big in the UK!! ^^

Psychocynic: Welcome, and I'm so glad you become to love Dir en grey!

Right. About this whole censorship argument thing. My opinion is that a Dir en grey concert isn't suitable for an 8-year-old, not because of the lyrics or anything particular that might be going on (that's another subject for debate) but simply out of safety; there are big, excited crowds and an 8-year-old is a small person. They run the risk of getting more seriously hurt than you or I in the same situation. It's a question of being able to withstand OK the physical conditions of the concert.

As for the 'moral' aspect, actually I'm undecided on that, most particularly, as the lyrics aren't easily understandable, IMO. I think an 8-year-old isn't going to hear that Kyo is singing "one day I will f**k your parents", and suchlike; hell, it takes me a while to figure out what he is singing! Also, such as the blood, chest scratching etc., it would be more of a concern to me that a child might be frightened by that, rather than imitating of it. Kids have a lot more sense than we give them credit for. Also similarly with the crotch rubbing; sometimes, things don't have the same significance with children as with us; children experience things differently. (I can remember things from childhood that I see totally differently now, and I'm sure you all can, too.)

To subject a child to something that is dangerous to them physically and/or frightening or emotionally disturbing to them is a form of abuse. To me, I see that Dir en grey or similar concerts are totally physically unsuitable for a child the age of 8 (also a child's ears are more sensitive to volume). Whether they are emotionally disturbing largely depends on the child. For example, I would say that definitely the PVs I would not let my child see, but the concerts are not so extreme as the PVs.

I don't agree with the 'anti-censorship' that would not put an age limit on anything, because I believe that children need to be protected.

On the other hand, it is also nice to see some discussion/debate on the board, because otherwise, it's true that we all tend to agree with each other all of the time. Which is nice, for the feel-good factor, but if people don't disagree with you from time to time, you forget how to think. At least, that goes for me.
 
Damn Kinsao, write an essay. XDD Thanks for the comment.

*puts on banana suit*
PEANUT BUTTA JELLEH TYME!
PEANUT BUTTA JELLEH TYME!
PEANUT BUTTER JELLY WITH BASEBALL AND WHERE HE AT AND THAR HE GO AND ECT AND FUCELDOODLE AND BLAH!

Megan finally admits:

AINT MY BG LOVERLY! I KNOW! <3
 
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Awww thank you Champloo - I'm touched and highly entertained. I really enjoyed that rendition.

The Hollywood Reporter posted a good review of the Dir en grey concert at New York! It made me shiver a little from happiness to read it. It was posted on my friend's blog, so I don't have the link to the direct article, so I have to quote it here:

"March 23, 2006

Dir En Grey
By Mick Stingley
Bottom line: Anime characters spring to life, with guitars.


In a club packed with screaming kids swinging Glo Sticks, Japan's Dir En Grey walked confidently onstage for its sold-out show Tuesday at the Avalon in New York. In only its second performance in the U.S. (following an appearance last week at South by Southwest in Austin), the flashy quintet sprung into action, leaping, turning and thrashing themselves about for an electrifying hour and a half of abrasive rock 'n' roll.

Looking like an '80s metal band re-imagined by Hot Topic, the group is a colorful pastiche of musical styles: shock rock, Sunset Strip glam, goth and death metal. Adding to the mystery, the band sings (and screams and croons) almost entirely in Japanese. Regardless, songs such as "Jesus Christ R'n'R," "Machiavellism" and "Clever Sleazoid" sent the young crowd into a frenzy.

Although Dir En Grey's first U.S. release "Withering to Death" (Warcon) will not surface until May 16, the Avalon show sold out quickly. Ticket demand for the band's Los Angeles performance tonight was so overwhelming that the show was moved from the Avalon to the Wiltern LG, which has since sold out as well.

It's astonishing that a band with virtually no presence -- no record, no radio airplay and no touring history in this country -- is selling out midsize venues. It appears the underground popularity of Dir En Grey is a testament to the power and reach of the Internet: With music and videos available for downloading, word-of-mouth on the band has spread rapidly.

Although it concentrated largely on new material, Dir En Grey closed its set with a riff-laden encore of older songs, notably "Child Prey" and "Mr. Newsman." The crowd reacted strongly, as if soaking up time-worn radio classics.

The source of Dir En Grey's appeal appears to be that its primarily young audience is clamoring for colorful, exciting bands in an era when so many mainstream bands look and sound the same. The kids want something different, and for right now Dir En Grey belongs to them. Whether the band can sell millions of records remains to be seen, but at the moment they are a visually stimulating, highly entertaining live act.

Copyright 2005 The Hollywood Reporter "

Thanks to Jenna for blogging it, and Mick Stingley for writing it! :joyful:
 
"Looking like an '80s metal band re-imagined by Hot Topic"

Thats not good thats an insult.

"the group is a colorful pastiche of musical styles: shock rock, Sunset Strip glam, goth and death metal."

insult aswell I believe
 
Placebo said:
"Looking like an '80s metal band re-imagined by Hot Topic"
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You are right, that actually is an insult!

"the group is a colorful pastiche of musical styles: shock rock, Sunset Strip glam, goth and death metal."
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I don't see that as so much of an insult, but at least a highlighting of their variety, which is a strong point of Dir en grey that they can't be tied down to a specific genre. "Colorful" implies to me that it's interesting - therefore might grab the interest of a reader who hasn't yet heard or seen Dir en grey - and "pastiche" implies that it takes influences from all over the place - again, the way I see it, variety in music is a good thing!
dictionary.com said:
pastiche
n 1: a musical composition consisting of a series of songs or other musical pieces from various sources [syn: medley, potpourri]
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I found positive in the review --

"Dir En Grey [I wish they'd capitalise it right! >_<] walked confidently onstage for its sold-out show Tuesday at the Avalon in New York."

"an electrifying hour and a half of abrasive rock 'n' roll."

"the Avalon show sold out quickly. Ticket demand for the band's Los Angeles performance tonight was so overwhelming that the show was moved from the Avalon to the Wiltern LG, which has since sold out as well."

"It's astonishing that a band with virtually no presence -- no record, no radio airplay and no touring history in this country -- is selling out midsize venues."

"The crowd reacted strongly, as if soaking up time-worn radio classics."

"[Dir en grey's] primarily young audience is clamoring for colorful, exciting bands in an era when so many mainstream bands look and sound the same."

"they are a visually stimulating, highly entertaining live act."

All good press for Dir en grey! The one that I put in bold, positive especially because of the commercial side, if someone can make money out of Dir en grey going to the US, for sure they'll push for it. >_<
 
DIRU RULES! FALL OUT BOY SUCKS!

What?! Almost every American band these days is like Fall Out Boy, I bet you anything that report wouldn't be so:

OMFG JAPANESE PEOPLE IN LIME LIGHT!

If they were like Fall Out Boy..

Oh god, if they were like Fall Out Boy, i'd loose all faith I had in music, period.

DX

PS. Apologies go out to any person who might be a fan of Fall Out Boy..it's just a personal preferrance.
 
Coshh said:
Looking like an '80s metal band re-imagined by Hot Topic,
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what?!?!?!??!!? T_T


i was thinking....i shoulda brought a cake for toshiyas bday and left it in the deg gift box.....[random thought] haha

and i heard kyo has his own clothing line called SEX and iv been searching for a site or something that sells his clothes....anyone have any idea?
 
I don't actually see the Hot Topic comment as something negative. I went in there earlier this month to see if they had a magazine I was looking for and almost all of the clothing is reminiscent of Japan's style! Ten years ago Hot Topic was actually a pretty decent store. They carried a lot of Lip Service and other "high class" brands. Once they started making their own cheap line of clothing things started to go downhill. I was surprised at some of the clothes they are carrying now. A lot of it was kind of cool, but the quality is terrible!

Hot Topic is the perfect place for a band like Dir en grey. 90% of Jrock fans look like they've just stepped out of the store anyway, and listen to most of the bands they sell merchandise for! It could really help get the band acknowledgement. I really hate it when I see people say they don't want Jrock being sold at a store like that, or don't want to see a band get big. That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

No offense, but a lot of Jrock fans are stupid, and out of all the cliques I have encountered they are definitely the rudest. It saddens me to hear all of the negative concert experiences. I had more than my share of them in NYC. You would think in an underground movement such as this people would be more helpful, but instead it's like a contest of how long you've been listening to a certain band.
 
Hot Topic clothes smell good... haha... that's so random but they do... I love the smell of Hot Topic... honestly though Norm is right. Their quality has really crapped out. I only by armwarmers and body jewelry from there anymore... and now I've started making my own armwarmers... *coughendofpointlessramblings*

I don't get that either. On the one hand I want Diru and other bands all to myself because almost the entire fanbase is stupid (HAHA) but on the other hand I really respect and admire them and know that the only way I'll have better chances to see my favorite bands is through the building of fanbases and followings... no matter how stupid they are. Their success far outweighs my selfishness... but when it comes down to it stupid fans are just pawns in my awesome plan to bring all my favorite bands to me... wahaha... jk jk jk
 
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Hot Topic clothes smell good... haha... that's so random but they do... I love the smell of Hot Topic...
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You are absolutely right! Hot Topic smells like Nag Champa! So random, and so pointless!

I'd like to keep the bands to myself too, but if I want them to come to the US then there has to be a fanbase! Or...they have to by chance play a show in the states to see how the turnout is, and then after meeting "the sisters" they will start coming back rather frequently hahaha. Based on previous statistics I'd say Diru will be back here by August... (^_~)
 
Wow I have been gone for so long, and has missed so much .

I myself brought someone with me who knew nothing of Deg to the concert. He knew of them of course, being a J-Music fan, but he prefers more pop/rock bands like L'arc~en~ciel, Asian Kung Fu Generation, High and Mighty Color, TMRevolution and the such and such. He doens't even like hard music. But I brought him there, And he is now a fan. He didn't even know the names (Just Kyo because of my little obsession because he is my fav). And he walked out glowing. He is now slowly budding into a Toshiya fanboy (he was standing in the front row on Toshiya's side).
That and he has been humming Child Prey for a week.

And also as far as Hot Topic. I very rarily go. For two reasons. 1. For the high price, they are low quality clothes. 2. For the most part HT doesn't fit my "Personal Style" (God I love America's Next Top Pretend Model). I might go in like once every 2 months. Which for a person who goes shopping once a week is not a lot Ocassionally they have something that might catch my eye. But its rare. The last thing I bought from HT was Cure Magazine.

But HT is despite everyones whining a really good marketing tool for Dir en grey. As it will appeal more to that crowd. I mean really can you Imagine Dir en grey Merch at an American Eagle with them blasting Clever Sleazoid in the store. Or at D.E.M.O surrounded by all the Hip hop clothes and bling bling, with their T-Shirts sitting on the same shelf as G-Unit or Apple Bottome. Dear God No.
 
I do not wan't to go into an agrument about HT but let me say this from what I have seen HT appeals to confused preteens who want to fit in and rebel against their mommies and daddies and whom have nothing better to after school or on saturdays so they sit in front of the store as if its some holy place. I do not think DEG wants to appeal to those kind of people.

EDIT: your link is not working NaNa and when the hell is DEG going to post up the L.A pics? They are probably removing me from each one those bastards!
 

omg i just burst out laughing in the middle of class hahahaha omg T_T that would be odd....i just imagined them decked out in american eagle in some random pv T_T
 
I don't get why everyone and their mom wants to be on a dvd or see pictures of themselves on the OHP. I'd be more concerned with watching them play then hopping in front of cameras every chance I get. And after a show I'd be writing a huge *** detailed acount of the experience from the moment I got a ticket to the instant I got home and realize what just happened. I wouldn't rush to their OHP and spending hours refreshing the page till I saw pictures posted and then try to spot a strand of hair that belongs to me in a squashed mass of hundreds fans in some photo on their site. What on earth does that accomplish? What do you get out of that? "Oh look... there's half of my face. You can see part of my nose and the rest of my face is kinda masked by my sweaty hair. You see me? Riiiiight there... *points* I'm smashed under that guys armpit in the 3rd picture... aren't I awesome? I was there!!!!! Woo-hoo... you are so jealous... I have proof I existed there. What do you have to show for it? Nah-nah-poo-poo!!!" HAHA... I think not guys... I think not... I know when I'd get the dvd too I'd still be watching them instead of looking for .0000000000000000047628 seconds footage of myself... but that's me... perhaps I'm just strange like that.
 
I don't know some people like to buy t-shirts for memmories(?) I like pictures thats just me I was just screwing around about me being in them I could care less but it brings me back because I cannot really remember much and its frustrating for me to read stuff of what happened and I don't remember it so pics and the dvd will jog my memory. Being at the DEG show is not something I want to forget and sadly I have.

Are there any new interviews from DEG?
 
i dont think people actually spend time sitting there on the ohp and refresh like mad trying to find themselves....when u find urself its just a bonus....its like....finding waldo [is that how u spell it?] but with u and ur friends and its just exciting and cool? well at least to me
 
PKK...marry me!

I thought my sister and I were the only ones getting fed up with that DVD/pic business. Although, I am a bit curious to see if my privacy will get it's 15 seconds of fame when the cameras pan up to the balcony!
 
Hey, is it true that some people got to meet Dir en grey backstage?

Cos apparently there are people all over the internet claiming they have... including my friend's friend's sister's friend or whatever.

They said there would be no fan opportunities to see them after the concert, and I was content believing that well, if I couldn't meet them it meant no one else could either (I know, so selfish, huh? ), but then today I found out that some people did get to!!! I feel a bit sad and jealous...

Like, there were people bringing cameras and video-taping the whole thing, and I, trying to be a good concert-goer, didn't bring my camera because the rules said no. Well, the security didn't even check our bags!!

I guess they had connections... though that's sorta unfair... not everyone knows the right people... Hah, I guess I should stop complaining and be glad I got to see them at all, but I would've so loved to meet Dir en grey in person. I'm quite envious.

pinkkillerkisou said:
And after a show I'd be writing a huge *** detailed acount of the experience from the moment I got a ticket to the instant I got home and realize what just happened.
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Hey... that's an idea! I think it's too late for me though... my mind has started to selectively edit and blow my memories out of proportion... as which often happens when you retell your stories too many times with too much enthusiasm...
 
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Norm... I thought you'd never ask. HAHA!

No it's not just you guys... truuuust meeee!!!!! haha. For once I'd like to read a proper review of the gig... but from a fan not a reporter. Is that too much to ask? You know how irritating it is to want to know about the show from a fan's view point about the musical and technical stand point. You read through so many fangirly reviews from stupid fans that make you just want to vomit your internal organs onto your keyboard. I don't give a sh*t what they looked like... I don't care if they dressed like hobos and smelled worse than cabbage. C'mon... this is too much. I hate even going on anything Diru related these days. It's like every review every comment is a battle of the fangirls... who can gain higher status by exaggerated or fabricated stories. Who had the better gig experience. If it's not... it's whining and b*tching about unfairness. I thought D'espairsRay reviews were bad... Dir en grey reviews are downright nauseating.

I seriously just want to post something outrageous stories like I ran into Shinya before the show but didn't say anything to him, but I knew he was totally checking me out. Then then whole time since he was thinking about me constantly and at the end of the show he rubbed his drumstick all over his crotch and threw it directly too me... then sought me out after the show cause he wanted me to bear his children like no other and said he'd like to introduce me to his other drumstick... LOL. I have the urge to just completely throw everyone off so much their brains swell and explode. I'm so mean... haha... but it's great fun!

Retelling stories with too much enthusiasm turns into fishtales... soon you'll be hearing fans meeting Kyo and Kyo jr. was a whopping 14 inches... or some ridiculous similar sh*t... haha.

Oh... it hurts... I can't laugh anymore... I'm so lame laughing at myself... I find myself too entertaining... it should be wrong to love myself so much... haha.
 
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