速報版 / させて / 不思議に / まちがいっこない

[eeky]

Hiya,

1. This is information about a report:

平成２１年速報版、平成２０年１０月１日現在

I am not very clear what 速報版 and 現在 mean here. I'm wondering if it's saying that the report was originally published on 平成２０年１０月１日 but reissued in 平成２１, but it's a bit of a wild guess.


2. その社会主義者は女性の通訳を同伴させていた。

Translation given: "The socialist was accompanied by a female interpreter."

Why させて? The socialist made/let her accompany him?


3. This is from a version of 竹取物語. The old man has just noticed the strange glowing bamboo stalk.

「何じゃろう」
不思議に思ったおじいさんはその竹を切ってみました。

To me, 不思議に looks adverbial ("strangely"), and 不思議に思ったおじいさん therefore seems to mean "the old man who was thinking strangely", which is not right. Could 不思議 be a noun, and に mark this as the target of his thought?


4. その点はまちがいっこない。

Translation given: "There's no mistaking about that."

Is the last part of this essentially 間違い + 来ない? If so, what is っ doing there?

 

[undrentide]

1. This is information about a report:
平成２１年速報版、平成２０年１０月１日現在

No, 速報版 is a flash version of the report which may be followed by more detailed one.
date + 現在 means 'as of ~'


2. その社会主義者は女性の通訳を同伴させていた。
同伴していた is also OK.
させて could mean either made/let her accompany him, it depends on the context.

3. This is from a version of 竹取物語. The old man has just noticed the strange glowing bamboo stalk.
不思議に思う means to wonder about something.
(To think of something as strange, if literally translated.)


4. その点はまちがいっこない。
(verb)＋っこない is a set phrase, meaning 'should/cannot not~' (strong negative possibility)
e.g.
きみにはわかりっこない。 you will never understand
そんなことできっこない。 (I) can never do that.

 

[Toritoribe]

3)
That に is not the case particle but a conjugation(連用形) of a classical auxiliary verb なり. Although the conjugation is also the etymology of に in the adverbial form of na-adjectives (i.e., 不思議に as "strangely"). Thus, nounに思う is wrong. You can think it as だと.
e.g.
光る竹を不思議に思った ＝ 光る竹を/が不思議だと思った
周りの気配を不気味に感じた ＝ 周りの気配を/が不気味だと感じた

4)
っこ/こ is a suffix, meaning （の）こと, and っこない is a set phrase, as undrentide-san wrote.

まちがいっこない ＝ まちがうことはない ＝ まちがうはずがない

［1］ 名詞・動詞の連用形に付いて、「こと」の意を表す。

うそっ―

慣れっ―

知りっ―ない

泣きっ―なしよ

こ - Yahoo!辞書

(接尾)
〔補説〕 形容詞型活用（[文]クつこな・し）
動詞の連用形に付いて、…するはずがない、の意を表す。

そんな難しいこと、子供にわかり―・い

そんな冒険はでき―・い

っこない - Yahoo!辞書

You can also say まちがえっこない.

まちがう --> まちがい(-masu stem) --> まちがいっこない
まちがえる --> まちがえ(-masu stem) --> まちがえっこない

 

[eeky]

Thank you both.

1. This is information about a report:
平成２１年速報版、平成２０年１０月１日現在

No, 速報版 is a flash version of the report which may be followed by more detailed one.
date + 現在 means 'as of ~'

I am still a little confused by this. Is it referring to a "quick" version of a report for 平成２１年, which was released ahead of time on 平成２０年１０月１日, and which will be followed later (presumably in 平成２１年) by a more detailed one?

 

[Toritoribe]

現在 shows that it is the date of the data.

２ （時間を表す語の下に付き、接尾語的に用いて）変化す る物事の状態をある時点で区切って示すときの、その時 点。「八月末日―の応募者数」

現在 - goo辞書

The report is a quick version of a report for 平成２１年, and 平成２０年１０月１日 refers to the date of the collected data, or might be the date of the counting/analysis.

 

[eeky]

OK, thanks.

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