A girl wrote a kanji with incorrect stroke order in a drama

[FinancialWar]

Google or Baidu 《现代汉语通用字笔顺规范》

it's an official government document stating the changes made to stroke order. Inside the document you will find the 方 character, along with 7,000 other characters that had their stroke orders changed. I don't know if you will be able to understand it though, as I don't know your level in Chinese. I can help you translate if you would like.

http://www.rcjy.gov.cn/Data/Sites/1/2014/201401140914现代汉语通用字笔顺规范.pdf


Okay I went to your reference. And found the character 方 on page 10. Which clearly shows the stroke order.

Where in the document, does it say that the stroke order for 方 has been changed in the year 1997 (or 1988)? The only time these two years have been mentioned are in the preface.

You're an absolute tool, using academic reference to deliberately lying to people and twist your arguments, and waste my time. The only person you're capable of fooling is Gaijinmiki, but she's just a kid.

 

[Hezam]

Knowing FinancialWar's behavior and background makes me sad because i realised that all Chinese are like him

 

[FinancialWar]

lol what are you doing here? You got anything to add to the conversation? As for as I know, you don't even study Japanese or Chinese. Go back to your quran and gaza talks.

 

[Hezam]

lol what are you doing here? You got anything to add to the conversation? As for as I know, you don't even study Japanese or Chinese. Go back to your quran and gaza talks.

It's true that i haven't add much about japan but at least i did not come here only to flame on Japan in a Japanese website, It's you who has to go back home and stop kids behavior, Grow up dude, Why are you in Australia anyway? Dady is harsh ? Bully Dad ?

 

[thomas]

Knowing FinancialWar's behavior and background makes me sad because i realised that all Chinese are like him

You're quite wrong Hezam, I know a lot of polite and courteous Chinese. Usually those who've spent a couple of years living in Japan. I'm tempted to say it's largely the environment, but that would discredit Australia. ;-)

 

[Hezam]

You're quite wrong Hezam, I know a lot of polite and courteous Chinese. Usually those who've spent a couple of years living in Japan. I'm tempted to say it's largely the environment, but that would discredit Australia. ;-)

i ment to generlize to see what FW reply i have some Chinese in my skype and they are amazing people.

 

[FinancialWar]

It's true that i haven't add much about japan but at least i did not come here only to flame on Japan in a Japanese website, It's you who has to go back home and stop kids behavior, Grow up dude, Why are you in Australia anyway? Dady is harsh ? Bully Dad ?

I'm not flame any one. I Just want to know if it is normal to write 方 (and maybe other Characters) the wrong way in Japan?

However, it seem to be now that even Chinese people don't know how to write it, eg WaxSausage and Gaijinmiki, assuming they are Chinese or taught by Chinese.

 

[thomas]

Anyhow, let's stay on topic and keep the profanity filter disengaged, gents!

 

[FinancialWar]

i ment to generlize to see what FW reply i have some Chinese in my skype and they are amazing people.

Of course we are amazing. Don't need you tell me that.

 

[letianchen]

lol even if say this was an accident by the people who were devloping the show ( btw Im pretty sure its intentional ive watched the whole series so I wouldnt be surprised, but this is irrelevant you could be right), isnt it a pretty bold generalization to say japanese people in general. The way you say it implies that the whole population is incapable of writing chinese characters lolol

 

[Hezam]

1- Your topic should be ( Do japanese people......? ) if you want to know
2- As you might know there are many people using Latin alphabet in their own way, For example: in Turkish C sounds like J.
Same goes on Arabic but why would that makes you uncomfortable ? i haven't seen such manner !

 

[Hezam]

Of course we are amazing. Don't need you tell me that.

Not you, Honestly you are the worst chinese i have ever seen, You are not doing any good to your people or your country reputation, You are spreading hatred and evil thoughts and your topics are the most boring and meaningless talk so far.

 

[FinancialWar]

You are spreading hatred and evil thoughts and your topics are the most boring and meaningless talk so far.

Then why are you so enthusiastic about my threads? I never forced you to read them, let alone post in them.

This thread is simply a forum to discussion Japanese Kanji education standard. If you don't like it, don't join in, plus, you don't even have the right to talk because you don't know crap about Kanji, you're simply here to insult me and start a flame war.

Plus, religion is more boring and evil then my threads, but you seem to enjoy them too.

 

[Hezam]

1- i love Japan and i can't stand reading your racist posts and false accusations.
2- i'm free to post, reply to any post without breaking forum rules.
3- i understand what your topic about and that's why i replied.
4- It's you who insult other people.

 

[WaxSausage]

http://www.rcjy.gov.cn/Data/Sites/1/2014/201401140914现代汉语通用字笔顺规范.pdf


Okay I went to your reference. And found the characterﾂ 窶｢ﾃｻ on page 10. Which clearly shows the stroke order.

Where in the document, does it say that the stroke order for 窶｢ﾃｻ has been changed in the year 1997 (or 1988)? The only time these two years have been mentioned are in the preface.

You're an absolute tool, using academic reference to deliberately lying to people and twist your arguments, and waste my time. The only person you're capable of fooling is Gaijinmiki, but she's just a kid.

You don't have to circle that character, I've already established that that's the correct order in a previous post. What I'm saying is, before this list was published (1997) by the government, the other "incorrect" way was taught in schools and books.

 

[nekojita]

New guys who haven't met FinancialWar - don't mind him, he was abandoned as a baby and raised by a family of trolls in the outback, and sometimes he has difficulty fitting into human society as a result. He's trying, bless his cotton socks. Be gentle with him.

FWちゃん♥、the only thing that video proves is that writing 方 with the wrong stroke order is an obvious enough mistake that the writers of the show thought their audience would not need it pointed out. Fiction is not data. Dogberry is not a data point on the misuse of words by speakers of Elizabethan English.

If you wanted to actually discuss this, bring some data on actual people. Otherwise, at least try to be a little more amusing. Lately your trolling has gotten a little stale - mix it up, try to break out of this rut you're in. 頑張って！

 

[FinancialWar]

Lol at Thomas and Hezam jumping at the bandwagon here, and neither of them actively study Japanese, makes you wonder why they think their opinion have any weighting on the subject matter.

I have seen plenty of Japanese people writing Kanji in wrong stroke order, wrong structure or even wrong Kanji. But I don't go around video taping them.

No, the mistake is not obvious. What is obvious is

1. Japanese stroke order is confusing as I have poined out in previous threads.

2. Japanese Chinese characters education is lacking.

3. Kanji are taught in the order of frequency instead of structure.

4. Lack of education on calligraphy. Which is manifested by the ugly writings and wrong stroke order.

5. Come up with actual content instead of insults, if this is the quality of the mods of this forum, what kind of example are you setting for members?

 

[nekojita]

Still not seeing any data. If you have any actual data on the ability of, say, high school graduates ability to write kanji, that would be of mild interest and I would be willing to discuss it. I am sure native speakers of Japanese sometimes make mistakes writing kanji. And native speakers of Chinese sometimes make mistakes writing hanzi, and native speakers of English sometimes spell words wrong. What of it?

I hope I am setting the example of not taking your trolling too seriously. I find you reasonably tolerable when one assumes that everything you post is a form of performance art.

 

[Toritoribe]

The very basic problem is the OP intentionally named the thread title for trolling. 大漁だったし釣果ももう十分でしょ？ Thread closed.

 

[thomas]

Totally agree with Toritoribe-san. Thank you.

Lol at Thomas and Hezam jumping at the bandwagon here, and neither of them actively study Japanese, makes you wonder why they think their opinion have any weighting on the subject matter.

A final remark: first of all, you wouldn't know whether Hezam or I actively study Japanese. Secondly, it has absolutely no bearing on our right to respond to something we deem highly inappropriate. What triggered Hezam's remark and my reaction was your usual arrogant display of disrespect for your fellow forum members.

Secondly, the only reason you haven't been banned yet - and I agree 100 percent with [MENTION=43778]nekojita[/MENTION] on this one - is that no one takes your pseudo-academic "linguistic" rants and your racial slur seriously. You are a slightly amusing troll, no more.

If you want to be taken seriously, show respect. It works wonders, online and offline.