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[GodEmperorLeto]

Another possibility is hockey, where the players throw their gloves off when they want to fight.

Having been a hockey enforcer in high school, that's the first thing I think of when I hear the phrase.

Lastly, it might be a throwback to the days when dueling was legal. To challenge your opponent, you would take your glove and slap him across the face.

Actually, I don't know when that started. In the Medieval and Renaissance periods, you didn't slap, you just threw your glove on the ground, symbolizing a challenge. If the person picked it up, that meant he accepted it.

These all relate somehow to the instigation of a violent act, but the modern use of the term isn't limited to violence. Other similar phrases include "pulling out all the stops," "no holds barred," and most recent, "oh it's on!"

Or "oh, it is so on!" Had to add that emphasis there.

 

[nice gaijin]

Actually, I don't know when that started. In the Medieval and Renaissance periods, you didn't slap, you just threw your glove on the ground, symbolizing a challenge. If the person picked it up, that meant he accepted it.

ahh, wasn't there a point in time when slapping was part of the challenge? or is that just hollywood fantasy?

 

[Glenn]

I'm not sure, but the glove was actually a gauntlet back then, and that's where we get the expression "throw down the gauntlet," meaning to issue a challenge.

I'm pretty sure that the origin of "the gloves are off" lies more in boxing than anything else, and the meaning has already been explained.

 

[GodEmperorLeto]

ahh, wasn't there a point in time when slapping was part of the challenge? or is that just hollywood fantasy?

Possibly Hollywood fantasy, but perhaps it simply arose later in history, like when dueling was primarily with pistols.

 

[Kyoko_desu]

OK, mina san, arigatou gozaimasu, I now fully understand what the phrase means and how the phrase comes from. Now I'm thinking in what situation and how I can use it on Jref.

Originally Posted by nice gaijin
These all relate somehow to the instigation of a violent act, but the modern use of the term isn't limited to violence. Other similar phrases include "pulling out all the stops," "no holds barred," and most recent, "oh it's on!"

If I saw some poster starts insulting other poster with cuss words on the forum, I could post and say
"Oh, he took the gloves off." or "oh it's on!" ?

 

[Glenn]

I suppose you could, but I personally wouldn't. But I guess you were just joking about that.

 

[Kyoko_desu]

thread title
sexy japanese women

Post #127
Don't get your panties in a bunch.

This phrase somehow got me curious and I browsed some sites for the explanation and what I've found out is:

• Don't get your panties in a bunch.
• Don't get your knickers in a twist.
• Don't get your knickers in a knot.
• Don't get in a swivet.

All those sentenses above mean the same thing, which is in Japanese, ﾂ「窶堋｢窶堙ｧ窶堋｢窶堙ｧ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶堙按。ﾂ」or ﾂ「窶堋?窶堙ｭ窶堙??堙ｩ窶堙按。ﾂ」, and the first one is what American people usually say. I can imagine how irritating/annoying it would be if you were trying to put your knickers in a hurry and you'd twist them. Then how about getting your panties in a bunch? "In a bunch" means 窶堋ｽ窶堋ｭ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ, right? How could getting lots of panties be irritating?

Oh! and can anyone explain what the questoin and answer below mean?
Q. What happens if she does get her panties in a bunch and gets in a swivet.
A. She will probably have a cow. (No sexual connotation that Mrs. S. knows of.) SS

I have no clue why she will probably have a cow, and who is Mrs. S?

 

[Glenn]

I'll answer what I can.

"Bunch" in "in a bunch" doens't mean たくさん, but for something to be stuffed together, forming a ball, or something like that. I think they have the same origin, because if you think about a bunch of bananas, they're all together on the tree. Do you understand what I mean? I'm having problems explaining it. Anyway, if your panites were in a bunch you would get pretty irritated, which is what the phrase means. I don't know who Mrs. S is; I'm guessing there's some context missing or it's a reference to something that I have no idea about.

"Have a cow" is a set expression that means "freak out" or "be hysterical." People say "don't have a cow" when they want to tell someone to calm down.

I hope that answers your questions.

 

[Kyoko_desu]

Oh! "in a bunch" doesn't mean "alot" but does mean something like " in a knot" .窶堙≫?堙??堋ｱ窶堙??堙??堋ｷ窶堙仰？
Then yeah! I would get hysterical if my panties get in a bunch when I'm in a hurry. (Actually I have this kind of experience at work many times, in summer time. You know you sweat like hell at work in summer and you go and use the restroom in the break time (it's only 10 minutes) and you get your panties twisted because they are all sweaty but you'll get in trouble if you don't go back to your work in 10 minutes but you still have other things to do as well, like drink something, go to your fav co-worker and have a small chat and many many more..aaaagagaga!)ﾂ LOL

Well, thank you, Glenn san, for also explaining what "having a cow" means.
It's interesting because we Japanese see something 窶版ｽ窶堋ｿ窶吮?ｦ窶堋ｫ窶堙娯?堋?窶堙ｩ in "cow" because cows move slowly and they are resting and chilling all the time, but English speaking people think being hysterical is like having a cow.

 

[Glenn]

Oh! "in a bunch" doesn't mean "a lot" but does mean something like " in a knot" .ってことですね？

Yes! Why I couldn't think of saying it that way is a bit disconcerting, though.

Then yeah! I would get hysterical if my panties get in a bunch when I'm in a hurry. (Actually, I have had this kind of experience at work many times, in the summertime. You know you sweat like hell at work in summer and you go and use the restroom in the break time (it's only 10 minutes) and you get your panties twisted because they are all sweaty but you'll get in trouble if you don't go back to your work in 10 minutes but you still have other things to do as well, like drinking something, go to your fav co-worker and have a small chat and many many more..aaaagagaga!)ﾂ LOL

Actually, I have no idea what that's like. I have a different problem when I sweat a lot at work, but maybe we shouldn't discuss that here.

Well, thank you, Glenn san, for also explaining what "having a cow" means.
It's interesting because we Japanese see something 落ち着きのある in "cow" because cows move slowly and they are resting and chilling all the time, but English-speaking people think being hysterical is like having a cow.

Oh, having a cow is the same as giving birth to one, and there's nothing 落ち着きのある about that!

 

[Kyoko_desu]

Oh you don't know how tight girls' panties are?
When girls' panties are wet, it gets really hard to pull them up.

This is just an explanation desuyo! No sukebe connotation at all! :27:

 

[Kyoko_desu]

Originally Posted by Glenn
Oh, having a cow is the same as giving birth to one, and there's nothing 落ち着きのある about that!

Ah! Having a cow = Giving birth to one!
納得！ 説明をありがとうございました！

 

[Glenn]

Oh you don't know how tight girls' panties are?
When girls' panties are wet, it gets really hard to pull them up.

This is just an explanation desuyo! No sukebe connotation at all!

I must say that I don't really know how they are (at least not to wear).

それにしても面白い話題になったんですね、このスレ！（爆笑）

Ah! Having a cow = Giving birth to one!
納得！ 説明をありがとうございました！

どういたしまして。

 

[GodEmperorLeto]

It's especially insulting to say to a male, "Don't get your panties in a twist/knot/bunch". It is implying he's being overly emotional (i.e. acting like a girl) as well as wearing women's underwear.

 

[Kyoko_desu]

Oh yeah, I was wondering if it's OK to say that to a guy since panties are generally what women wear.

We can assume Spyder93090-san was really angry at yukio_michael-san when posted the message by reading that phrase, can't we? I hope he got his cool back by now though.

Doumo arigatou gozaimashita! GodEmperorLeto-san!

 

[GodEmperorLeto]

No problem Kyoko. I just remembered that it is also just as insulting to use against a woman because it is 1)very personal (referring to her underwear, which is an intimate part of her wardrobe), and 2)derogatory towards the fact that she is female, implying that because she is a woman, she is overly emotional.

Sorry I forgot about that, I guess I should have mentioned it. Now, it is not so insulting as people will automatically start hitting one another. No one would say, "Them's fightin' words," like in the Old West. But they are pretty mean.

 

[Kyoko_desu]

OK! GodEmperorLeto-san, I will use this phrase only when I am really p*ssed off at someone. Thank you very much!

Now I have another question.

thread title
Don't ignore the 'ignore list'.

Post #1

If we continue to have these confrontations featuring personal attacks where nothing short of "yo mama" is being said, we will start doing more than just deleting posts and giving bad reps.

kirei_na_me-san is saying that if they don't stop personal attacks, the admins/mods will start something more than deleting posts and giving bad reps. What I cannot understand is what personal attacks are that she described as "yo mama".

Does it have something to do with "yo mama jokes"?

 

[nice gaijin]

Kyoko-san, you don't have to be upset with someone to use the "panties" statement, its intent is to tell people who are already upset to calm down. The irony is that it's a kind of crude statement, and sometimes can serve to further upset the other person. Between friends, it's not that insulting, but used with strangers or fellow forum members that you aren't familiar with, it can be seen as a bit insulting.

For the next question, "yo mama" is most likely a reference to "yo mama" jokes, which came about from a trend of insulting someone's mother to piss them off. Kirei was talking about posts whose purpose was just to insult other members.

 

[Kyoko_desu]

Oh, wakarimashita, nice gaijin-san.
You know, I'm so itching to use the new phrases I learned here but using them in the wrong situation and to the wrong person could cause trouble. So thank you so much for giving me information like that!

Hey! I just checked my dictionary for English words for 「ウズウズしている」and found this phrase "have ants in one's pants". I think it's as funny as "Don't get your panties in a bunch"! hehehe

Ahhh, I just can't wait to use those expressions in real!

 

[Kyoko_desu]

今日もよろしくお願いします！

thread title
Maciamo FAQ

Post #6

It's really a love-hate relationship, "not love it or hate it.

What's the difference between "love-hate" and "love it or hate it"?

love-hate = 好きでもあり、同時に嫌いでもある ?
love it or hate it = 好きじゃないから嫌っている ?

Was Maciamo-san saying it's not like "He hates Japan because he doesn't love it" but "he hates it but at the same time he loves it." ?

I just remembered 50 Cent's song "Hate it or love it"! Maybe I should go search for the lyrics but I doubt I will be able to understand any rap lyrics.
So please, anyone, teach me the difference between those two expressions.

 

[leonmarino]

love-hate = 好きでもあり、同時に嫌いでもある ?
love it or hate it = 好きじゃないから嫌っている ?

Well you pretty much summed it up well Kyoko! A "love-hate relationship" could be translated as a 愛憎関係（あいぞうかんけい）, whereas "love it or hate it" is either the one or the other: love or hate.
下手な説明でスンマセン！あばよ～！

 

[Kyoko_desu]

ほんと？ だいだいは、あたってた？ やったぁ！ ありがとうございます、leonmarinoさん！

Maciamo さんは、日本でいろいろと一生懸命に努力をしたのに、報われないことがあったりして、こういう複雑な心境になっているんだと思います。 でも、彼が日本のことを「嫌い」だけじゃなくってよかったぁ。

Originally Posted by leonmarino
下手な説明でスンマセン！あばよ～！

ぜんぜん下手なんかじゃないよん！ エクセレントだよ～！「あばよ～」なんて言わないで、これからもどんどん教えてくださいね～！！(あ～、leonmarino さんの日本語すっごく楽しいね！いつもにっこりさせてくれてありがとう！）

 

[Kyoko_desu]

thread title
I ask it here because i don't trust google...

Post #9

me and google go waaaay back.

Literally translated, this sentence would be 私とグーグルは大昔に行きます, but it would not make sense, would it? Does it suggest that he met (found) Google a long time ago, and it refers to something like 私とグーグルの歴史は長い。or 私がグーグルに出会ってからかなりの期間がたちました。? I really don't feel I'm correct and suspect it has some other meaning.

Seemingly difficult words...like... "dehydration" or "agglutinative" and such are not that hard to get the meaning by checking a dictionary since they only have one or two meanings, but these kinds of familiar words such as "way", "go", "back", "get" or "take" are, for me, the most difficult vocab. of all the English words. :clueless:

 

[nice gaijin]

to say we "go way back" is like to say "we have a lot of history," and usually infers a positive relationship, but not always. It means that the subjects have been acquainted for a long time in one capacity or another, and as demonstrated by your example, aren't always just relationships between people.

 

[Kyoko_desu]

nice gaijin-san, arigatou gozaimasu!
In the case of Damicci-san's post, it was used as a positive relationship, right? He found Google a long time ago and he has been liking it, desu ne?

And since it can be used for relationships between people and non-people,
I can say like:
"Choir and I go way back"? Or "Singing in a choir and I go way back"?
because I have been singing alto in a choir for a long time now and I really love it.