letslearn 先輩 Joined 11 Sep 2013 Messages 890 Reaction score 14 3 Jan 2014 #1 Hi guys, In the following sentence, is the use of 願って a sentence conjunction meaning "to pray and"? 日本で家族が病気などをしないように願ってお正月「お せち料理」などを食べます. Which is better translation? In Japan, families in order that there is no illness, pray and eat new years 「おせち料理」. In Japan families pray for good health and at new year eat おせち料理. よろしくお願いします
Hi guys, In the following sentence, is the use of 願って a sentence conjunction meaning "to pray and"? 日本で家族が病気などをしないように願ってお正月「お せち料理」などを食べます. Which is better translation? In Japan, families in order that there is no illness, pray and eat new years 「おせち料理」. In Japan families pray for good health and at new year eat おせち料理. よろしくお願いします
Glenn 一切皆苦 Joined 8 Jan 2004 Messages 7,842 Reaction score 200 3 Jan 2014 #2 The second one is better. お正月「お せち料理」 feels strange to me, though.
Toritoribe 松葉解禁 Moderator Fifteen-year veteran Joined 22 Feb 2008 Messages 18,266 Reaction score 4,926 3 Jan 2014 #3 It's also possible to interpret that the -te form is used to indicate the reason/cause of the main clause there.
It's also possible to interpret that the -te form is used to indicate the reason/cause of the main clause there.
Glenn 一切皆苦 Joined 8 Jan 2004 Messages 7,842 Reaction score 200 3 Jan 2014 #4 They eat sechi-rōyri because they're wishing they don't fall ill? I guess that's pretty close to the first one. So... I suppose the answer is closer to "it depends on the context."
They eat sechi-rōyri because they're wishing they don't fall ill? I guess that's pretty close to the first one. So... I suppose the answer is closer to "it depends on the context."
Toritoribe 松葉解禁 Moderator Fifteen-year veteran Joined 22 Feb 2008 Messages 18,266 Reaction score 4,926 3 Jan 2014 #5 Hmm, "eat (in order) to pray" seems better than "pray and then eat" to me in that context. お正月 can be used without に, as same as 1月, 2月,,,.
Hmm, "eat (in order) to pray" seems better than "pray and then eat" to me in that context. お正月 can be used without に, as same as 1月, 2月,,,.
Glenn 一切皆苦 Joined 8 Jan 2004 Messages 7,842 Reaction score 200 3 Jan 2014 #6 Does it have to be consecutive actions? I thought it could be more like "do X, and also do Y."
Toritoribe 松葉解禁 Moderator Fifteen-year veteran Joined 22 Feb 2008 Messages 18,266 Reaction score 4,926 3 Jan 2014 #7 My interpretation is "do Y for X" (or "do Y while Xing" in this case, maybe).