飾り / 大ビーカー / はず / 憎い / 頼むよ

[eeky]

Hi


1. やがてジェラシーは叙事詩の１ページを飾り。

Why 飾り and not 飾る? (There is no more context; it is an isolated example sentence.)


2. スネイプときたら、たったいま、誰かが大ビーカーになみなみと『骨生え薬』を飲ませたばかりという顔を していた。

Is 大ビーカーになみなみと『骨生え薬』 a noun phrase, the object of 飲ませた? Is there an implied but omitted verb in 大ビーカーになみなみと『骨生え薬』, meaning something like "filled (with)"?


3. 先生方もこのお祝いのムードにはまりたいと思っていらっしゃるはずです！

Who is the subject of 思っていらっしゃる? I thought at first it would be the speaker, but I don't understand how はず makes sense in that case, so perhaps it is 先生方?


4. ついでに、フリットウィック先生ですが、『魅惑の呪文 』について、私が知っているどの魔法使いよりもよくご 存知です。素知らぬ顔して憎いですね！」
フリットウィック先生はあまりのことに両手で顔を覆い ・・・

a) What does 憎い refer to?

b) What does あまりのことに mean? (I know it is あまり・の・こと・に, of course, but I don't understand what that means in the context.)


5. 「ハーマイオニー、頼むよ。君まさか、その四十六人に入ってないだろう な」

Is the speaker the subject of 頼む?

 

[Toritoribe]

1)
I think " 。" is a typo of " 、".

2)
It's supposed to mean 誰かが大ビーカーになみなみと入れた『骨生え薬』を飲ませたばかり, as you interpreted correctly. Actually, this sentence grammatically can't mean so (i.e., incorrect and not-make-sense as a Japanese sentence), and is pointed out that one of the worst mistranslation of this translator.

3)
Yes, 先生方 is the subject.

4) a)
It's an ironical use of 憎い, meaning "excellent / admirable / graceful".

b)
あまりの means "extremely". あまりのことに is used as what has happened is extremely bad/good for Flitwick.

5)
It's close to "Come on!", "Oh no!" or "No kidding!".

 

[Kraise]

Sorry to interfere in the thread but, what is the meaning of "なみなみと" and who was the subject of "飲ませた"? Did Snape made someone drink the flask of the potion or his face was such, that he was probable forced by someone to drink it?



Edit: Does is mean that someone filled a beaker so much, to the brim?

"concerning Snape, right now he had a face as if he was forced by someone to drink a full flask of bone-grow-potion"

Is this translation any good?

 

[eeky]

Thanks Toritoribe.

"concerning Snape, right now he had a face as if he was forced by someone to drink a full flask of bone-grow-potion"

This is essentially how I understand it. 誰か is the subject of 飲ませた, and the target is スネイプ, i.e. (his face was as if) someone forced Snape to drink the potion.

 

[eeky]

Actually, this sentence grammatically can't mean so (i.e., incorrect and not-make-sense as a Japanese sentence), and is pointed out that one of the worst mistranslation of this translator.

Apart from maybe the occasional poor sentence, would you say that, on the whole, this translator's writing is normal and natural Japanese?

 

[Toritoribe]

Yeah, the translator meant so.

I haven't read the whole novel(s), but I feel the sentences sometimes seem odd from your quotations. However, the readers know the flow of the context, so they would be able to get the correct meaning even from those mistranslated sentences.

 

[eeky]

I feel the sentences sometimes seem odd from your quotations.

That's a bit worrying. Do you mean that the Japanese is often not properly idiomatic?

 

[Toritoribe]

Hmm, it would depend on how much the sentence is "incorrect". "Grammatically incorect" isn't always bad, I think. It can be the writer's characteristics. #2 seems just a simple mistake, though. (If I read it without the context, I would interpret that 大ビーカー is the target of 飲ませる.)

 

[eeky]

"Grammatically incorect" isn't always bad, I think.

Really? It seems bad to me. I mean ... I'm not bothered about the occasional bad sentence, or typo, in a 500-page book, but I would be worried if a lot of the text was ungrammatical or unidiomatic. But surely the publishers would not print such a book.

 

[Toritoribe]

Unfortunately, the translator of the book(s) is also the president of the publishing company... Anyway, probably as I wrote previously, it's already pointed out that Harry potter series contain so many mistranslations/misinterpretations (actually, I heard that some mistakes were revised in the later published versions).

 

[eeky]

Unfortunately, the translator of the book(s) is also the president of the publishing company...

Oh!

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