Assumptions that gaijin cannot speak Japanese (at all)

Mikawa Ossan said:
As far as people talking about you, calling you a gaijin amonst themselves, yes it happens. But what's the big deal? I have noticed that they often will mention it, but then it just passes. People often make only as much of the fact that you are a gainjin as you yourself do, in my experience.
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Complaining about it will not solve anything. I think that the more you put up a fuss about it, the more you reinforce people's sometimes negative stereotypes of "foreigners".

So, am I allowed to call the Japanese "naijin" (窶愿?ツ人, insiders/natives) to stay coherent with the Japanese dualism of uchi (inside) and soto (outside) ? Next time a salesman comes and ring to my door and he says "ah, gaijin da!" when I open the door (this has happened to me 3 times, among about 10 sales people that came), I will reply "ah, naijin da!". :-) This way, if he is shocked or find my utterance inappropriate, we will be even. I suspect that the guy won't even understand what I mean by "naijin" and won't think about it (wondering about the meaning of words is not something the Japanese normally do). I would be fun with a group of "gaijin" to start talking about the "naijin", giggle as me mention it at the bewilderment of locals. Everytime a lift/elevator door opens and some Japanese are inside, I will say "oh, naijin da!" and ask them "Nihonjin desu ka ? Watashi no nihongo heta desu yo." and laugh aloud alone. This way maybe they will understand how I feel when they tell "gaijin" the same in reverse.

The only thing we can't do as gaijin talking about naijin is grouping all countries in the world under the "naijin" term to make stereotypes and misconceptions all the more outrageous. I could say "oo, these naijin you know, they eat natto every morning !". But it doesn't sound as bad as "oh, these gaijin, they all eat hamburgers" - if gaijin meant "American", there would be at least a bit of truth in it, but as a gaijin could as well be Indian, Chinese, Ghanan, Italian or Swedish, only the Japanese have the priviledge of making such gross overgeneralisation on a world scale.

If you're not willing to accept that burden, then IMHO you have no business complaining about minor inconveniences you face here.

But is it fair that they do things we can't do to them in Japan ? (see above) Even outside Japan, when Japanese people come to Europe, we don't call them "gaijin" or foreigner in the country's language. We don't look all surprise and say "oh, a gaijin" when a Japanese appears in the lift/elevator. We don't try to speak broken Japanese they don't understand when they address us in the local language. We don't assume that they cannot eat the local food or cannot use some utensils because they are Japanese. I don't understand how most Westerners want to be tolerant of such behaviour while staying in Japan, using for argument that we live in their country and should do as they like, but if somebody were to behave like that with Japanese tourists or residents in a Western country, he/she would be labelled as a racist for making fun of them or assume they can't do things every human being can do.

Honestly, what would you think of a French person (just an example) who would ask Japanese residents in France whether they can eat "fois gras" and if met by a positive answer, take a surprised expression and say "oh, really, you can eat fois gras ? Wow ! you must be French ! I thought the Japanese couldn't eat fois gras." Then, the same with cheese, bread, or whatever with most of the typically French dishes at a meal. First that would be boring, but the person would be thought of as seriously deranged or bizarrely prejudiced.

Let say that same Japanese person has lived for 5 years in France and speaks French quite fluently. Everytime he/she asks something in a shop, station, etc. the local French people reply in (broken) English or give the person a explanation leaflet/map/timetable in English. Don't forget that this is France, and the Japanese person speaks French to them. Assuming that a Japanese speaks English is not much better than assuming that a French or Italian person speaks English. Almost as many don't (or not fluently at least) in any of the three countries. So, that Japanese person would certainly get frustrated after a while. Living in France and trying hard to learn French, it must be annoying when the locals reply to you in English seeing you are Asian, regardless of how good your French is. It's even more bothering if one does not speak English, or less well than French in this case. Not being a native English speaker, regardless of my English skills, I find it as bothering when I address someone in Japanese and the Japanese all assume that I speak English and reply in English (or say they can't speak English), just because I am Caucasian.

What they difference between being a Japanese who can speak French in France, or a French speaker who can speak Japanese in Japan ? Local people shouldn't behave differently. Yet, I can tell you that nobody in France (or Belgium, Germany, Italy or whatever) will reply to you in (broken or good) English if you address them in their language with a reasonably good level (i.e. not reading from a phrasebook, but making comprehensible sentences on your own). So why do the Japanese feel they have to right to hurt foreigner's feelings and pride by basically feigning not to understand your Japanese well enough so that English is the only solution left to communicate, however poor theirs is ? How could they be so careless about other people's feelings ?

Ironic for a country so concerned with "omoiyari" that people should lack so much what I call "kangaeyari". Omoiyari is try to feel how another would like you to do for them (e.g. offering them a present on their birthday). Kangaeyari is actually reflecting (not just feeling based on one's own emotions) about how to achieve that. In this case, having "kangaeyari" means understanding that 1) somebody who makes efforts to speak the local language does not wish to be talked to in another language, 2) not everybody may speak this other language, so there is no point assuming that the foreigner can if he/she is addressing you in your language. My entire article Things Japanese people should not say to Westerners is based on this typical Japanese lack of "kangaeyari" (a neologism of mine).
 
Well then, why is it that you seem to have so many problems and I seem to have so few?

I can only think of it as being a matter of attitude. :p
 
Mikawa Ossan said:
Well then, why is it that you seem to have so many problems and I seem to have so few?
I can only think of it as being a matter of attitude.

Yeah, I have to invent problems to try to "fit in" within the group. :argue: No, just kidding (or, am I ? I'll have to scrutinize my subconscious :stan: ).

Why don't you think it's a problem that the naijin have such a different attitude toward foreigners ? They are breaking the world harmony 😭

(I think I am getting a bit tired...)
 
Just thought Maciamo wanted to invite more Japanese, trolls or not, with his critical opinions here, but I suppose I was wrong. If he really wants to educate them, I'd start my threads in "ヒ?ェ窶敕岩?廬窶堙鞍稚ニ辿ツーニ停?ーニ停ぎ" here...

Just a quick question, what do you do for your shitamachi community to "fit in"?
 
pipokun said:
Just a quick question, what do you do for your shitamachi community to "fit in"?

I participated to the local matsuri everytime it was held. I greet my neighbours (but rarely get more than a mumbled reply as most people are over 60 and are not well disposed toward foreigners). I learnt about the history of the neighbourhood (taught my wife about it, although she's always lived there). What could I do more that a normal citizen usually does ? What could I do if people don't even want to say "hello" ?
 
Maciamo said:
I participated to the local matsuri everytime it was held. I greet my neighbours (but rarely get more than a mumbled reply as most people are over 60 and are not well disposed toward foreigners). I learnt about the history of the neighbourhood (taught my wife about it, although she's always lived there). What could I do more that a normal citizen usually does ? What could I do if people don't even want to say "hello" ?

you're just unlucky not to have any internationl friendship loving ochan/obachan there.
the smallest town I've ever lived was the town with its 40,000 population. for me, it is a rather small one, though some of you may think it's big.
honestly it was a bit surprised to see people like i said above.
 
Maciamo said:
Yeah, I have to invent problems to try to "fit in" within the group. :argue: No, just kidding (or, am I ? I'll have to scrutinize my subconscious :stan: ).

Why don't you think it's a problem that the naijin have such a different attitude toward foreigners ? They are breaking the world harmony 😭

(I think I am getting a bit tired...)
I don't have an answer any more than anyone else here, so you have tried talking about this with them I'm sure....what has the general response been ?

Besides walking around buried in a Japanese newspaper or book never to be mistaken for an illiterate gaijin.... 😌
 
窶堋ケ窶堙≫?堋ゥ窶堋ュツ鞘?倪?堋ォ窶卍シ窶堋オ窶堙??堙?窶堙ァ窶堙≫?堋ス窶堙娯?堙??堋キ窶堋ェツ、窶堋サ窶堙ェ窶堙??堙?窶堙「窶堙≫?堙 窶堙ィヒ?凪?督。窶堋ェ窶堙ュ窶堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶堙遺?堋「窶堙??堋キ窶堙仰。
窶堙?窶堋、ヒ?ェ窶忸ツ考窶堋ヲ窶堙??。窶堋、ナ陳セ窶堋「窶「テサ窶堙ーツ考窶堋ヲ窶堙??堋ュ窶堙ェ窶堙懌?堋キ窶堋ゥツ?

窶伉ス窶「ツェツ、テゥx窶堋キ窶堙固スg窶堋「窶「テサ窶堋ェヒ?。窶堋、窶堙娯?堋カ窶堙。窶堙遺?堋「窶堙??堋オ窶堙・窶堋、窶堋ゥツ?窶堙??堋、 窶堋「窶堋、ヒ?凪?督。窶堙?「テゥx窶堋キツ」窶堙ーナスg窶堙≫?堋ス窶堙娯?堙??堋キ窶堋ゥツ?
ツ「窶禿吮?堙ゥツ」窶堙??堋「窶堋、窶堋ア窶堙??堙娯?堋ゥ窶堙按?

窶楼窶堙固スg窶廃窶堙俄?堙債、ツ「テゥx窶堋キツ」窶堙債債「窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥ窶堙ア窶堙??堋キ窶堙仰・ツ・ツ・ツ。
窶堙??堙?ツ、ツ新窶堋オ窶堋ュナ?w窶堙ア窶堙?(窶堋「窶堙「ツ、ナスg窶堋「窶「テサツ、窶堙懌?堋セ窶堙懌?堋セナ?w窶堙ア窶堙??堙遺?堋「窶堙ァ窶堋オ窶堋「窶壺?板)ツ、ナスg窶堙≫?堙??堙昶?堙ヲ窶堋、窶堙?スv窶堙≫?堙?・ツ・ツ・ツ。

窶堋ア窶堋、窶堙遺?堙≫?堙??堋「窶堋ス窶堙ァ窶堙??堋、窶堋ゥ窶堙按?
ツ『窶愿コ窶怒ツ人窶堋ェツ、窶禿壺?冦窶堙ァ窶堙絵AIJIN窶堙俄?ーテッ窶堙≫?堙?、窶懌?凪?漏窶愿コ窶怒ナ津ェ窶堋ェツ出窶藩??堙遺?堋「窶堙?塚??堋キ窶堙ゥ窶堙遺?堙ア窶堙??堋、窶堋エ窶堋「ツ(窶ケC窶堋ェ窶堋ソ窶堙・窶堙≫?堙??。窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥ窶堙娯?堙可)窶堙??堋キ窶堙仰。ツ』

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Another experience: I was on the phone, and the woman was trying to explain something to me-- I told her I understood... But she seemed not to believe me. :?
Anyway, after trying to explain for a while, she finally said 窶ーpナ津ェ窶堙??堋ォ窶堙遺?堋ュ窶堙?団ニ停?ーニ辰窶堙ュツ!
It was annoying...
 
Elizabeth said:
Besides walking around buried in a Japanese newspaper or book never to be mistaken for an illiterate gaijin.... 😌

Good idea ! I never thought about it because I don't usually read while walking (a bit dangerous in Tokyo). But I could try in the neighbourhood, just to show them I can read Japanese. 👍
 
Btw, I was checking Google to see if somebody else had also come up with the term "naijin" and I have found an article in the Japan Times about this : You've earned it: lifetime 'gaijin' status!

Japan Times said:
After an extended stay in Japan, does one ever cease to regard oneself as a "gaijin" (foreigner)?
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When I first came to Japan, I was not happy with the status of "gaikokujin" and, like many naive foreigners before me, wanted only one thing: to become Japanese! I wanted to become what I call a "naikokujin." I shunned the bed for a futon, chose a tatami-style apartment over one with chairs and furniture, and vowed to sit in the "seiza" position no matter how blue my face turned. I would live only Japanese style!

I think that summarises well how many (most of the ?) Westerners who come and live in Japan for the country itself (not for their job) think and behave when they first come.

Japan Times said:
Although I was still a gaijin, my Japanese "naijin" friends seemed more than happy to help me make my miraculous transformation. I envisioned before and after photos: Before -- rude gaijin; after -- polite, cultured, self-effacing naijin with blonde hair.

This may be true for some people, but in my case, I found the Japanese to be only superficially polite, rather selfish, lacking "kangaeyari" and often bad mannered (pushing in trains, bad street manners...). Of course, that is based on my experience in Tokyo (but that's still where 28% of the Japanese live or commute to).

Japan Times said:
Making my "inkan" in Japanese. While most foreigners have their personal stamps made in katakana, reflecting their gaijinness, my naijin coworkers were eager to translate my name into kanji characters.

Most foreigners ? Those who come on business maybe, but I and many other Westerners have met have their hanko in kanji. It's part of the cultural experience.

To this day, when Japanese see my stamp, they are completely baffled and cannot even begin to read it. After so many embarrassing encounters with my uniquely stamped legal documents at the bank and post office, I changed my inkan to a gaijin-friendly katakana one.

Haha, never had any problem with mine. :p Fortunately, my(first) name is pretty easy to render in kanji.

Speaking like Japanese royalty. A naijin friend of mine, while teaching me Japanese, taught me to say "go-kigen yo" instead of "konnichi wa" for "hello." This, she said, was the Japanese used by the royal family, and if I used it I would be highly regarded among regular naijin and that this would prove that I was upper class.

I also used such expressions (e.g. "go shimpai naku") in my first year in Japan, but some Japanese just laughed when they heared me speak like that. :okashii"
 
One particularly surprising time was when an older Japanese man asked me for directions (in Japanese) at a packed Takananobaba JR station though.

I can beat that. I was asked in Japanese to take a group photo... in Hawaii! The kicker was he didn't even point to the camera or hold it up or anything. It was a friends wedding... the bride was Japanese, so a large portion of the guests were Japanese. Why he didn't ask them, I'll never know. This was the bride's father, who got obscenely tanked later in the evening.
 
窶愿コ窶怒ナ津ェ窶堙娯?「テサ窶堋ェ窶伉≫?堋「窶堙娯?堙?、窶愿コ窶怒ナ津ェ窶堙?鞘?倪?堋ゥ窶堋ケ窶堙??堋ュ窶堋セ窶堋ウ窶堋「ツ。

ニ陳哉淡ニ谷ニ停?ケ窶堙??堙遺?堋「窶愿コ窶怒ツ人窶堙稽yth窶堙俄?佚寂?堋オ窶堙??堙個、窶堋ィ窶悳窶堙ィ窶堙坂?堋イ窶堙?窶堙≫?堙??堙?窶堙??堋キツ。
ナス窶樞?堙?窶伉スツ渉ュナ?o窶堋ヲ窶堋ェ窶堋?窶堙ゥ窶堙娯?堙?、窶堋サ窶堙ェ窶堋シ窶堙ェ窶堙家坦ニ陳?停?愴暖窶堋ウ窶堋ケ窶堙??堋ュ窶堋セ窶堋ウ窶堋「ツ。
窶堋ア窶堋ア窶堙??堙個「ナ?Oツ坂?伉人ツ」窶堙最ステ・窶堙俄?ーツ「窶「テ?人窶堙ーナスw窶堋オ窶堙懌?堋キツ。

gaijin cannot speak Japanese?ツ:85ツ≫?懌?慊ッヒ?凪?堋オ窶堙懌?堋キツ。窶堋ス窶堋セツ、窶愿コ窶怒窶堙可絶?昶?扼窶堋「窶堙遺?堋ェ窶堙ァツ、窶愿コ窶怒ナ津ェ窶堙ーナスg窶堙ュ窶堙遺?堋ュ窶堙??堋「窶堋「ナ?テや?ケツォ窶堙俄?堋「窶堙ゥ窶堋ス窶堙溪?堙可、ナ?o窶堋ヲ窶堙ヲ窶堋、窶堙??堋オ窶堙遺?堋「ナ?Oツ坂?伉人窶堋ェ窶堋「窶堙ゥ窶堙娯?堙?窶牌ヒ?カ窶堋セ窶堙??堋「窶堋、窶ケC窶堋ェ窶堋オ窶堙懌?堋キツ。ツ(窶氾。ツ:ヒ?ェ窶「窶昶?堙姑男ニ短ツ出窶ーテ停?堋ャ窶ーp窶ーテッヒ彙"窶ケツウナスt"-->窶氾。ツ:窶愿コ窶怒窶堙可絶?昶?扼窶堙?窶堋「窶堙?、3ツ〜4ツ催芝ス邃「ニ椎槌遅ニ停?ケ窶堙娯?愿コ窶怒ナ津ェツ。ツ)
窶堋サ窶堙ェ窶堋ゥ窶堙ァツ、窶昶?卍人窶堙最陳ゥ窶堙??堋ュ窶堙ェ窶堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶堋オ窶堙??督セ窶堙ァ窶堋ゥ窶堙可「ニ狸ニ辰ニ淡ニ停?慊」窶堙遺?堙娯?堙?、窶堋サ窶堙個静「窶佚篠絶?昶?堙個渉ュ窶堙遺?堋ウ窶堙「ツ、ツ青シ窶ーツ「窶堙問?堙娯?昶┐窶漏窶堙??堋オ窶堋ス窶ケツュ窶堋「窶慊イ窶堙ェ窶堋ゥ窶堙ァツ、窶堋ゥ窶堙遺?堙ィ窶愿⇒?吮?堙俄?堙昶?堙ァ窶堙ェ窶堙??堙ゥ窶堙娯?堋ェヒ?ェ窶敕披?堙固陳エヒ?カ窶堋セ窶堙?スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋キツ。窶ケツー窶堙ァ窶堋ュツ「窶堋ォ窶堙樞?堋ス窶堋ュツ」窶堙??慊ッ窶堋カヒ?オ窶堋「窶堙?、窶敕樞?堙ァ窶堙娯?吮??窶堙?、ニ辰ニ陳?ーニ淡窶堙??堋ォ窶堋?窶堋ェ窶堙≫?堙??堙ゥ窶堋ス窶堙淞、窶ーツス窶堙ーナ陳セ窶堙≫?堙??堙?窶督ウ窶佚岩?堙??堋キツ。

chopsticksツ:100ツ≫?懌?慊ッヒ?凪?堙??堋キツ。ヒ?遺?楼ツ、窶慊ッ窶堋カナス窶凪?堙ー窶堙壺?堙「窶堋「窶堙??堋「窶堋スニ竹ツーニ停?ーニ停?愴檀ツ人窶堋ェ窶堋「窶堙懌?堋オ窶堋ス窶堋ェツ、窶ーツス窶扼窶堙?窶愿コ窶怒窶堙俄?堋「窶堙ゥ窶堙遺?堙ァ窶堙銀?堋・ツ。ツ。

blood typeツ:ナス窶樞?堙?ナスナセツ々ツ「窶突??ーテア窶堙ヲ窶堋ュ窶徹窶堋ォ窶堙?窶堋ケ窶堋クツ、ニ築ニ湛ニ弾ニ湛窶堙昶?堋ス窶堋「窶堙依彙窶堙ー窶堋キ窶堙ゥ窶堙遺?塲クツ」窶堙??堙最スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋キ窶堋ェツ、窶堋サ窶堙ェ窶堋ョ窶堙ァ窶堋「窶堋オ窶堋ゥツ、ヒ彙窶堙個静倪?堙ィツ出窶堋オ窶「テサ窶堙ーナスv窶堋「窶堙や?堋ゥ窶堙遺?堋「窶堙ア窶堋カ窶堙。窶堙遺?堋「窶堙??堋キ窶堋ゥ窶堙仰。ヒ彙窶堙姑値ニ耽窶堋ェ窶堙遺?堋「窶堙??堋「窶堋、窶堋ゥツ、ヒ?・ナスA窶佚」窶堙ュ窶堙ィ窶堙??堋「窶堋、窶堋ゥツ。窶堋ス窶堋セツ、Aナ耽ツ、Oナ耽窶堙固?窶楪坂?。窶堙俄?堙や?堋「窶堙??堙固?ツィヒ?。窶堋「窶堙債、窶堙遺?堙ア窶堙??堙?ナ陳セ窶堋ヲ窶堙懌?堋ケ窶堙アツ。ナス窶樞?堙債、ナスツゥ窶「ツェ窶堙固椎停?ーtナ耽窶堙ー窶冦窶堙ァ窶堙遺?堋「ツ人窶堋ェ窶伉ス窶堋ュ窶堙?、ツ青ウナ?m窶堙俄?慊敘致ナステヲ窶堙ェ窶堙??堋「窶堙遺?堋「窶堙?スv窶堙≫?堙??堙懌?堋オ窶堋スツ。ツ青ウナ?m窶堙遺?慊敘致窶堋ェ窶堋?窶堙ゥ窶堙遺?堙ァツ、窶堋コ窶堙絶?ケツウ窶堋ヲ窶堙??梅窶堋オ窶堋「窶堙??堋キツ。ツ(ニ箪ツーニ湛窶堙?ツ)
ツ(ナ椎停?ーtナ耽窶堙姑但ニ辰ニ断ニ但窶堙債、ツ「ナ椎停?ーtナ耽ツ静ィ窶堋「ツ」窶堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶敖ュツ湘銀?堋オ窶堙??堙ゥ窶堙?スv窶堋、窶堙娯?堙?、窶堋ア窶堙ェ窶堙ー窶登窶禿??堋キ窶堙ゥ窶堙俄?堙債静ィ窶堋「ナスY窶ケテ??堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶堙や?堙披?堋キ窶堋オ窶堋ゥ窶堙遺?堋「窶ケC窶堋ェ窶堋オ窶堙懌?堋キツ。good luckツ)

Japan has 4 seasonsツ:ナス窶樞?堙債、窶堋ア窶堙ェ窶堙ー窶ーツス窶堙ァ窶堋ゥ窶堙個広ツ債絶?堙?陳ゥ窶堋ス窶堙?スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋キツ。ツ「ニ段ニ停?懌?堋カ窶堙。窶堋ア窶堙ィ窶堙。ツ。ツ」窶堙?スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋オ窶堋ス窶堋ェツ、ツ広ツ債絶?堙俄?堙坂?氾??堋ュ窶堋?窶堙ゥヒ彙窶堙遺?堙娯?堙?、ナステヲ窶堙ィツ坂?。窶堋「窶堙懌?堋ケ窶堙ア窶堙??堋オ窶堋スツ。

窶堋「窶堙ュ窶堙、窶堙ゥ窶ーp窶ーテッヒ彙ナ?wツ校窶懌┐窶堙?ツ、窶ーツ「窶「テ?人窶堙娯?伉カツ催昶?堙ーテ「J窶堙ィツ湘」窶堋ー窶堙?、ナ?Oツ坂?伉人ツ債キ窶「テ岩?堙ーツ鞘?「窶卍キ窶堋オ窶堙??堙ゥ窶堙?スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋キ窶堙ヲツ。ナ?Oツ坂?伉人窶堙ーツ「窶慊イ窶堙ェ窶堙娯?ー_窶堙個湘」窶堙娯?伉カツ催敖」窶堙娯?堙懌?堙懌?堙俄?堋オ窶堙??堋ィ窶堋「窶堋ス窶「テサ窶堋ェ窶禿冷?堋ゥ窶堙ィ窶堙懌?堋キ窶堋オ窶堙仰。
窶堋ス窶堋セツ、窶堋ア窶堙ェ窶堙ー窶督ウ窶堋ュ窶堋キ窶堙?、窶「窶コツ催ャ窶廃窶堙??堋オ窶堙?、窶堋サ窶堙娯?ーツカナ鍛窶堙ーナステウ窶堋ッ窶堙??堋「窶堙ゥニ男ニ短窶ーpナ津ェ窶ケツウナスt窶堙債、ナスdナス窶凪?堋ェ窶堙遺?堋ュ窶堙遺?堙ィツ、窶愿コ窶怒ナ津ェ窶堋ェ窶「ツェ窶堙ァ窶堙遺?堋「ニ稚ニ椎?窶堙ー窶堋オ窶堙?津戸?凪?堙家鱈ニ短ニ停?ケ窶堙ー窶堋オ窶堋ス窶堙ィツ、ナ津ー窶凖翰?。窶敖スニ鱈ニ鍛ニ致窶堙ーナ陳ゥ窶慊ヲ窶堋ウ窶堙ェ窶堋ス窶堙ィ窶堋オ窶堙??堋「窶堙ゥナ?Oツ坂?伉人窶堙?窶徭ツ坂?。窶堋ェヒ?ォ窶堋ュ窶堙遺?堙ゥ窶堙?スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋キ窶堙ヲツ。

テ。テ≫?卮停?禿娯?堋ウ窶堙ア窶堋ェ窶愿コ窶怒ツ人窶堙俄?ーテッ窶堙≫?堙??堙ゥ窶堙吮?堙?、ツ青シ窶芭ツ人窶堙俄?ーテッ窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙遺?堋「窶堙?スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋キ窶堋ェツ、ナス窶樞?堙?ツ、ナス窶披?堋ス窶堙ヲ窶堋、窶堙闇?'窶堋カ窶堙??ケt窶堙可青シ窶芭ツ人窶堙俄?ケテシツ辱窶堋ウ窶堙ェ窶堋ス窶堋ア窶堙??堋ェ窶堋?窶堙ィ窶堙懌?堋キ窶堙娯?堙?、窶堋ア窶堙個湘ェ窶堙ーナステ倪?堙ィ窶堙??堋ソ窶堙・窶堙≫?堙?、ナ陳セ窶堙ュ窶堋ケ窶堙??堙?窶堙ァ窶堋、窶堙?:

1) ナス窶樞?堋ェツ、窶ケツ焦ステー窶ーツョ窶堙??拵ナスh窶堋オ窶堙ーツ食窶堙冷?堋ス窶堙??堋ォツ、ニ棚ツーニ湛ニ暖ニ停?ーニ椎?ニ但ツ人ツ、ニ辰ニ樽ニ椎?ニ湛ツ人ツ、ニ谷ニ段ニ胆ツ人ツ、ニ但ニ陳?椎?ニ谷ツ人ツ、窶伉オ窶堙≫?堙?、窶ケテェ窶卩ス窶堙ー窶堙や?堙披?堋オ窶堋ス窶堙ヲ窶堋、窶堙闇?テァ窶堙ー窶堋ウ窶堙ェ窶堋スツ。窶氾冷?堙可催?窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堋スニ棚ツーニ湛ニ暖ニ停?ーニ椎?ニ但ツ人窶堙債、窶堋「窶堋キ窶堙ーヒ?壺?慊ョ窶堋オ窶堙?ス窶樞?堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶板」窶堙ェツ、ニ辰ニ樽ニ椎?ニ湛ツ人窶堙債、ナス窶樞?堋ェツ食窶堙冷?堙??堙ゥ窶堙??堋ア窶堙ォ窶堙固ステ環真窶堙懌?堙?ステヲ窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堋スツ。-->ナス窶樞?堙坂?禿ャ窶敕伉人窶堙??堋キ窶堋ゥツ?

2) ナスツ昶?堋ソ窶ケA窶堙ィ窶堋キ窶堋オ窶堙ー窶敞停?堋ィ窶堋、窶堙??堋オ窶堋ス窶堙ァツ、ナ停┐窶堋サ窶堋、窶堙闇?テァ窶堙ー窶堋オ窶堋ス窶堙娯?堙?、ツ「ツ好窶堋ォ窶堋カ窶堙。窶堙遺?堋「窶堙個?ツ」窶堙?陳セ窶堙≫?堋ス窶堙ァツ、ツ「ツ青カ窶ケ窶コ窶堙遺?堙ア窶堋ゥツ食窶堙冷?堙ァ窶堙ェ窶堙遺?堋「窶堙ヲツ。ニ弛ニ誰ニ弾ニ椎?ニ但窶堋ェ窶堋「窶堙≫?堙鞘?堋「窶堙?」窶堙?陳セ窶堙ュ窶堙ェ窶堋スツ。-->窶督ウ窶ケテ崘スツコヒ?ァ窶堋ソ窶堙??堋キ窶堋ゥツ?

3)ツ「窶堋「窶堙や?堋ゥナ蓄窶愿キ窶堙ーツ食窶堙冷?堙??堙昶?堋ス窶堋「窶堙遺?塲クツ」窶堙?陳セ窶堙≫?堋ス窶堙ァツ、窶氾「窶堋ス窶堋「ナ?テァ窶堙?。テ俄?堙懌?堙ェ窶堋スツ。-->ナス窶樞?堋ェ窶禿ャ窶敕伉人窶堋セ窶堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶堙??堋キ窶堋ゥツ?

ツ‥窶堙?、窶堙絶?堙??堙や?堙絶?堙??堙でステヲ窶堙ィツ湘」窶堋ー窶堙??堋ス窶堙ァナ津?窶堋ェ窶堙遺?堋「窶堙??堋キ窶堋ェツ、窶堋「窶堋ク窶堙ェ窶堙個湘ェツ坂?。窶堙?ツ、窶堋サ窶堙娯?堋ア窶堙??堙嫁?ツオ窶堙ェ窶堙??堙遺?堋「ツ、窶堙懌?堋ス窶堙坂?督ウ窶冦窶堋セ窶堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶ケN窶堙ゥ窶堋ア窶堙??堋セ窶堙?陳セ窶堋、窶彑窶堙??堙坂?慊ッ窶堋カ窶堋セ窶堙?スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋キツ(myth窶堙??テ滅淡窶堙遺?堋「窶堋ゥ窶堙?窶堋オ窶堙ェ窶堙懌?堋ケ窶堙ア窶堋ェツ、ツ債ェ窶堙≫?堋ア窶堙最ス窶披?堋ス窶堙ヲ窶堋、窶堙遺?堙?窶堙個)
ツ債アツ催冷?堙闇ス窶凪?堙?痴ツーニ痴ツー窶倪?コ窶堋ョ窶堙娯?堋ェ窶禿岩?昶?吮?堋「窶堙娯?堙?、窶拵ナスh窶堋オ窶堙遺?堙?、窶堙ュ窶堋エ窶堙??敕シ窶督。窶堋オ窶堋サ窶堋、窶堙可食窶堙冷?堙??堙「窶堙ィ窶堙懌?堋オ窶堋ス 😊

窶儕ツ照停?堙可、窶堋サ窶堙娯?堙??堋ォ窶堙可、窶堋サ窶堙ェ窶堙ー窶「s窶禿ケ窶ーテオ窶堙嫁スv窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥナス窶凪?堙ーツ、窶怒ツ人窶堙嫁陳セ窶堙≫?堋ス窶堙ァ窶堙??堋、窶堙??堋オ窶堙・窶堋、ツ?
 
Gaijinian said:
Hmm...
窶愿コ窶怒ツ人窶堙債、ニ狸ニ辰ニ淡ニ停?懌?堙嘉ゥx窶堋オ窶堙?(ツ『窶堋ア窶堙ア窶堙闇スg窶廃窶堙遺?堙ア窶堙?坂?。窶堙≫?堙??堙遺?堋「窶堙ア窶堋セ窶堋ゥ窶堙?窶堋オ窶堙ェ窶堙遺?堋「ツ』ツ)窶ーテッ窶堋、窶楼ツ、窶愿銀?漏ツ「窶愿コ窶怒ツ人窶堋カ窶堙。窶堙遺?堋「窶堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶愿コ窶怒ナ津ェ窶堋ェツ出窶藩??堙遺?堋「ツ」窶堙≫?堙?塚??堙溪?堙ゥ窶堙娯?堋ェナ津凪?独停?ーテ卩スqツ(窶堙ュ窶堋ゥ窶堙ゥツ、窶堋サ窶堙ェツ?窶禿岩?昶?吮?堋「ナ陳セ窶杯窶堙??堋キ窶堙ヲツ)窶堋セツ。
I was just trying out some new vocab, even though I knew it made little sen窶壺?彳. When I hear a new word or two, I try to use it/them-- just gave it a (pathetic) shot...
ヒ?」窶堙ェ窶堙闇陳セ窶堋「窶「テサ窶堋セ窶堙≫?堋ス窶堙娯?堙?、窶卮停?ーツサ窶堋オ窶堙?(Again, new word)窶堋「窶堋「ニ塚?。ツ湘篠。 😌

Back off on vocab acquisition for a bit and go back and review grammar and sentence structure again. You're getting ahead of yourself.
 
Mikawa Ossan said:
Well then, why is it that you seem to have so many problems and I seem to have so few?

I can only think of it as being a matter of attitude. :p

It's also part and parcel of the nature of work that he does. The sooner he gets out of it, the better off he'll be.
 
mikecash said:
Back off on vocab acquisition for a bit and go back and review grammar and sentence structure again. You're getting ahead of yourself.
ツ鞘?「ナ陳セ窶堋?窶堙ィ窶堋ェ窶堙??堋、ツ。窶ーテー窶堙≫?堙??堙懌?堋キツ。ニ探ニ鍛ニ鱈ツ、ナ断ナスツヲ窶堋オ窶堙遺?堋「窶「テサ窶堋ェ窶氾??堋ゥ窶堙≫?堋ス窶堙??堋キ窶堙仰。 😊

窶「ツ≫?凖岩?堙遺?堙ァ窶堋サ窶堙ア窶堙遺?堙可・ツ・ツ・窶「sナスv窶ケc窶堙戸彙窶堋オ窶「テサツ、ナスg窶堋「窶堙懌?堋ケ窶堙アツ。
窶堋ェツ、ナ?テ藩?。窶堋ヲ窶堙??堋「窶堙??堙?ツ、ツ新窶堋オ窶堋ュナ?w窶堙ア窶堋セ窶儕ナ津ェ窶堙ー窶堋キ窶堋ョナスg窶堙≫?堙??堙昶?堋ス窶堙ァツ、窶堋ク窶堙≫?堙??o窶堋ヲ窶堋ウ窶堋ケ窶堙ゥ窶堙ァ窶堋オ窶堋「窶堙ア窶堙??堋キ窶堙ヲツ。

ツ湘ュ窶堙俄?愿コ窶怒ナ津ェ窶堙ー窶儕ツ照停?ーツサ窶堋キ窶堙冷?堋ォ窶堋セ窶堙?陳セ窶堙ュ窶堙ェ窶堙懌?堋キ窶堙仰。窶「ツキ窶堋「窶堋ス窶堙ァ窶堙??堋、窶堋ゥ窶堙按・ツ・ツ・ツ湘篠。
 
I agree that it is a good thing to put new vocab items to use as soon as you can.
But I think you may have rushed through some grammar stuff that would definitely benefit from a careful review. Given your age and Japanese learning situation, you do amazingly well and I admire your efforts and accomplishments. But consider stopping moving forward for a bit and do a little backtracking.
 
meverieJp said:
窶堋ア窶堋ア窶堙??堙個「ナ?Oツ坂?伉人ツ」窶堙最ステ・窶堙俄?ーツ「窶「テ?人窶堙ーナスw窶堋オ窶堙懌?堋キツ。

ナステ・窶堙俄?ーツ「窶「テ?人窶堙遺?堙ァ'ツ「ナ?Oツ坂?伉人ツ」窶堙娯?佚」窶堙ュ窶堙ィ窶堙可「窶ーツ「窶「テ?人ツ」窶堙ーナスg窶堙≫?堙?、窶笛窶堙溪?堋ス窶堋「ツ。ヒ?ェ窶敕岩?堙娯?愿コ窶怒ツ人窶堙俄?堙坂?ーツ「窶「テ?人窶堋セ窶堋ッ窶堙ーナスv窶堙≫?堙??堙?窶堋ス窶堋セツ「ナ?Oツ人ツ」窶堙??堋「窶堋、ナ陳セ窶杯窶堙ーナスg窶堋、ツ。 :eek:

ナス窶樞?堙債、ナスツゥ窶「ツェ窶堙固椎停?ーtナ耽窶堙ー窶冦窶堙ァ窶堙遺?堋「ツ人窶堋ェ窶伉ス窶堋ュ窶堙?、ツ青ウナ?m窶堙俄?慊敘致ナステヲ窶堙ェ窶堙??堋「窶堙遺?堋「窶堙?スv窶堙≫?堙??堙懌?堋オ窶堋スツ。ツ青ウナ?m窶堙遺?慊敘致窶堋ェ窶堋?窶堙ゥ窶堙遺?堙ァツ、窶堋コ窶堙絶?ケツウ窶堋ヲ窶堙??梅窶堋オ窶堋「窶堙??堋キツ。ツ(ニ箪ツーニ湛窶堙?ツ)

窶慊敘致窶堙遺?堙ァナ?テ遺?儕窶堙家脱ニ巽ニ鍛ニ置窶堙?陳ゥ窶「t窶堋ッ窶堙ァ窶堙ェ窶堙懌?堋キツ。窶氾。窶堋ヲ窶堙篠、窶堋ア窶堙姑探ニ辰ニ暖窶堙俄?堙哉竪ニ湛ニ男ニ鍛ニ誰ニ丹ニ停?ケツーニ致窶堋ク窶堙や?堙固椎停?ーtナ耽窶板ヲ窶堋ェ窶堋?窶堙ィ窶堙懌?堋キツ。窶堋ゥ窶堙遺?堙ィ窶禿岩?昶?吮?堋「ツ。ヒ?ェ窶敕尿B窶板ヲ窶堋ェツ坂?壺?堋「窶堙娯?堙哉但ニ辰ニ談ツ人窶堙??堋キツ(窶啀窶啗ツ≫?慊)ツ。ツ青シ窶ーツ「ツ州ツ人窶堙娯?吮??窶堙俄?堙債、ニ檀ニ辰ニ団ツ、ニ棚ツーニ湛ニ暖ニ椎?ニ但ツ、ニ湛ニ辰ニ湛ツ、ニ断ニ停?愴筑ツーニ誰ツ、 ニ湛ニ脱ニ巽ツーニ断ニ停?慊、 ニ知ニ停?ケニ脱ニ巽ツーツ、ニ稚ニ停?ーニ停?愴湛ツ、ニ湛ニ馳ニ辰ニ停?慊、ニ竹ニ停?ケニ暖ニ狸ニ停?ケ窶堙娯?堙吮?堋、窶堋ェツ、Aナ耽窶堋ェヒ?ェ窶敕披?伉ス窶堋「ツ、窶堋サ窶堙固スナク窶堙弘ナ耽窶堙??堋キツ。ニ棚ニ停?ーニ停?愴胆ツ、ニ遅ニ停?ケニ樽ツーツ、ニ辰ニ樽ニ椎?ニ湛ツ、ニ但ニ辰ニ停?ケニ停?ーニ停?愴檀窶堙?辰ニ耽ニ椎?ニ但ツ、窶ケt窶堙架?ェ窶敕披?伉ス窶堋「窶堋「窶堙娯?堙弘ナ耽ツ、窶堋サ窶堙固津」Aナ耽.

窶愬槌但ニ淡ニ但ツ人ツ、窶愬停?ーツ「ツ州ツ人窶堙固椎停?ーtナ耽ツ、窶堙??堙??堙?ナス窶披?堙??堋「窶堙懌?堋キツ。Aナ耽ツ、Oナ耽窶堙?ナ耽ツ、窶堋キ窶堙冷?堙??慊ッ窶堋カ窶堋ュ窶堋ョ窶堙ァ窶堋「窶伉ス窶堋「ツ。ツ青シニ塚?ーニ陳哉鍛ニ恥窶堙??昶?卍人窶堙姑但ニ陳?椎?ニ谷ツ人窶堙個渉ュ窶堙遺?堋「Bナ耽窶堋ェツ、窶愬槌塚?ーニ陳哉鍛ニ恥ツ、ニ暖ニ停?ケニ坦ツ、ニ但ニ停?ーニ置窶堙個坂?伉々ツ、ニ陳哉歎ニ但ツ、窶吮??ツ坂?伉、ナ?テ伉坂?伉、窶愿コ窶怒ツ、窶堙糧暖ニ段ニ停ぎツ、ニ耽ニ辰窶堙??堋ゥツ、Bナ耽窶堙坂?啣窶唹ツ≫?懌?堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶啌窶唹ツ≫?懌?堙懌?堙??堙娯?板ヲ窶堙??堋キツ。

窶堙吮?堋ゥ窶堙姑但ニ淡ニ但ツ人窶堙??。窶堙≫?堙?、ニ辰ニ停?愴檀ツ人窶堙弘ナ耽窶堙?ナ耽窶堋セ窶堋ッ窶伉ス窶堋「ツ(Aナ耽窶堋ェツ渉ュ窶堙遺?堋「ツ)ツ。窶愬槌但ニ淡ニ但ツ人窶堙架?「窶彖ナスq窶廬窶堙嫁?テ麺廣窶堋オ窶堙??堋「窶堙ゥ窶堙娯?徒窶「テ??忱ツ人窶堙坂?堙吮?堙??堙ア窶堙??啀窶唹窶唹ツ≫?廾ナ耽窶堋ゥ窶堙吮?堙??堙ア窶堙??啀窶唹窶唹ツ≫?廣ナ耽ツ。Bナ耽窶堙坂?堙吮?堙??堙ア窶堙??堙娯?徒窶「テ??忱ツ人窶堙娯?吮??窶堙俄?堙坂?堙懌?堙≫?堋ス窶堋ュ窶堋「窶堙遺?堋「ツ。

窶堋ア窶堙ェ窶堙ーナ陳ゥ窶堙??堙?ツ、窶慊ッ窶堋カナ椎停?ーtナ耽窶堙姑丹ニ停?ケツーニ致窶堙個坂?伉々窶堙坂?「ツカ窶ーツサ窶堙?考窶堋ヲ窶「テサ窶堋コ窶堙ア窶堋コ窶堙アヒ?。窶堋、ツ。ニ辰ニ耽ニ椎?ニ但ツ人窶堙?辰ニ樽ニ椎?ニ湛ツ人窶堙坂?堋コ窶堙ア窶堋コ窶堙アナス窶披?堙??堋「窶堙遺?堋「窶堙娯?堙俄?慊敘致窶堙最ス窶披?堙??堋「窶堙ゥツ。ニ陳哉歎ニ但ツ人ツ、ニ但ニ停?ーニ置ツ人ツ、窶吮??ツ坂?伉人窶堙??愿コ窶怒ツ人窶堙?ツ、ナス窶披?堙??堋「窶堙遺?堋「窶堙娯?堙可、窶堋ェナ椎停?ーtナ耽窶板ヲ窶堋ェナス窶披?堙??堋「窶堙ゥツ。ニ棚ニ停?ーニ停?愴胆ツ人窶堙??徒窶ーツ「ツ人窶堙債青ォナ?iツ、窶「ツカ窶ーツサツ、ナ陳セナ津ェ窶堙??「窶彖ナスq窶堙坂?堙??堙??堙?ナス窶披?堙??堋「窶堙ゥ窶堙娯?堙俄?慊敘致窶堋ェヒ?。窶堋、ツ。

ツ(ナ椎停?ーtナ耽窶堙姑但ニ辰ニ断ニ但窶堙債、ツ「ナ椎停?ーtナ耽ツ静ィ窶堋「ツ」窶堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶敖ュツ湘銀?堋オ窶堙??堙ゥ窶堙?スv窶堋、窶堙娯?堙?、窶堋ア窶堙ェ窶堙ー窶登窶禿??堋キ窶堙ゥ窶堙俄?堙債静ィ窶堋「ナスY窶ケテ??堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶堙や?堙披?堋キ窶堋オ窶堋ゥ窶堙遺?堋「窶ケC窶堋ェ窶堋オ窶堙懌?堋キツ。good luckツ)

ツ静ィ窶堋「窶堙才彑窶板昶?廬窶堙按(ニ陳哉淡ニ谷ニ停?ケツ)窶堋ア窶堙??堙??堙坂?堙遺?堋「ツ。窶堋ッ窶堙ェ窶堙?、窶堋「窶堙ォ窶堙ア窶堙按静ィ窶堋「ツ(窶氾。窶堋ヲ窶堙寂?慊ョ窶「ツィツ静ィ窶堋「ツ、ナ椎停?ーtナ耽ツ静ィ窶堋「窶堙遺?堙?)窶堙ーツ信窶堋カ窶堙ゥ窶堋ゥ窶ケツサ窶督。窶堋ェ窶堋?窶堙ゥ窶愿コ窶怒ツ人窶堙坂?敕アツ湘ュ窶堙俄?伉ス窶堋「窶堙?スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋キツ。窶斗窶堙個坂?倪?堙遺?堙ァ窶堙吮?堙??堙ア窶堙?0窶扼窶佚」窶堙個鞘?披?堙固スq窶堋オ窶堋ゥツ信窶堋カ窶堙遺?堋「ツ。窶堋サ窶堙ェ窶堙債「窶伉ス窶堋ュ窶堙娯?愿コ窶怒ツ人窶堙才彑窶板昶?廬窶堙??堙坂?堙遺?堋「ツ」窶堙??斗窶堋ェナ陳セ窶堙≫?堋ス窶堙娯?板昶?燃窶堙戸?ェ窶堙や?堙??堋キツ。

1) ナス窶樞?堋ェツ、窶ケツ焦ステー窶ーツョ窶堙??拵ナスh窶堋オ窶堙ーツ食窶堙冷?堋ス窶堙??堋ォツ、ニ棚ツーニ湛ニ暖ニ停?ーニ椎?ニ但ツ人ツ、ニ辰ニ樽ニ椎?ニ湛ツ人ツ、ニ谷ニ段ニ胆ツ人ツ、ニ但ニ陳?椎?ニ谷ツ人ツ、窶伉オ窶堙≫?堙?、窶ケテェ窶卩ス窶堙ー窶堙や?堙披?堋オ窶堋ス窶堙ヲ窶堋、窶堙闇?テァ窶堙ー窶堋ウ窶堙ェ窶堋スツ。窶氾冷?堙可催?窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堋スニ棚ツーニ湛ニ暖ニ停?ーニ椎?ニ但ツ人窶堙債、窶堋「窶堋キ窶堙ーヒ?壺?慊ョ窶堋オ窶堙?ス窶樞?堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶板」窶堙ェツ、ニ辰ニ樽ニ椎?ニ湛ツ人窶堙債、ナス窶樞?堋ェツ食窶堙冷?堙??堙ゥ窶堙??堋ア窶堙ォ窶堙固ステ環真窶堙懌?堙?ステヲ窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堋スツ。-->ナス窶樞?堙坂?禿ャ窶敕伉人窶堙??堋キ窶堋ゥツ?

2) ナスツ昶?堋ソ窶ケA窶堙ィ窶堋キ窶堋オ窶堙ー窶敞停?堋ィ窶堋、窶堙??堋オ窶堋ス窶堙ァツ、ナ停┐窶堋サ窶堋、窶堙闇?テァ窶堙ー窶堋オ窶堋ス窶堙娯?堙?、ツ「ツ好窶堋ォ窶堋カ窶堙。窶堙遺?堋「窶堙個?ツ」窶堙?陳セ窶堙≫?堋ス窶堙ァツ、ツ「ツ青カ窶ケ窶コ窶堙遺?堙ア窶堋ゥツ食窶堙冷?堙ァ窶堙ェ窶堙遺?堋「窶堙ヲツ。ニ弛ニ誰ニ弾ニ椎?ニ但窶堋ェ窶堋「窶堙≫?堙鞘?堋「窶堙?」窶堙?陳セ窶堙ュ窶堙ェ窶堋スツ。-->窶督ウ窶ケテ崘スツコヒ?ァ窶堋ソ窶堙??堋キ窶堋ゥツ?

3)ツ「窶堋「窶堙や?堋ゥナ蓄窶愿キ窶堙ーツ食窶堙冷?堙??堙昶?堋ス窶堋「窶堙遺?塲クツ」窶堙?陳セ窶堙≫?堋ス窶堙ァツ、窶氾「窶堋ス窶堋「ナ?テァ窶堙?。テ俄?堙懌?堙ェ窶堋スツ。-->ナス窶樞?堋ェ窶禿ャ窶敕伉人窶堋セ窶堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶堙??堋キ窶堋ゥツ?

窶伉ス窶堋ュ窶堙娯?ーツ「窶「テ?人窶堙債、窶愿≫?「テ岩?堙俄?ーpナ津ェナ地窶堙娯?堙吮?堋、窶堙債、窶慊ョ窶「ツィナ陳?窶藩懌?堙俄?ケC窶堙俄?堋キ窶堙ゥツ人窶堋ェ窶伉ス窶堋「ツ。ニ遅ニ淡ニ耽ニ椎?ニ但ニ停?懌?堙個人窶堋セ窶堙ア窶堋セ窶堙ア窶伉ス窶堋ュ窶堙遺?堙≫?堙??堋ュ窶堙ゥツ。窶愿≫?「テ岩?堙家辰ニ樽ニ椎?ニ湛窶堙?。窶堋サ窶堙ェヒ?按湘」ツ、ナ蓄ツ、ニ辰ニ停?ケニ谷窶堙??拵窶堙坂?愿≫?「テ岩?堙按「窶慊ェ窶堋「窶堋「ツ、ツ人ナ?テ披?堙娯?認窶堙娯?慊ョ窶「ツィツ」窶堙?スv窶堋、ツ人窶堋ェ窶伉ス窶堋「ツ。窶愿コ窶怒ツ人窶堙?ナ陳「窶堋ゥ窶扠窶堙ーツ食窶堙冷?堋ス窶堋「ツ。窶慊ッ窶堋カツ考窶堋ヲ窶「テサツ。ナ陳「窶堙??扠窶堙ヲ窶堙ィツ、ナ蓄窶堋ゥ窶拵窶堙娯?堙吮?堋、窶堋ェ窶慊ェ窶堋「窶堋「窶慊ョ窶「ツィ窶堙??堋キツ。窶斗窶堙坂?堋?窶堙懌?堙ィ窶ケC窶堙俄?堋オ窶堙遺?堋「窶堋ッ窶堙??堙仰。窶愿倪?堙??ケツ坂?堙?ツ、ナ陳「窶堋ゥ窶扠窶堙ヲ窶堙ィ窶拆窶堋ェ窶佚・窶堋ォ窶堋ュ窶堙?、窶慊ェ窶堋ェ窶堋「窶堋「窶堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶堙仰。窶堋サ窶堋、ナスv窶堙≫?堋ス窶堙ァツ、窶堙?窶堋、窶堋キ窶堙冷?堙??堙娯?愿キツ食窶堙冷?堙遺?堋「ツ。

ツ青カ窶ケ窶コ窶堙俄?堙や?堋「窶堙?、窶堋サ窶堙個人ツ々窶堙娯?敖ス窶ーナセ窶氾??堋ュ窶堙ュ窶堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶堙遺?堋「ツ。窶堋ア窶堙姑探ニ辰ニ暖窶堙娯?卍イツ債ク窶堙固停?ケ窶ーテ岩?堙債「ナステオナスi窶堋ゥナスhツ身ツ」ツ、窶ーツ「窶「テ?人窶堙俄?堙??堙≫?堙??ェ窶敕板好窶堋ォ窶堙遺?愿コ窶怒窶板ソ窶板昶?堋セ窶堋ゥ窶堙ァツ。ナ停┐窶堋「ツ人窶堙?窶堋「窶堙ゥ窶堋ッ窶堙?、ナステオナスi窶堋ェナ停┐窶堋「窶愿コ窶怒ツ人窶堙??慊ッ窶堋カ窶堋ュツ、窶氾。ナ?O窶堋セ窶堙?スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋キツ。
 
Gaijinian said:
ツ鞘?「ナ陳セ窶堋?窶堙ィ窶堋ェ窶堙??堋、ツ。窶ーテー窶堙≫?堙??堙懌?堋キツ。ニ探ニ鍛ニ鱈ツ、ナ断ナスツヲ窶堋オ窶堙遺?堋「窶「テサ窶堋ェ窶氾??堋ゥ窶堙≫?堋ス窶堙??堋キ窶堙仰。 😊

窶「ツ≫?凖岩?堙遺?堙ァ窶堋サ窶堙ア窶堙遺?堙可・ツ・ツ・窶「sナスv窶ケc窶堙戸彙窶堋オ窶「テサツ、ナスg窶堋「窶堙懌?堋ケ窶堙アツ。
窶堋ェツ、ナ?テ藩?。窶堋ヲ窶堙??堋「窶堙??堙?ツ、ツ新窶堋オ窶堋ュナ?w窶堙ア窶堋セ窶儕ナ津ェ窶堙ー窶堋キ窶堋ョナスg窶堙≫?堙??堙昶?堋ス窶堙ァツ、窶堋ク窶堙≫?堙??o窶堋ヲ窶堋ウ窶堋ケ窶堙ゥ窶堙ァ窶堋オ窶堋「窶堙ア窶堙??堋キ窶堙ヲツ。

ツ湘ュ窶堙俄?愿コ窶怒ナ津ェ窶堙ー窶儕ツ照停?ーツサ窶堋キ窶堙冷?堋ォ窶堋セ窶堙?陳セ窶堙ュ窶堙ェ窶堙懌?堋キ窶堙仰。窶「ツキ窶堋「窶堋ス窶堙ァ窶堙??堋、窶堋ゥ窶堙按・ツ・ツ・ツ湘篠。
窶敕。窶敖サ窶堋オ窶堋ス窶堙ュ窶堋ッ窶堙??堙坂?堙遺?堋「窶堙??堋キ窶堙仰。
ナス窶樞?堋ェナスg窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥナ陳セ窶杯窶堙債、窶愿コ窶怒ツ人窶慊ッナスm窶堙娯?愿コツ湘ュ窶ーテッヒ彙窶堙??堙最スツゥ窶漏窶堙
ナスg窶堙ュ窶堙ェ窶堙??堋「窶堙遺?堋「窶堋ゥ窶堙?窶堋オ窶堙ェ窶堙遺?堋「窶堋セ窶堙?スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋キツ。
窶堋ッ窶堙ェ窶堙??堙?ツ、窶堋「窶堙や?堙?窶愿コ窶怒ツ人ツ、Gaijiniansan
窶堙固?F窶堋ウ窶堙ア窶堙坂?「ツェ窶堋ゥ窶堙≫?堙??ーツコ窶堋ウ窶堙ゥ窶堙ヲ窶堋、窶堙?、ナス窶樞?堙最?'窶慊ョ窶堋オ窶堙懌?堋キツ。 🙂

窶堙??堙?ツ、ツ「テゥx窶堋キツ」窶堙娯?愬?ツ稿窶堙坂?堋「窶堋ュ窶堙ァ窶愿??堙ア窶堙??堙?ツ、
窶牢窶佚娯?堙??堋オ窶堙??凪?督。窶堋ェ窶板昶?ーテー窶堙??堋ォ窶堙懌?堋ケ窶堙アツ。 :sorry:
窶伉ス窶「ツェ窶堙??堙??堙?窶禿岩?昶?吮?堋「窶堙??堋キ窶堙ヲ窶堙仰。
窶ーpナ津ェ窶堙??堋ィナ?ティ窶堋「窶堋オ窶堙懌?堋キツ。
 
Elizabeth said:
窶敕。窶敖サ窶堋オ窶堋ス窶堙ュ窶堋ッ窶堙??堙坂?堙遺?堋「窶堙??堋キ窶堙仰。
ナス窶樞?堋ェナスg窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥナ陳セ窶杯窶堙債、窶愿コ窶怒ツ人窶慊ッナスm窶堙娯?愿コツ湘ュ窶ーテッヒ彙窶堙??堙最スツゥ窶漏窶堙
ナスg窶堙ュ窶堙ェ窶堙??堋「窶堙遺?堋「窶堋ゥ窶堙?窶堋オ窶堙ェ窶堙遺?堋「窶堋セ窶堙?スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋キツ。
窶堋ッ窶堙ェ窶堙??堙?ツ、窶堋「窶堙や?堙?窶愿コ窶怒ツ人ツ、Gaijiniansan
窶堙固?F窶堋ウ窶堙ア窶堙坂?「ツェ窶堋ゥ窶堙≫?堙??ーツコ窶堋ウ窶堙ゥ窶堙ヲ窶堋、窶堙?、ナス窶樞?堙最?'窶慊ョ窶堋オ窶堙懌?堋キツ。 🙂

窶堙??堙?ツ、ツ「テゥx窶堋キツ」窶堙娯?愬?ツ稿窶堙坂?堋「窶堋ュ窶堙ァ窶愿??堙ア窶堙??堙?ツ、
窶牢窶佚娯?堙??堋オ窶堙??凪?督。窶堋ェ窶板昶?ーテー窶堙??堋ォ窶堙懌?堋ケ窶堙アツ。 :sorry:
窶伉ス窶「ツェ窶堙??堙??堙?窶禿岩?昶?吮?堋「窶堙??堋キ窶堙ヲ窶堙仰。
窶ーpナ津ェ窶堙??堋ィナ?ティ窶堋「窶堋オ窶堙懌?堋キツ。

Japanese cheat "gaijin" by assuming they cannot speak Japanese without talking to them, it's "gomakashi!"
ツ(窶楼窶堙娯?倒窶禿ウツ:ツ)窶愿コ窶怒ツ人窶堋ェナ?Oツ人窶堙嘉ゥx窶堋オ窶堙??ーテッヒ彙窶堋オ窶堙遺?堋「窶堙??愿コ窶怒ナ津ェ窶堋ェ窶堙??堋ォ窶堙遺?堋「窶堙?塚??堋キ窶堙ゥ窶堙遺?堙ア窶堙?津凪?独停?ーテ卩スq窶堋セツ!
ヒ彙窶佚ィ窶堙可坂?。窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙?、窶堋ウツ、ナスg窶堙≫?堙??堙昶?堙ヲ窶堋、窶堙?スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋オ窶堋スツ。


窶ーpナ津ェ窶堙ー窶愿??堙ア窶堋セ窶堙ァツ、ナス窶樞?堙娯?「ツカ窶堙坂?堙「窶堙≫?堙鞘?堙ィナ?テ藩?。窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥ窶堙ア窶堙??堋キ窶堋ェツ、窶伉ス窶「ツェツ、窶堙遺?堋コ窶堋サ窶堙ア窶堙遺?堙可鞘?倪?堋「窶堋ス窶堙娯?堋ゥ窶板昶?ーテー窶堙??堋ォ窶堙ゥ窶堙娯?堋ゥ窶堙?窶堋オ窶堙ェ窶堙懌?堋ケ窶堙ア窶堙仰。

窶「テ岩?堙可、MIKEYCASH窶堋ェナ陳セ窶堙≫?堋ス窶凖岩?堙ィツ、ナス窶樞?堙娯?愿コ窶怒ナ津ェ窶堙娯?「ツカ窶邸窶堙坂?堙??堙≫?堙??堙?ツ債「窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙?、窶敕。窶敖サ窶堋ェ窶「K窶牌窶堋?窶堙ィツ、窶「ナ督習窶堋オ窶堙遺?堋ッ窶堙ェ窶堙寂?堙遺?堙ィ窶堙懌?堋ケ窶堙ア窶堙仰。 😌
 
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Elizabeth said:
窶敕。窶敖サ窶堋オ窶堋ス窶堙ュ窶堋ッ窶堙??堙坂?堙遺?堋「窶堙??堋キ窶堙仰。
ナス窶樞?堋ェナスg窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥナ陳セ窶杯窶堙債、窶愿コ窶怒ツ人窶慊ッナスm窶堙娯?愿コツ湘ュ窶ーテッヒ彙窶堙??堙最スツゥ窶漏窶堙
ナスg窶堙ュ窶堙ェ窶堙??堋「窶堙遺?堋「窶堋ゥ窶堙?窶堋オ窶堙ェ窶堙遺?堋「窶堋セ窶堙?スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋キツ。
窶堋ッ窶堙ェ窶堙??堙?ツ、窶堋「窶堙や?堙?窶愿コ窶怒ツ人ツ、Gaijiniansan
窶堙固?F窶堋ウ窶堙ア窶堙坂?「ツェ窶堋ゥ窶堙≫?堙??ーツコ窶堋ウ窶堙ゥ窶堙ヲ窶堋、窶堙?、ナス窶樞?堙最?'窶慊ョ窶堋オ窶堙懌?堋キツ。 🙂

窶堙??堙?ツ、ツ「テゥx窶堋キツ」窶堙娯?愬?ツ稿窶堙坂?堋「窶堋ュ窶堙ァ窶愿??堙ア窶堙??堙?ツ、
窶牢窶佚娯?堙??堋オ窶堙??凪?督。窶堋ェ窶板昶?ーテー窶堙??堋ォ窶堙懌?堋ケ窶堙アツ。 :sorry:
窶伉ス窶「ツェ窶堙??堙??堙?窶禿岩?昶?吮?堋「窶堙??堋キ窶堙ヲ窶堙仰。
窶ーpナ津ェ窶堙??堋ィナ?ティ窶堋「窶堋オ窶堙懌?堋キツ。
OK, back to regularly scheduled English. :sorry:

I asked a J-friend about the earlier post and as you said, Gaijiniansan, she got it is interesting when a Japanese person decides a foreigner cannot speak Japanese from seeing them but before they actually converse.
😌

窶伉ス窶「ツェ窶敕樞?堋ェナ陳セ窶堋「窶堋ス窶堋ゥ窶堙≫?堋ス窶堙娯?堙債 ツ「窶愿コ窶怒ツ人窶堙債、ナ?Oツ人窶堙?陳ゥ窶堙ゥ窶堙?、窶ーテッヒ彙窶堙?窶堋ケ窶堋ク窶堙俄?愿コ窶怒ナ津ェ窶堋ェツ出窶藩??堙遺?堋「窶堙?塚??堙溪?「t窶堋ッ窶堙ゥ窶堙娯?堙債、窶堋ィ窶堋ゥ窶堋オ窶堋「ツ」窶堙??堋「窶堋、窶堋ア窶堙??堙??堋オ窶堙・窶堙仰?
 
See, talk, or just think of a gaijin in general.
I don't know if I would say "interesting," but okashii seems OK.

窶伉ス窶「ツェ窶敕樞?堋ェナ陳セ窶堋「窶堋ス窶堋ゥ窶堙≫?堋ス窶堙娯?堙債 ツ「窶愿コ窶怒ツ人窶堙債、ナ?Oツ人窶堙?陳ゥ窶堙ゥ窶堙 ツ、窶ーテッヒ彙窶堙?窶堋ケ窶堋ク窶堙俄?愿コ窶怒ナ津ェ窶堋ェツ出窶藩??堙遺?堋「窶堙?塚??堙溪?「t窶堋ッ窶堙ゥ窶堙娯?堙債、窶堋ィ 窶堋ゥ窶堋オ窶堋「ツ」窶堙??堋「窶堋、窶堋ア窶堙??堙??堋オ窶堙・窶堙仰?
窶堋サ窶堋、窶堙??堋キ窶堙仰・ツ・ツ・ツ。
 
Maciamo said:
ツ静ィ窶堋「窶堙才彑窶板昶?廬窶堙按(ニ陳哉淡ニ谷ニ停?ケツ)窶堋ア窶堙??堙??堙坂?堙遺?堋「ツ。窶堋ッ窶堙ェ窶堙?、窶堋「窶堙ォ窶堙ア窶堙按静ィ窶堋「ツ(窶氾。窶堋ヲ窶堙寂?慊ョ窶「ツィツ静ィ窶堋「ツ、ナ椎停?ーtナ耽ツ静ィ窶堋「窶堙遺?堙?)窶堙ーツ信窶堋カ窶堙ゥ窶堋ゥ窶ケツサ窶督。窶堋ェ窶堋?窶堙ゥ窶愿コ窶怒ツ人窶堙坂?敕アツ湘ュ窶堙俄?伉ス窶堋「窶堙?スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋キツ。窶斗窶堙個坂?倪?堙遺?堙ァ窶堙吮?堙??堙ア窶堙?0窶扼窶佚」窶堙個鞘?披?堙固スq窶堋オ窶堋ゥツ信窶堋カ窶堙遺?堋「ツ。窶堋サ窶堙ェ窶堙債「窶伉ス窶堋ュ窶堙娯?愿コ窶怒ツ人窶堙才彑窶板昶?廬窶堙??堙坂?堙遺?堋「ツ」窶堙??斗窶堋ェナ陳セ窶堙≫?堋ス窶堙娯?板昶?燃窶堙戸?ェ窶堙や?堙??堋キツ。
窶突?椎スツ、ツ静ィ窶堋「窶堙?0窶毒凪?ー~ヒ?按湘」窶卍坂?堋ャツ最セ窶堙ア窶堙??堋「窶堙ゥツ人窶堙?窶堋「窶堙ゥ窶堙ヲ窶堋、窶堙??堋キ窶堙娯?堙?、窶堋ア窶堙固スY窶ケテ??堙ー窶登窶禿??堋オ窶堙ヲ窶堋、窶堙??堋オ窶堋ス窶堙ァツ、窶佚・ナスdナス窶凪?堙俄?堙遺?堙ゥ窶堙?スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋キツ。窶堙懌?堋クツ絶?敖人窶儕ヒ?岩?堙??堙坂?堙??堋ォ窶堙懌?堋ケ窶堙ア窶堙仰。ツ人窶ケCツ静ィ窶堋「ナスt窶堋ェツ出窶ー窶ー窶堋キ窶堙ゥTV窶敕披?枠窶堙?窶堋?窶堙ィ窶堙懌?堋キ窶堋オツ、窶堋サ窶堙固スY窶ケテ??堋セ窶堋ッ窶堙??堙遺?堋ュツ、窶敕樞?堙ァ窶堙ーTV窶敕披?枠窶堙可出窶ー窶ー窶堋ウ窶堋ケ窶堙??ーテ停?堋「窶堙??堋「窶堙ゥニ陳?断ニ達ニ但窶堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶堙?ツ、窶敖ス窶敖ュ窶堙ーナステウ窶堋ッ窶堙ゥ窶堙?スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋キ窶堙ヲツ。
ナ津つ人窶廬窶堙俄?堙債、窶堋サ窶堙ェ窶堋ェナ段窶ケC窶堙娯?凖??堋「窶「窶披?堙俄?堙遺?堙ゥ窶堙遺?堙ァツ、ニ谷ニ停?壺?堋ェ窶堙??堋ア窶堙?値ニ樽窶掫窶「窶ー窶堙≫?堙??堙ヲ窶堋、窶堋ェツ、窶堙??堋、窶堙??堙?窶堋「窶堋「窶堙??堋「窶堋、窶ケC窶堋ェ窶堋オ窶堙懌?堋キ窶堋ェツ。ツ青「窶堙娯?吮??ツ、窶堋サ窶堋、窶堋「窶堋、ツ人窶堙?窶「K窶牌窶堋セ窶堙?スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋キ窶堙ヲツ。窶弋ナ耽窶廬窶堙俄?堙債、Luis Viton freak 窶堙昶?堋ス窶堋「窶堙按人ツ。

Maciamo said:
窶伉ス窶堋ュ窶堙娯?ーツ「窶「テ?人窶堙債、窶愿≫?「テ岩?堙俄?ーpナ津ェナ地窶堙娯?堙吮?堋、窶堙債、窶慊ョ窶「ツィナ陳?窶藩懌?堙俄?ケC窶堙俄?堋キ窶堙ゥツ人窶堋ェ窶伉ス窶堋「ツ。ニ遅ニ淡ニ耽ニ椎?ニ但ニ停?懌?堙個人窶堋セ窶堙ア窶堋セ窶堙ア窶伉ス窶堋ュ窶堙遺?堙≫?堙??堋ュ窶堙ゥツ。窶愿≫?「テ岩?堙家辰ニ樽ニ椎?ニ湛窶堙?。窶堋サ窶堙ェヒ?按湘」ツ、ナ蓄ツ、ニ辰ニ停?ケニ谷窶堙??拵窶堙坂?愿≫?「テ岩?堙按「窶慊ェ窶堋「窶堋「ツ、ツ人ナ?テ披?堙娯?認窶堙娯?慊ョ窶「ツィツ」窶堙?スv窶堋、ツ人窶堋ェ窶伉ス窶堋「ツ。窶愿コ窶怒ツ人窶堙?ナ陳「窶堋ゥ窶扠窶堙ーツ食窶堙冷?堋ス窶堋「ツ。窶慊ッ窶堋カツ考窶堋ヲ窶「テサツ。ナ陳「窶堙??扠窶堙ヲ窶堙ィツ、ナ蓄窶堋ゥ窶拵窶堙娯?堙吮?堋、窶堋ェ窶慊ェ窶堋「窶堋「窶慊ョ窶「ツィ窶堙??堋キツ。窶斗窶堙坂?堋?窶堙懌?堙ィ窶ケC窶堙俄?堋オ窶堙遺?堋「窶堋ッ窶堙??堙仰。窶愿倪?堙??ケツ坂?堙?ツ、ナ陳「窶堋ゥ窶扠窶堙ヲ窶堙ィ窶拆窶堋ェ窶佚・窶堋ォ窶堋ュ窶堙?、窶慊ェ窶堋ェ窶堋「窶堋「窶堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶堙仰。窶堋サ窶堋、ナスv窶堙≫?堋ス窶堙ァツ、窶堙?窶堋、窶堋キ窶堙冷?堙??堙娯?愿キツ食窶堙冷?堙遺?堋「ツ。
horses are friends??? Why do they kill horses on horse racing then? Help race horses!
I actually asked the brit how they deal with inferior racehorses and she said "we just shoot them down". :eek:

My point is they should have known some of us eat horse and seen my eating horse as respectfully as I don't care if they are vegetarians/dog-eaters/cat-eaters or not. I actually didn't take it so seriously then (as I enjoy it) but, if I truly felt offended I would just tell them not to do directly in person.

Maciamo/テ。テ≫?卮停?禿娯?堋ウ窶堙アツ、ナスu窶堋ェツ坂?壺?堋「窶堙娯?堙坂?板ァ窶拮窶堙??堋キ窶堋ェツ、窶堋ア窶堙ェ窶堙ーナ?テ鯛?廾窶堋キ窶堙ゥ窶堙俄?堙債(窶吮??窶徨窶敖シ窶兌窶堙嫁?ヒ??慊ョ窶堋オ窶堙遺?堋「窶堙??堋キ窶堙ェ窶堙篠)ツ、窶廨窶堋ェ窶佚・窶堋ォ窶堋キ窶堋ャ窶堙ゥ窶ケC窶堋ェ窶堋オ窶堙懌?堋キツ。ナステ?ナ陳サツ青ォ窶堙娯?禿堋祥??堙坂?板ァ窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥ窶堙ア窶堙??堋オ窶堙・窶堋、窶堋ゥツ。
 
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窶突?椎スツ、ツ静ィ窶堋「窶堙?0窶毒凪?ー~ヒ?按湘」窶卍坂?堋ャツ最セ窶堙ア窶堙??堋「窶堙ゥツ人窶堙?窶堋「窶堙ゥ窶堙ヲ窶堋、窶堙??堋キ窶堙娯?堙?、窶堋ア窶堙固スY窶ケテ??堙ー窶登窶禿??堋オ窶堙ヲ窶堋、窶堙??堋オ窶堋ス窶堙ァツ、窶佚・ナスdナス窶凪?堙俄?堙遺?堙ゥ窶堙?スv窶堋「窶堙懌?堋キ

This fortune-teling business could be replaced by something similar but more scientific. For example, psychological studies, or personality tests. But there are always people in every country that prefer myths to reason. Yet I have the feeling that there are proportionally much more people believing in fortune-telling than science in Japan compared to Europe (note that I did not say "compared to the USA").

horses are friends??? Why do they kill horses on horse racing then? Help race horses!
I actually asked the brit how they deal with inferior racehorses and she said "we just shoot them down". :eek:

Well, my mother does horse riding (not races though), and never would anyone loving horses kill a horse so easily. I have never heard of people killing horse racing either. Then, real horse lovers do Equestrianism (dressage, show jumping, etc.), not races.

But don't forget that not everyone like horses (it's not one of my favourite animal) and Westerners also eat horse meat (especially in French speaking countries like France, Belgium or Quebec). According to Wikipedia (see link above), 153,000 tonnes of horse meat was consumed in Europe in 2001.

My point is they should have known some of us eat horse and seen my eating horse as respectfully as I don't care if they are vegetarians/dog-eaters/cat-eaters or not.

They know that some people eat horse also in the West. But I am sure the people you met would have reacted the same way in their own country if someone had eaten horse in front of them. I would never been allowed to order horse meat at the restaurant in my mother's presence - not even talk about it !

Maciamo/テ。テ≫?卮停?禿娯?堋ウ窶堙アツ、ナスu窶堋ェツ坂?壺?堋「窶堙娯?堙坂?板ァ窶拮窶堙??堋キ窶堋ェツ、窶堋ア窶堙ェ窶堙ーナ?テ鯛?廾窶堋キ窶堙ゥ窶堙俄?堙債(窶吮??窶徨窶敖シ窶兌窶堙嫁?ヒ??慊ョ窶堋オ窶堙遺?堋「窶堙??堋キ窶堙ェ窶堙篠)ツ、窶廨窶堋ェ窶佚・窶堋ォ窶堋キ窶堋ャ窶堙ゥ窶ケC窶堋ェ窶堋オ窶堙懌?堋キツ。ナステ?ナ陳サツ青ォ窶堙娯?禿堋祥??堙坂?板ァ窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥ窶堙ア窶堙??堋オ窶堙・窶堋、窶堋ゥツ。

Yes, I realise that.
 
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