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Glenn said:
You mean that conversation's been posted on the internet with an explanation? Incredible (or not, I guess).
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Actually, if you google with a few of the words from the "conversation", you'll get more than 400 hits! (Number varies depending on which parts you use as key words.)
Most of them are blogs and just quoting it, but I came across a webpage with "translation". I think I was really lucky. 👍
 
Originally Posted by nice gaijin
Personally, I find a light southern accent to sound very pleasant and soothing
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Oh then, it's like Japanese Touhoku ben, which is a local dialect in the North East part of Honshuu. Some people (mostly young people) probably think it's dasai to talk with Touhoku ben, but lots of people find it very heart-warming and soothing.

Originally Posted by undrentide
享子さん、このスレッド、とても面白いですね。
みなさんのコメントをなるほど～と思いながら読んでま す。
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うわぁ、undrentideさん、やっと参加してくれましたね～。待ってたんですよ！
うんうん！ 私もとても面白いと思っています。勉強になるし楽しいし、すごく楽しんでいます。
ぜひともundrentideさんも、質問する側、答える側、として、私と一緒に楽しんでくださいね！
よろしくお願いします！

Originally Posted by Mike Cash
CM DUCKS
MR NOT DUCKS
MR2 DUCKS
CM WANGS
OMR DUCKS
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OK! let me think....ummm
See'em ducks---See them ducks---See those ducks.
'Em're not ducks ---Them are not ducks---They are not ducks.
'Em are 2 ducks---Them are 2 ducks---They are 2 ducks.
See'em wangs---See them wangs---See those wangs.
Oh "em are ducks---Oh them are ducks---Oh they are ducks.

Whaaaat????? That doesn't make any sense. So am I the only one who are still clueless? C'mooooon! Mike Cash san, what is a wang?
 
"MR2 DUCKS" is actually "them are too ducks," not "them are two ducks." The "too" there is used for emphasis and contrast, I guess something like アヒルではあるよ！

"Wangs" is a variant pronunciation of "wings." :p
 
I would never have been able to guess OSAR.
Looks like they tend to drop the first consonant of each word there.
Maybe they say "Ello" instead of "Hello" and "Aiai" instead of "Bye bye"? 😆
 
thread title
The word "Jap"

post #18

I find it offensive. I once had a "friend" call my oldest son "Jap" when we were visiting my hometown. Needless to say he was looking up at my boots within seconds!

I can understand what the first two sentences mean. CC1 san's friend (probably he is not any more) called his oldest son "Jap" and he got angry. What I don't understand is the last sentence. What exactly happened when he heard him calling his son "jap"?

1)CC1 san's friend was looking upwards at CC1 san's boots because he raised his leg to kick him on the face? If so, why not "a boot" but "boots"? CC1 san raised both legs to kick his friend or he jumped and kicked?

2)CC1 san's friend immediately KO'ed by him? And he was seeing CC1 san's boots in front of his face because he was laying on the floor right beside CC1 san was standing? If so, then why "looking up" but not "looking at"? CC1 san's boots should be almost on the same level as the friend's eyes.

Whichever, did CC1 san actually kick or beat his friend up? Or is it something like a set phrase or a metaphor for something, like, showing anger?
 
It was just a colorful way to say that CC1 was offended by his friend, and knocked him on his ***. It's not exactly a turn-of-phrase, so the literal boots that he was looking at are kind of irrelevant.

Also, the unvoiced sounds in southern drawl are the soft consonants, like H's. So while you would likely hear 'ello, they wouldn't drop the "b" from "bye"
 
either figuratively or literally. CC1 would have to answer that question for sure.
 
Oh, either figuratively or literally. OK! nice gaijin san, that's enough I needed to know. Arigatou gozaimashita! Also thank you so much for the explanation about the unvoiced sounds in southern drawl. I see it so interesting!

Now, my question for today is about Timey san's signature.
It says "They say only the good die young. If that works both ways, I'm immortal."

My understanding is:
the first and last parts are
「よい人だけが若くして亡くなると言われています。」and 「私は不死身です。」
So I can get she is saying that she is bad, so she will never die, according to what people say.

What I can't really understand is what "both ways" refers to. Please teach me, my sensei tachi, I really would like to know. Onegai shimasu!
 
"both ways," in this case, is to say that if the good die young, then the bad must die old. Timey is saying that she (I do not know whether they are male or female, so I'll take your word for it) is really bad, because if bad behavior makes one's life longer, she is bad enough to live forever.
 
Yeah, it's like being inversely proportionate. I'm having problems coming up with a good general definition for it.
 
Ohhh, thanks, nice gaijin san and Glenn san for the quick replies.🙂

So "both ways" refers to:
1)The good die young.
2)The bad die old.

ということになりますか？
 
ありがとうございました！じゃ、仕事に行ってきま～す！
 
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[URL="https://jref.com/threads/is-it-ok-to-be-an-atheist-agnositc.22652/]Is it ok to be an atheist/agnostic?[/URL]

I just finished reading the whole thread and found myself still not knowing the difference between the words "atheist" and "agnostic". Neither of them believes in any religion then how are they different?

agnostic
【名】 不可知論者｛ふかち ろんじゃ｝◆神性の認識は不可能だと唱える人

atheist
【名】 無神論者｛むしんろんじゃ｝、不信心者｛ふしんじん しゃ｝

Since these definitions don't really shows the specific difference I checked some encyclopedias and googled, and now I'm more clueless. If anyone knows the difference, please teach me.

よろしくお願いします。
 
Kyoko_desu said:
thread title
Is it ok to be an atheist/agnositc?

I just finished reading the whole thread and found myself still not knowing the difference between the words "atheist" and "agnostic". Neither of them believes in any religion then how are they different?

agnostic
【名】 不可知論者｛ふかち ろんじゃ｝◆神性の認識は不可能だと唱える人

atheist
【名】 無神論者｛むしんろんじゃ｝、不信心者｛ふしんじん しゃ｝

Since these definitions don't really shows the specific difference I checked some encyclopedias and googled, and now I'm more clueless. If anyone knows the difference, please teach me.

よろしくお願いします。
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheist

Simply put an agnostic is a person that has no knowledge of God but may allow for the existance of one.

For example, it is possible to believe in God but to believe that knowledge about God is not obtainable.
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and an atheist would not believe in the existence of God.
 
Kyoko_desu said:
I just finished reading the whole thread and found myself still not knowing the difference between the words "atheist" and "agnostic". Neither of them believes in any religion then how are they different?
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Reminds me of a really bad joke: "What do you get when you combine an agnostic, a dyslexic, and an insomniac? Someone who stays up all night wondering if there really is a dog."

Anyway, although Hachiro pretty much answered, I'll throw my two cents in (hey, there's another idiom for you!).

Atheist: Someone who believes there is no God or gods. Usually someone who believes there is no supernatural at all (i.e. no spirits, souls, ghosts, demons, etc.).

Agnostic: Someone who isn't sure if there is a God or not. They accept that it is possible, sometimes even probable, but they also believe that there is no definite proof of God's (or any gods') existence.
 
Thank you, Hachiro san and GodEmperorLeto san!
No that I know what they are like, I think I am Agnostic.

Originally Posted by GodEmperorLeto
I'll throw my two cents in (hey, there's another idiom for you!).
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Oh yeah! I have seen this alot of times on this forum and I have been itching to use it somewhere in my post, but unfortunately I have not found a chance yet. I saw someone (I think it was epigene san, but cannot be sure) said "two yen" instead of "two cents" and I thought it was cute!
 
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thread title
Japanese Television and Nudity

Post #2
The gloves come off after midnight

At first, I was really confused because in my opinion, taking off gloves isn't nudity at all. Then I came to think like maybe in his country, the strip tease dancers take off gloves at the very end of the show (means after taking off all they are wearing), but it's a bit weird, isn't it? (unless you have some fetish for female hands or fingers, haha)

So I decided to check my best friend, my dictionary. The followings are the excerpts from it concerning the word "gloves"

gloves-off
【形】 手荒な

take the gloves off
（議論・闘争などに）本気で立ち向かう◆
【語源】ボクシング用のグラブを取り外して素手で殴ろうとする様子から。◆【同】take off the gloves

fight without gloves
手加減せずに戦う、本気で戦う、本気［真剣勝負］で立ち向かう◆【直訳】ボクシング用のグラブを取り外して素手で戦う

I figured out that wearing no gloves or taking off gloves has basically 2 meanings, which are
(1)rough treatment
(2)working on something very seriously, without allowance

Now I'm again confused, cus now I'm thinking he meant either (1)after midnight, Japanese sukebe TV programms show something rough, which reminds me of SM show, or, (2)they show more nudity without allowance, which means the women there show everything, or at least much more than before midnight.

Does anyone know what he really meant by "the gloves come off"?
 
Kyoko_desu said:
(2)they show more nudity without allowance, which means the women there show everything, or at least much more than before midnight.
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I vote for this one!
 
Kyoko-san, by "taking the gloves off" one would be setting the rules aside, or more simply ,no rules apply or one becomes more unconventional.


But in this case I would vote Number 2 as well; because the rules are loosened after hours on Japanese TV
 
aha, I didn't expect one of my own statements to be the cause for confusion! There are a few possibilities that strike me as plausible origins of the phrase:

In boxing, fights used to be completely bare-knuckled or with minimal hand-wraps of some sort. Later on (I think during the early 20th century), when the sport became more regulated (and some would say less brutal), gloves were introduced to protect the boxer's hands and to mitigate some of the damage they did. So saying "the gloves come off" is like saying the rules are set aside or ignored.

Another possibility is hockey, where the players throw their gloves off when they want to fight.

Lastly, it might be a throwback to the days when dueling was legal. To challenge your opponent, you would take your glove and slap him across the face.

These all relate somehow to the instigation of a violent act, but the modern use of the term isn't limited to violence. Other similar phrases include "pulling out all the stops," "no holds barred," and most recent, "oh it's on!"
 

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