他のスレッドで見つけた英語表現について質問するスレ ッド

[nice gaijin]

Yes, that's how I read Damicci's post to mean.

"Choir and I go way back" is alright, but it sounds a little bit odd; perhaps it's necessary to use a noun that is more specific. Using an actual name might help.

 

[Kyoko_desu]

Originally Posted by nice gaijin
Using an actual name might help.

OK! I will do that! Doumo arigatou gozaimashita! *bow*

 

[Kyoko_desu]

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Japanese parents

post #10

if one fish bites in a lake of fish then throw that one fish on your one dish.

I have no clue what this sentence means.
The "one fish" I typed in red is the same as the "one fish" in blue?

Why did he use "one" instead of "a" in that sentence?

よろしくおねがいします。

 

[undrentide]

Fish seems to be used for people you 'catch' as a partner (normally bf/gf?) in figurative way, like "there are plenty more fish in the sea" (which is "used to tell someone whose relationship has ended that there are other people they can have a relationship with" according to LDOCE.)

I guess the poster meant to say something similar to ﾂ渉ｶ窶吮??窶堙戸?ｪ窶ｰH窶堙債、窶禿ｷ窶吮??窶堙娯?愿ｱ窶ｰH窶堙俄?冤窶堋ｷ, though I don't know this particular expression (i.e. if one fish bites...) is commonly used or it is his original.

And yes, I believe the 1st and the 2nd "one fish" are the same fish.
The "one fish" that bites in the lake is referred as "that (particular) one fish" in the 2nd clause, I think it can be replaced by that one, the fish, it, etc. but by repeating the same wording (one fish), he emphasize the fish and it is only one, not two or more.
Saying "one" instead of "a" is another way to give some importance to the fact that it is only one.

"It might be only one single fish (a girl, in this case) that you get, but if you get one at all, why don't you take it and keep it, instead of hunting for another which you may not catch after all?" is what I feel the sentence implies.

That's my wildguess as a non-native.

 

[nice gaijin]

That is no idiom I've ever heard, it's probably best not to try to understand what that particular member posts. Even to native speakers what he posts is mostly nonsense.

If I had to guess, I'd think that it'd mean that if you can snag a potential mate, take them home (or to a love hotel).

 

[Kyoko_desu]

undrentide-san's guess
"It might be only one single fish (a girl, in this case) that you get, but if you get one at all, why don't you take it and keep it, instead of hunting for another which you may not catch after all?"

nice gaijin_san's guess
if you can snag a potential mate, take them home (or to a love hotel).

OK.... so this sentence is kind of nonsense and we could have different interpretations of it, then I should not dwell on it, desu ne?

Originally Posted by undrentide
Saying "one" instead of "a" is another way to give some importance to the fact that it is only one.

ということは、今回の問題の文は別として、a では無くて one とはっきりと書いてある場合は、日本語に訳す場合にも、忘れずに「ひとつの」、「一匹の」とか「一本の」としっかりと訳すことが大事ですね。これからそういうことに気をつけて英文を訳すようにしてみますね！
よ～し！がんばるぞ～！！

By the way, undrentide-san, thanks for the link for LDOCE.
It's a lot nicer than the 英英辞典 I have bookmarked.

 

[Kyoko_desu]

thread title
Here is the story

post #4

If you huff&puff and tell her you are going to kill any guy who gets near her, blah blah blah, and how much you "REALLY" love her, blah blah blah; ?

thread title
Japanese women...

Post #53

I've read some of those outrageous hilarious articles like a Japanese man was thrown off a plane for grabbing a Japanese stewardess's breasts, Japanese men blah blah blah nude go-go dancers blah blah blah " pee pooh " in night clubs.

Blah-blah-blah is something like 「何とかかんとか」or 「とか何とか」or 「～だの、～だの」in Japanese, right?

And, though it was my first time to see "huff and puff", I could somehow feel it refers 誰かが息を切らして必死で何かを言っている様子 by how the words "huff" and "puff" sound like.

Then what about "pee pooh"?
All I know about it is that "pee" can mean おしっこ and pooh うんこ.

I really like how those words sound in a rhythmic way and would want to learn how to handle them as natives do. So, first of all, please teach me what she meant by "pee pooh" in that sentence.

After learning it, I am going to try to write some English sentences by using those words and I would appreciate it if you correct them and make them sound really natural.

 

[leonmarino]

（笑）「ｐｅｅ ｐｏｏｈ」の意味は俺もハテナで～す！It sounds very interesting but I have no clue..

Anyways, "huff and puff" must mean something like 「一生懸命」（いっしょうけんめい）or in this situation maybe 「一所懸命」（いっしょけんめい） fits better. And it sounds true like the person huffing and puffing is using all his force or whatever he can to reach his goal.. 直訳は「はぁはぁ・ぜぇぜぇ」やね。（笑）

And "bla bla" is indeed 「～とか」, 「あ～やら・こうやら」, 「何とか・かんとか」or maybe even 「かくかく・しかじか」.（笑）

It's fun answering your questions as most of them are things I never think about!

ではまたあばよ～だ！

 

[ricecake]

blah blah blah .... basically means so and so

I merely repeated what I've read in entertainment tabloids some years ago and summed it up in 2 simple words " pee pooh ",for those sensational articles described how Japanese men request nude go-go dancers pee and **** before live audience in night clubs,even over-stretched the details to say some actually tasted it.

 

[srintuar]

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Blah-blah-blah is something like 「何とかかんとか」or 「とか何とか」or 「～だの、～だの」in Japanese, right?
And, though it was my first time to see "huff and puff", I could somehow feel it refers 誰かが息を切らして必死で何かを言っている様子 by how the words "huff" and "puff" sound like.
Then what about "pee pooh"?
All I know about it is that "pee" can mean おしっこ and pooh うんこ.

You are right about blah-blah, its like "かくかくしかじか"
"Huffing and puffing" is making lots of loud threats, complaining, etc.
From the ALC results, I think "騒ぎ立てる" is not a bad explanation.
脅かす is probably closer though.
I think the etymology of it is the fable of the "big bad wolf".
The Three Little Pigs - Wikipedia
Big Bad Wolf - Wikipedia
"pee pooh" is nonsense, never heard of it.
It might be advisable to stick to more coherent posts
それでは

 

[ricecake]

Then what about "pee pooh"?

All I know about it is that "pee" can mean おしっこ and pooh うんこ.

I really like how those words sound in rhythmic way and would want to learn how to handle them like natives do.So,first of all,please teach me what she meant by "pee pooh" in that sentence.

I've actually overheard some little white American kids say " pee pooh " for toilet visits,it's more a kiddie talk than an expression.

 

[Kyoko_desu]

Originally Posted by srintuar
I think the etymology of it is the fable of the "big bad wolf".

Ah! that story is well known in Japan too" It's called 「３匹のこぶた」and I even performed one of the piggies in a puppet play at the kindergarten. Thanks for the information, srintuar_san, I really liked not only "I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll blow" but also the phrase "chinny chin chin", LOL Oh well...ahem, sumimasen. Seriously, I like how the whole story sounds like, it does sound like a song, very rythmic to me.

Originally Posted by ricecake
I merely repeated what I've read in entertainment tabloids some years ago and summed it up in 2 simple words " pee pooh ", for those sensational articles described how Japanese men request nude go-go dancers pee and **** before live audience

OK, so "pee pooh" doesn't have any special meanings but just refers one of the dancers peed and pooed in the show, right? I thought it might be used just like blah blah with different sound to make the sentence sound a bit comical or something. Anyways, don't you hate those perverts? I'm really ashamed of those Japanese guys who do those gross things abroad, mostly in Asia.

Originally Posted by leonmarino
直訳は「はぁはぁ・ぜぇぜぇ」やね。（笑）

うんうん！ その「はぁはぁ・ぜぇぜぇ」の感じが言葉の発音によ～く出ているのがすごくおもしろいなって思ったんですよ～。

Originally Posted by leonmarino
It's fun answering your questions as most of them are things I never think about!

そっかぁ、 じゃあ、これからももっともっといっぱい教えてちょ～よ！（名古屋弁で失礼しました～！）

Now, I'm going to translate the following Japanese sentences into English, using "huff puff"and "blah blah". I hope I can finish and post it tomorrow. Please correct it when you see my next post.

This is what I'm going to translate:
私の友達のめぐみはいつも約束の時間に遅れてくる。
いつも約束の時間より１時間以上も遅れてやってきては、息を切らして必死で言い訳をならべたてるのだ。
「ごめんね～、今日は家を出ようとしたらちょうど母親から電話がかかってきちゃって。」だとか
「家を出ようとしたら雨が降りそうな天気だって気が付いて、かさを探してたら遅くなっちゃったの～。」だの
「服にあう靴が見つからなかった」「急に頭痛が始まった」「突然お客さんが来た。」とかなんとか
さまざまな言い訳を並べ立てて、いっそう私を怒らせることになるのだ。

 

[ricecake]

(1) OK, so "pee pooh" doesn't have any special meanings but just refers one of the dancers peed and pooed in the show, right ?

(2) Anyways,don't you hate those perverts ? I'm really ashamed of those Japanese guys who do those gross things abroad,mostly in Asia.

(1) Correct

(2) Every society has perverts,America has them too like pedophiles.Sporadic news headlines of Japanese men's behaviours at home or elsewhere in Asia only re-enforce extreme anti-Japan Chinese mass media's frequent depiction of " sexually perverted " Japanese male species.Other Asian nationalities do regular " sex joints " without stir-up local social disturbance,unlike Japanese counterparts.

 

[nice gaijin]

sorry for the late reply, I got distracted halfway through writing it:

pee and poo are childish expressions for urination and defecation, but I've never heard them side by side. I'm guessing, that you were just referring to some of the dirtier fetishes you've heard of, ricecake?

blah blah blah is filler text for when the speaker either doesn't remember or doesn't want to give the whole story for one reason or another. It also gives the impression that the speaker doesn't really care about the content they are omitting. There is a famous episode of Seinfeld where they used "yadda yadda" for the same purpose.

Although I can see "huff and puff" being used in a similar way as 一生懸命, I think it is usually describing a fruitless effort, and in most cases, getting upset and blustering (I like 騒ぎ立てる, in this case). A direct example I could think of in Japanese is ほっぺたを膨らます, which is what some people do when they're upset or pouting. でもシチュエーションによって違いますね。

 

[ricecake]

Anyways,don't you hate those perverts ?

Seriously,do those perverted Japanese guys really exist in Japan society like feed themselves with mouthful of nude go go dancer's " feces " in night club ? I for one never bought into this type of anti-Japanese extremism.I now recall my initial reaction to the article was,these fellow Chinese hate them to their bones and then I with many doubts of-course.

There were a few newspaper reported cases of mentally disturbed Chinese middle-aged guys stole women underwears in Hong Kong,none ever purchased " soiled panties " though.

 

[nice gaijin]

I've heard some pretty disturbing stories about people from all nations, it just seems that the stories about Japanese are more widespread than their neighbors and western counterparts. This could be due to animosity towards Japanese, or that they are more cavalier or less embarrassed about their sexuality. That's all I'll say on that for now on that subject, to keep things from going too off-topic.

 

[ricecake]

it just seems that the stories about Japanese are more widespread than their neighbors and western counterparts.This could be due to animosity towards Japanese.

Yep ... I know our printed mass media outlets have never-ending crusade,nail :nihonjin: on sexual peculiarity for

 

[Kyoko_desu]

Originally Posted by nice gaijin
There is a famous episode of Seinfeld where they used "yadda yadda" for the same purpose.

Ahaha, yadda probably sounds very much like the Japanese word やだ, doesn't it? Wish to hear someone saying it in real and I think I will go look for some sound file somewhere later.

I think both blah blah blah and yadda yadda yadda are generally used colloquially, so maybe I should use yadda instead of blah. Do you know why? Hehe, it's my L and R problem. I need to be really really careful when I pronounce L's and R's, and when I'm not careful enough, I mess them up as you can probably easily imagine if you have any Japanese friend. I do not want to entertain people by saying bra bra bra (ブラジャー、ブラジャー、ブラジャー） when I mean to say blah blah blah, hehehe.

Now here's my sakubun (作文).

私の友達のめぐみはいつも約束の時間に遅れてくる。いつも約束の時間より１時間以上も遅れてやってきては 、息を切らして必死で言い訳をならべたてるのだ。
「ごめんね～、今日は家を出ようとしたらちょうど母親 から電話がかかってきちゃって。」だとか 「家を出ようとしたら雨が降りそうな天気だって気が付 いて、かさを探してたら遅くなっちゃったの～。」だの 「服にあう靴が見つからなかった」「急に頭痛が始まっ た」「突然お客さんが来た。」とかなんとかさまざまな言い訳を並べ立てて、いっそう私を怒らせる ことになるのだ。

My friend Megumi is never punctual and always arrives late. She always shows up more than one hour late, huffs and puffs and tells me all sorts of lame excuses like "Sorrrrrrry, when I was about to leave, I got a phone call from Mom.", "When I was gonna leave the house, I noticed it was gonna start raining and I went back into the house and was looking for an umbrella." , "I couldn't find shoes that fit my dress.", "I had a sudden headache.", "An unexpected guest suddenly came." blah bla blah and ends up getting me even angrier.

Would anyone please correct the grammatical mistakes and if you find some phrases looking unnatural, please let me know better expressions. (I hope I didn't make any misspellings or typos, but if there's any, correction is always welcome.) The 2nd sentence, which starts with "She always shows up more than blah blah blah.", is really long, I just noticed, but this is supposed to be a spoken conversation, and I thought it's alright.

よろしくお願いします。

 

[nice gaijin]

An interesting variant of "huff and puff" is "huffing and puffing," which can also mean someone is out of breath, as if your friend missed the train and ended up running to meet you.

Other than that, it looks pretty good. You even used "gonna" properly! One thing about punctuation, I would replace the periods after each excuse with commas, and remove the commas from between the quotes, like so:

"I couldn't find shoes that match my dress," "I had a sudden headache," "An unexpected guest suddenly came," blah blah blah and I end up getting even angrier than before.

 

[leonmarino]

My friend Megumi is never punctual and always arrives late. She always shows up more than one hour late, huffs and puffs and tells me all sorts of lame excuses like "Sorrrrrrry, when I was about to leave, I got a phone call from Mom.", "When I was gonna leave the house, I noticed it was gonna start raining and I went back into the house and was looking for an umbrella." , "I couldn't find shoes that fit my dress.", "I had a sudden headache.", "An unexpected guest suddenly came." blah bla blah and ends up getting me even angrier.

I'm no native speaker but this looks very fine to me!

One thing I'd do differently is instead of "I went back into the house and was looking for an umbrella" I'd say "I went back into my house to look for an umbrella" or even "I went back home to...". But the grammatical structure is good, I guess it comes down to personal taste what words to use in what order.

I also have a friend who is always too late.. Whenever I call him to ask him where he is his usual response is: "I was just about to put on my jacket!" and when he finally arrives: "I had to feed the cats!"... Grrr...

 

[Kyoko_desu]

nice gaijin-san and leonmarino-san, thank you so much for the correction!
Now my sakubun looks quite like an native's, doesn't it? Yatta!

My friend Megumi is never punctual and always arrives late. She always shows up more than one hour late, huffing and puffing and tells me all sorts of lame excuses like "Sorrrrrrry, when I was about to leave, I got a phone call from Mom," "When I was gonna leave the house, I noticed it was gonna start raining and I went back home for an umbrella," "I couldn't find shoes that match my dress," "I had a sudden headache," "An unexpected guest suddenly came," blah bla blah and I end up getting even angrier than before.

今日はじめて英文添削をしてもらいましたが、とてもいい勉強になったと思います。
機会があったら、またチャレンジしてみたいので、その時にはお手伝いをお願いします。

Originally Posted by leonmarino
I also have a friend who is always too late.. Whenever I call him to ask him where he is his usual response is: "I was just about to put on my jacket!" and when he finally arrives: "I had to feed the cats!"... Grrr...

わかるわかる、その気持ち！ 私たちはそういう人たちのことを「言い訳星人」(iiwake-seijin)とか「言い訳の国から来た男（女）」(iiwake no kuni kara kita otoko/onna)と呼んでます。（笑）

 

[nice gaijin]

hmm, "never punctual" and "always late" is a bit redundant. I would go with these few alterations as well:

My friend Megumi is never punctual. She always shows up more than one hour late, huffing and puffing and trying to feed me all sorts of lame excuses like "Sorrrrrrry, when I was about to leave, I got a phone call from Mom," "When I left the house, it looked like it would rain, so I went back home for an umbrella," "I couldn't find shoes that match my dress," "I had a sudden headache," "I had an unexpected guest," blah blah blah and I end up getting even angrier than before.

 

[Kyoko_desu]

おお！完璧を目指せばまだまだたくさん修正するところがあったんですね～。
trying to feed me all sorts of lame excuses
このfeed の使い方はなかなか日本人には思いつかないです～。目からうろこがポロリ！
An unexpected guest suddenly came. については、実は自分でもいかにも日本語英語っぽいな～って思っていたんです。
I had an unexpected guest. という形にするとずいぶん英語らしい英語になりますね！

文法が間違っていなくても、自然な英語と言えるにはにはまだまだほど遠い英文を作ってしまう私ですけど、ここで時々英文添削をしてもらって、少しずつ上達できればいいな～って思っています。
頑張りま～す！

 

[srintuar]

My friend Megumi is never punctual and always arrives late. She always shows up more than one hour late, huffs and puffs and tells me all sorts of lame excuses like

unless she is having a ﾆ樽ﾆ槌槌誰ﾆ樽ﾆ椎? that usage of "huff and puff" is backwards.
You cannot use it that way.

Maybe you could "huff and puff" about her always being late though, by making threats to not hang out with her anymore.

 

[Kyoko_desu]

Oh yes, you told me that in your last post、srintuar-san.
OK! Let me try again then!

(1)
私の友達のめぐみはいつも約束の時間に遅れてくる。
いつも約束の時間より１時間以上も遅れてやってきては 、私をキレさせるのだ。
私がギャーギャーと文句を言ったり、もうつき合わないと脅しをかけると、きまって言い訳を並べ立てようとするのだ。

My friend Megumi is never punctual. She always shows up more than one hour late and that really pisses me off. Huffing and puffing, I complain and threaten not to hang around with her any more then she tries to feed me all sorts of lame excuses like....................

(2)
私の友達のめぐみはいつも約束の時間に遅れてくる。
いつも約束の時間より１時間以上も遅れてやってきて、私が文句を言おうものならギャクギレし、「あんただって以前遅刻したことがあるだろう。」、だの「待ち合わせ時間をこんな早朝にするべきじゃなかった。」だの、「頭が痛い人の気持ちもわからないなんて冷たすぎる。」だの、どうのこうのと、必死になってわけのわからないことを並べ立てて自分を正当化しようとするのだ。

My friend Megumi is never punctual. She always shows up more than one hour late, and if I ever try to complain, she gets really mad and, huffing and puffing and tries to justify herself by telling all sorts of nonsense like "You have been late before," "We shouldn't set the wait time such an early in the morning," "You are too cold not understanding how a person with a headache feels," and blah blah blah.
I hope this time I used "huff and puff" more properly.