にて・消えな

LewiiG · 23 Sep 2013

Hi, 2 quick questions...

1."ザナルカンドにて" = "To Zanarkand," a song. But what exactly is "にて？" Usually I would see へ in places like that.

2."消えな" I would see this as being short for "消えるな" except in this case the speaker wants the addressee to go away. What does it mean now?

Thanks.

Toritoribe · 23 Sep 2013

1)
Yeah, にて is more likely "at / in". It's the same as で.

2)
消えな never means 消えるな. It always means 消えろ. You can think it's a strong version of 消えなさい. (Maybe you are confusing 消えな with 消えんな?)

LewiiG · 23 Sep 2013

Toritoribe said:
1)
Yeah, にて is more likely "at / in". It's the same as で

I see. Yeah, it appears to be the "formal literary form" of で. So I guess it just sounds more formal and possibly more serious as a song title?

Toritoribe said:
2)
消えな never means 消えるな. It always means 消えろ. You can think it's a strong version of 消えなさい.

Okay. Is it just literally a short or a stronger ~なさい form or is it something completely different?

Toritoribe said:
(Maybe you are confusing 消えな with 消えんな?)

Yeah, I was. I see how I drew my incorrect conclusion.

Toritoribe · 23 Sep 2013

にて is the etymology of で. So, it has such nuance.

な is a shortened form of なさい.

LewiiG · 24 Sep 2013

I see.

As always, thanks Toritoribe

にて・消えな

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先輩

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先輩

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松葉解禁

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