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Dir en grey

You know, I've made it a point to stop reading reviews on Diru because they always piss me off. And I know everything I'm going to say you have all probably heard before, but I really need to say this to help ME get over it.

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF ELITIST FANS. I am sick of hearing people bad-mouth Diru because they've 'lost their edge' or 'just aren't the same'. NEWS FLASH: PEOPLE CHANGE, GET OVER IT. Of course Diru has changed, of course they are not the same. No one EVER stays the same; like the saying goes, 'The only constant is change itself'. How can you expect them not to change? And how dare you insult them because of it? What right do you have to expect them to stay the same just so it's convenient for you? Talk about egotistical!

People have a right to their opinions. It's fine if you decide that Diru just doesn't suit your tastes anymore. BUT DON'T INSULT THEM FOR IT. Whatever you may believe, Dir en grey is not making this music to try to please YOU AND ONLY YOU (suprise!). They are making music that THEY LIKE, they are doing it because THEY ENJOY IT. If you disagree, fine, but don't start insulting them.

Which brings me to my next point. If you claim to be Dir en grey's "Number 1 Fan", then why are you making fun of them? Did it ever occur to you that saying rude things about their music is the same as flat-out insulting them?? When you complain about their music, in essence you are really saying "They've lost their talent, they suck now. Kyo can't sing, Toshiya can't play bass, and Kaoru's goatee makes him look ugly". Yes, that is EXACTLY what you are saying. And it's insulting. I'm not saying don't say it; people are entitled to their own opinions. However, if you do say it, then STOP CLAIMING TO BE A FAN!!

When you love someone or something, you should support it unconditionally. I'm not saying that means you should love everything Diru puts out; no one will ever love EVERYTHING, because everyone's tastes are different. BUT, you should still support them 100%, even if you disagree. For example, I will be the first one to point out when an outfit looks bad on one of them, or when I don't like a certain PV (*cough*mazohystofdecadance*cough* ). But I don't start bad mouthing them for it! Even if I don't like it, I understand that the did it because they do. And if they like it, then I will support them 100%. I won't go around telling everyone "Don't listen to this song, it's crap!" I know that not everyone will share my opinion, so I'll tell them to give it a try. Regardless of what I feel about a song, I BACK IT 100%. THAT, my friends, is what a TRUE fan does.

Back to what I was saying earlier, why is everyone so suprised by their new stuff? They've been going this direction for a LONG TIME. Think about it chronologically: First was GAUZE, which was mellow and indies. MACABRE was still mellow, but a little bit more shocking as far as subject matter is concerned. Kisou started getting more rock and less indies, and once again the subject matter became even more shocking. (Think Domestic F**ker Family) six Ugly and VULGAR once again: Louder and even more shocking. Withering to Death now includes even more screaming and even more disturbing subject matter and lyrics. And then people are suprised by CLEVER SLEAZOID!? It's the loudest and most expressive song so far (very political, too. I'm so proud of Kyo-kun! ), and was the obvious next step. From a conservative viewpoint (not that I agree) they have been getting more terrible by the minute, so OF COURSE the next things to appear would be WtD and CLEVER SLEAZOID. Stop acting like 'OMIGOSH! What happened!? This change is all so sudden, make it stop!' It is NOT sudden, you have just not been paying attention!

Which brings me to my conclusion: STOP COMPLAINING. I cannot understand for the life of me WHY these people who write these reviews even bother listening to Diru in the first place. I've read things online and heard people say things about how much they hate Diru, blah blah blah. And THEN when the newest singles comes out, they are the first one to listen to it, share it with others, and devote a gigantic post on their blogs to just how badly they hate it. Why are they even listening to it!? IF YOU ALREADY KNOW YOU HATE DIR EN GREY, THEN STOP LISTENING TO THEM. If I don't like something, I usually avoid it like the plague. Why are you submitting yourself to torture? Are you really that masochistic, or do you secretly love their music but just don't want other people to know, and that's why you put so much effort into hating it? For those of you Emo Diru-haters out there who enjoy sitting around complaining, please do us REAL FANS a favor and GET THE HELL OVER IT. Complaining isn't going to make the song any better, so just MOVE ON. PLEASE.

*sigh* I feel so much better now...I've been wanting to say all of that for such a long time, I just never really got the chance. Er...thanks, guys, for putting up with my ranting...
 
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OMG! I know drain away! i hate those anti fans...i really dun get it! as a diru fan...a lazy and broke one...i usually hears the songs after the criticsms...why do diru anti fans follow up on dir en grey so well??? anyways when i hate a celebraty, i NEVER update myself wit them unless my sister talks to me bout them then...yeah...but i just ignore them, i dun like them doesn't mean that i have to critisize about them...

GET A LIFE U Dir en Grey haters!
 
drain away. i totally feel you on that one. i couldn't have said it better myself! why bother to make such a long review of it if they claimed they 'couldn't care less about the music'.
 
i get sad when people start to bash diru, if they really don't like them , then why talk about them,???
people should just stick to what they love and not step into things they don't like, but most of them just talk about how terrible diru is cause they want to annoy the fans, it must entertain them...
 
Wah Drain Away I didn't want to make you angry with the reviews. I just thought they were interesting. Although most of the reviews were not anti fans. They were for some (and you can tell by the reviews) just an assignment. Like someone came and gave them a copy of the city, a picture and some short very inaccurate back story like "look their is this Japanese band that is trying to come to the U.S.A. They dress like girls and are famous in Japan take this album listen to it and I want a review in the morning"

And Gosh yes drain away I hate the anti fan. If the suck so much why are you hating so much. Why must you actively seek out every single Dir en grey forum and flame then. Or review an album just to say that they suck. It really makes no sense. If I dont like a person or a band I just don't bother with them. If I don't like that actress unless that plot seems REALLLLLLLY Interesting I don't watch the movie. I am not going to hate on them, I just don't support them. Same thing with a musician. Or even people I don't like in real life. I am not going to talk about you behind your back. I just leave you the fVck alone, and unless you bother me I don't bother you. I think JRock especially VK has the most haters. You have so many people who have so many websites that are Anti Gackt, Mana, Dir en grey, Miyavi, Gazette, Alice Nine and the can go on and on. And I am like if you DON'T LIKE THEM WHY ARE YOU SPENDING SO MUCH TIME HATING THEM. And they give BS reasons like oh they are only looks or their music sucks...WITHOUT TELLING WHY IF YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHY BESIDES THEY CANT SING THEN DON'T SAY THE SUCK.


Whew...sorry about the rant. I originally just wanted to apologize about the review and it ended up in a full fledge rant. That is so like me...
 
Ah, don't worry. It wasn't you or the reviews, it was just that it's been bothering me for MONTHS now, and finally there came a conversation it was relevent to. I just needed to get it off my chest is all.

Those kind of reviews are the worst... The writters are just doing it on assignment, so they have no background info. They can't compare or contrast. I have no problem with a negative review so long as it states its case intelligently and can support it with examples. Unlike the kind that are just "this sucks!" Evil reviewers...

Yeah, I know...why don't they just get over it? If I don't like something I just ignore it. I hate stupid people that just sit around and complain. BAH. :auch:

Seriously though, I am feeling so much better after that huge post. I feel so much less tense.
 
Drain Away, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
 
Hee hee! I love how in the last pic you can see Kyo's armpit hair is a totally different shade than the hair on his head.
 
Yeah - shouldn't he have dyed his armpit hair, too? :? Or maybe get it shaved into interesting patterns? Or even braided...?

Man... I just grossed myself out.
 
that is a really creppy thought......braided???? interesting patterns???
*shudders* just creepy...i say wear a skin tight mostly see-thru shirt that hides his armpits, that way he does have to try odd things to make them look interesting....
 
I say he should shave the area as clean as a baby's bottom and get an interseting peircing in its place.
 
I hope they don't go to Texas either... Texas is the proverbial armpit of society (well not really but... come to NY Diru). Anyway, I think Kyo looks best with black hair and more gothy like a WTD or later look.
 
lol As you avatar attests too. Personally for me its all good.

And yeah. Texas would be a spit in the eye. No ofence to Texans, it's just, well, several bands Ive wanted to see have been stopping there for awhile and no where else. Like, come on! Visit one of our coasts for a change!
 
Why not they visit the UK for a change!

Anyway, not to revive something too old, but, I just read those reviews that were posted on the last page and I don't think they're so bad, really. It was only number 8 (Peacedogman) that was entirely, unremittingly negative , and their review so obviously showed up the unintelligence of whoever was writing it...

The others, even the ones not good, found somethings to say that could have been construed as positive. Mainly the diversity/variety, and various comments about Kyo's voice that would have intrigued me, as a casual reader knowing nothing about Dir. However:
Roadrunner said:
Download "Dead Tree", and if you like it, imagine it doused in sugar and festooned with marshmallow bits.
what is that reviewer on?! Anything less sugary than WTD would be hard to imagine. That person has been listening to too much Catasexual Urge Motivation, methinks...

As this is a thread for celebrating (as well as discussing) Dir en grey, I think I'm justified in highlighting some of the positive comments made in the reviews...

Number 2 - smother.net:
Meanwhile the guitars juxtapose the bass lines and vocals in an effort to transform their sound into something almost nu-metal in nature but far too complex to be ladled into that tired genre.

Number 3 - Hardrockhaven:
Though the scene here in America is full of hundreds of aspiring metal bands, they all could learn a thing or two from Dir En Grey. Their style most resembles metal-core, but has a unique feel to it.....unique and creative album

Number 4 - ECRomper:

Number 5 - live4metal:
Jpop?!?!?!? What planet are they on?!?!?!

Number 6 - rockmymonkey:

Number 9 - metalcovenant:

So there you have it.
(Apologies for the extensive quoting, and to the admins, all the links were provided on the previous page )
 


Maybe...there's another band calling themselves Dir en Grey that we don't know about and they have them confused? (sorry thats the best xplination I can come up with)
 
This if off topic and totally random. But I just found this little bit of Information out.

taken from IMDB
The director offered the role of Yoshitoki Kuninobu to popular visual rock vocalist Kyo (from Dir en Grey). But Kyo's management forbad him to take it.

That is the guy in Battle Royal. I found this out because I am doing a paper on it for my film and literature class where we have to compare and contrast a movie vs its novel. So any ways back on topic. For any of you who have seen the movie and know the character I just have to laugh because Kyo would so fit that character. Now I am just laughing at the thought of Battle Royal with Kyo with it. And when I watch the movie tonight, Im going to be seeing Kyo instead of the actor.
 
Yeah, I heard that from somewhere. Would be so cool if Kyo was in the movie! But I can't say I'm surprised that he didn't accept it, either... Part of me is glad and part of me is sorry, I'm not sure which to be!
 
I am not surprised either that he didn't except it (or rather his manager didn't) but still this is the first time I have heard that, and as many times as I have seen that movie I really couldn't see Kyo in it. Its just that I have been having uncontrollable giggle fits imagining those scenes with Kyo in it instead. I kind of think the movie would have ended differently.
 
i am too lazy to make plushies -_- i just could never bring myself to spend the time on such things, i would much rather pay $45 for other people to make them for me
 
ah cool do you have a website? I to am to lazy to make plushies. Also do you do anyone else besides Diru. And yes I am on the job. If I post anything random, It is likely because I am at my job and bored...Although I woudn't be bored if I was actually working...
 
Yeeek!!!

You should post the pic on the tooth forum as well. Heh heh heh.

lol

Thanks for the great interview!
 
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