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Battle Royal. . . . . Remake??

I heard about this too. Original stories are damn near impossible to come by, so Hollywood is hoping to cash in on international movies that they hope haven't reached the majority of their domestic population. Typical. Yet another reason why I don't go to the movies.
 
Haven't you noticed that recently America only copies Japanese (and Chinese) movies? Guess there is no more inspiration, Asian films are doing so good recently, I think America is trying to pick a grain whenever they can What happened to all the good movies Hollywood used to bring us
 
WHY!!! Hollywood is going to ruin it and water it down.

And while talking about remakes I heard that they might remake Audition.
 
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! This is a travesty!

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Okay seriously they have to get back to their own original storylines. >__> I suppose it'll be fun to see a Remake...but it doesn't have that as much respect as the original, if you know what I mean. Appreciation of the work.

It's only a matter of time before America finds the likes of Gokusen, GTO and Hana Yori Dango to remake as well..especially Hana Yori Dango, it just be perfect for Hollywood to do their usual rubbish stuff.
 
as one of my friends said a couple of months ago.. "The only sad part about Battle Royale, is that someday a guy from Miramax is going to see it".

I guess it wasn't Miramax, but the statement became a nightmare anyway
 
I've heard rumours about this for about a year or so now. All I can say is that it will be cr@p. The idea of under 18s killing each other for an American studio is way to risky. They'll be college kids and it will probably make BR II look like an oscar winner. (you might gather I'm not pleased)
 
Nooooooooooo !

Jo Rose said:
shocking, but apparently true
even more shocking is it's being directed y the guy who did "the fast and the furious"


I have great respect for many aspects of American culture but I have to say this;

Burn Hollywood, Burn !!!
 
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I've seen both Royale Battle I and II on DVD in the past years.I would like to see Hollywood version of it with touch-up script and special effects.
 
I'd just remind people that the second Battle Royale, directed by the son of the original director was a complete mess, sloppy, lacking plot, and containing the same types of copy-cat thematic elements so derided in this thread.

Tacked on to the closure of the film was a preachy & fairly insulting middle eastern, pro-insurgent? / pro-peace? ending. Hell, I don't know what they were trying to say...

Sequels are almost always bad, no matter where they come from, and Battle Royale is no Roshomon, it's not hallowed ground... It's not your own Battle Royale anymore, but, who cares if it's a bad movie? Don't go see it--- America is not ruining your Asia.
 
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There is a scene in Royale Battle II,this Japanese actor made a " angried sour face " to America's belittled of Japan as a 12 year old,I thought that was hilarious.
 
yukio_michael said:
it's not hallowed ground... It's not your own Battle Royale anymore, but, who cares if it's a bad movie? Don't go see it--- America is not ruining your Asia.


I just think there is a lack of imagination in Hollywood at the moment. E.Gs of remakes below;

'A Texas Chainsaw Massacre'

'The Fog'

'The Ring'

'The Grudge'

'Alfie'

'The Omen'

'Vanilla Sky'

'The Italian Job'

'Freaky Friday'

'Shall We Dance'

'King Kong'

'Superman'

'Godzilla'

etc, etc, etc


I wouldn't mind if they were worthy films with something to say, but mostly they are not.
On the positive side; I'm looking forward to 'A Scanner Darkly' from America, although it is not a mainstream Hollywood film. It is directed by Richard Linklater ('School of Rock') and based on Philip.K.Dick's novel of the same name.
Maybe the most 'un-Hollywood' adaptation of a Dick story since 'Bladerunner'.
 
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It not that Hollywood is ruining "my asia" but that fact that they are going to ruin a good movie. If Hollywood could make a remake that has the same impact as the first with out watering it down, it would be okay. But I doubt that they would be able to do it justice.
 
Ruining Asia? I thought this thread was about how terrible Hollywood is, regardless of where they get their ideas. If the act of making good movies was rated like a batting average, I'd have optioned 90% of the studios to double A long ago.
 
Rob Cohen? He directed a Rammstein video. Thats cool... I dont think it'll work though. In fact the more i think about it, the worse i imagine it'll turn out.
 
I heard the original 'Fast and the Furious' came into being because a Hollywood executive read a magazine article about street racing.

Not a cool script that a bright new talent was working on, not an already great book. A magazine article.
Hence you get a shallow, vacuous movie.
I don't understand how 'Battle Royal' will translate to this style of film making.
 
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All I'm saying is that, by and large, Battle Royale is not exactly a tour de force in the first place. It's a very interesting concept, and I think, an entertaining movie. But even the son of the director couldn't cobble together a decent sequel, so why deride "Hollywood" for trying to repackage it and sell it to American audiences... true they are bereft of new ideas, but that's why you go see Good Night & Good Luck perhaps, instead of American Pie XXIVI.

A movie like Battle Royale wont reach American audiences in its original form anyways, its sort of a niche market for the non-Japanese who do manage to see it--- You cant exactly go to Blockbuster video and get it... (Though, a side note--- I was pleased that when renting Zatouichi, they throw in Sonatine as a bonus--- nice)... It's hard to imagine someone walking down to Blockbuster and actually requesting Sonatine---

It's probably difficult to make the film very much like its Japanese original, see if you can name enough child-actors who don't annoy you to fill all of the roles. Hayley Joel Osment... hmm... and I'm stuck now.

When I mention, 'ruining your asia', I'm refering first to the fact that Japan itself has a problem with what is called, pakuri, or blatant copying without reference to the original--- so it's naieve to slight Hollywood for basically getting rights to remake an original, rather than copy it, basically what the second Battle Royale did with Saving Private Ryan, including an exact duplicate (for no real reason) of the scene of Tom Hanks & Matt Damon improvising by throwing mortor-shells---

Historically speaking, a good deal of writing & film borrows heavily from each other, so this is expected... It just so happens that in this case, it's a remake of an existing film, which would of course be credited...

It might not be good, but then who cares? You just don't go see the movie. I sometimes get the feeling that people fear that others will get a bad idea of what the original was like... I just think that those same people would never suffer through a Japanese movie with subtitles... this movie serves a different market than those people reading thist thead.

Last, if Japan thought it could make money with The Ring 4: Ring Camp! I don't think it would hesitate to keep making sequels... So, again, I think we should drop the presumption that Japan somehow has cornered the market on artistic creativity.

I think Korean film is probably at a higher point right now, but that's a whole different topic alltogether.
 
Am I the only one who finds the concept of a movie with violence portrayed by school age children, even in over the top fashion, to be just asking for protests of insensitivity? Not that I find them warranted, but it seems almost inevitable.


Actually, that's a reason to make fun of the movie industry in both Japan AND America. No one is saying Japan is without blame in terms of lack of originality, but I was referring specifically to the Battle Royale idea. Remakes of movies rarely sit well with me, especially if the original was strong in its own right. Psycho springs to mind.

To even it out, I've heard Hollywood, specifically MTV will be remaking "The Warriors," a late 70s cult classic film that's enjoying a bit of a resurgence. Directed by Tony Scott, known for movies like Domino and Man on Fire, it will feature martial arts instead of gang-type violence. Does this sound like a terrible idea to anyone else?
 
...*still has to revive from death* Oh god, so unoriginal. I don't have respect for some things of Hollywood (and what attached), and this is one of them. I don't even look at the american grudge when I see it lying in a shop!! It's stupid, allright. But it's the Japanese directing that makes their music so special. Like the Ring and Grudge have these aspects, that make you freak out ... they make you wait ... don't show some things ... and you'll be scared as hell at the end. I think the Americanized versions will just scare you, and make you check under your bed before going to sleep. But the Japanese versions just have SOMETHING that makes them special!!!

Anyway, I don't think they should remake BR (is it that obvious? nooo XD). I don't think it'll be better, nor a better remake than the others.
 
I sort of liked Gus Van Sant's frame-by-frame reproduction of Psycho, but I've not ever met anyone who agreed that you should tamper w/ the Hitchcock original... I'm not overly fond of Hitchcock, so, maybe that's why I give it the pass.

Two movies in particular are a good example of how immitation can work, and work well, everyone knows of Seven Samurai & its follower, The Magnificent Seven, arguably both two of the greatest movies of all time, I think.

They are making a remake of Oldboy as well; I've seen the original so, I really don't care about the remake, but I think at the very least they are picking interesting scripts to make movies from. God, like I said, do we really need another American Pie?

I'd prefer at least that audiences are getting interesting and original scripts, even if they are comming from Asia, than have to bear another limp release from the National Lampoon group... How many 'teenage sex wager' movies can they make??

As an asside, adressing some other comments, of course the movie isn't going to be superlative compared to the original, but like I said, people who viewed the original movie are obviously not the movie's intended audience... Maybe they are the people who saw Fast & the Furious, Tokyo Drift, who knows...?
 

I doubt I could agree with you more on how bad some of these movies are. Just another example of how much the public loves low quality, low-brow humor. Not that low-brow humor is bad, of course. Anyone who's seen a Mel Brooks movie knows how well it can be done. Sex with dessert isn't well done.

I suppose my main beef with Hollywood isn't that they take ideas, it's that they'd rather churn out remakes of relatively obscure movies in an attempt at a cash grab than search harder for good screenplays. But that's business, I suppose. I'm an idealist that would rather not have movies come out than see a bunch of mediocre stuff.
 
hollywood has been remaking japanese movies for a long time, and theyll continue to do it. take yukios example of seven samurai/magnificent seven or yojimbo/a fist full of dollars/last man standing or non japanese works like hamlet/the lion king. anyway just dont spend your money on it. i also agree with yukio on korean films, theres been some good things from them in the last couple years. *waits for a hollywood remake of MSG*
 
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