Please Help Me Translate This Now!

[jounetsu]

"sense~i, wakaranai tokoro ga arunde, oshiete kudasai!!"



I'm totally clueless 0___0;

 

[leonmarino]

"sense~i, wakaranai tokoro ga arunde, oshiete kudasai!!"
I'm totally clueless 0___0;

先生、分からない所があるんで、教えてください！
せんせい、わからないところがあるんで、おしえてください！
Sensei, wakaranai tokoro ga arunde, osiete kudasai!

Teacher, (it's that) there is something (or "some part" is maybe more accurate) I don't understand, please teach me!

You're welcome.

 

[nice gaijin]

jounetsu, did you actually try translating the sentence yourself? If not, perhaps you shouldn't have bothered with "Help Me" in the thread title...

 

[jounetsu]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!~


I got that as a pic-comment on myspace so I was a bit clueless lol!

jounetsu, did you actually try translating the sentence yourself? If not, perhaps you shouldn't have bothered with "Help Me" in the thread title...

eeeeh I did understand couple of words but I had no idea it meant that

 

[Glenn]

The thread title in itself is too demanding for my tastes. That isn't asking, that's commanding. And it's especially demanding because of the "now!" Am I the only one who found it rude?

 

[nice gaijin]

The thread title in itself is too demanding for my tastes. That isn't asking, that's commanding. And it's especially demanding because of the "now!" Am I the only one who found it rude?

yeah, that was kind of the point I was trying to make...

 

[Glenn]

Well, I did miss the "please." So it's better than I thought it was. Could be a non-native mistake, I admit. But it would have been much better without the "now!"

 

[yukio_michael]

The thread title in itself is too demanding for my tastes. That isn't asking, that's commanding. And it's especially demanding because of the "now!" Am I the only one who found it rude?

PLEASE HELP ME TRANSLATE THIS JUMBLE OF POSSIBLY INCORECT ROUMAJI, ASAP!

Yeah, a tad rude.

 

[leonmarino]

Yeah, twas a tad rude indeed. That's why I said "you're welcome" at the end of my post. Jounetsu thanked me though, so I guess it's all good.

 

[Pringle]

I need help with this line. I did it myself but I don't know if the words are in the right order and which word gets the わ for the subject: わたし ねこ みるく さしあげます(I tried to say, "I gave the cat milk"). Yes it is very simply but I just started (trying) to learn Japanese -^_^-

 

[Elizabeth]

I need help with this line. I did it myself but I don't know if the words are in the right order and which word gets the わ for the subject: わたし ねこ みるく さしあげます(I tried to say, "I gave the cat milk"). Yes it is very simply but I just started (trying) to learn Japanese -^_^-

わたしは、ねこにみるくをあげました。is OK. The words are basically in the correct order,
just drop the さし, add a past tense and the particles (well, don't worry so much about those for now....^^)...

 

[epigene]

わたしは、ねこにみるくをあげました。is OK. The words are basically in the correct order,
just drop the さし, add a past tense and the particles (well, don't worry so much about those for now....^^)...

Hi, Elizabeth!

Long time no read(?)!

The "give" verb in Japanese is a tricky one.

さしあげる means give to someone who ranks significantly higher than you in the social (and biological, meaning man vs. animal) hierarchy, like a teacher/mentor, respected leader, etc.

あげる also means to give to a higher-ranking person or a peer (including friends).

For animals, plants and other living creatures, the correct form is やる .
ねこにみるくをやる。
はなにみずをやる。
I know there are way too many Japanese people who can't tell the difference and disagree with me, saying things like "Ooooh! My pet Neko-chan is part of my family!!", but this is still the correct way (sadly, a shrinking minority today )

I'm an animal/plant lover but still use やる to feed cats and water/give fertilizer to plants...

 

[Elizabeth]

Hi, Elizabeth!

Long time no read(?)!

The "give" verb in Japanese is a tricky one.

さしあげる means give to someone who ranks significantly higher than you in the social (and biological, meaning man vs. animal) hierarchy, like a teacher/mentor, respected leader, etc.

あげる also means to give to a higher-ranking person or a peer (including friends).

For animals, plants and other living creatures, the correct form is やる .
ねこにみるくをやる。
はなにみずをやる。
I know there are way too many Japanese people who can't tell the difference and disagree with me, saying things like "Ooooh! My pet Neko-chan is part of my family!!", but this is still the correct way (sadly, a shrinking minority today )

I'm an animal/plant lover but still use やる to feed cats and water/give fertilizer to plants...

Yeah, I used to do it correctly too...but then I actually got two cats and was able to notice my tutor has also fallen victim to あげる。。。

On the other hand, if やる is what I use for my younger sister, well then I suppose I can also reapply it to the cats....They would probably rather I
were in Japan all the time anyway and could have free run of the house with a little privacy...

 

[Glenn]

ねこにみるくをやる。

I thought ぎゅうにゅう was better for milk that you drink, and みるく was more like the cream you put in coffee, or used when combined with some other foreign word.

Yeah, I used to do it correctly too...but then I actually got two cats and was able to notice my tutor has also fallen victim to あげる。。。

On the other hand, if やる is what I use for my younger sister, well then I suppose I can also reapply it to the cats....They would probably rather I
were in Japan all the time anyway and could have free run of the house with a little privacy...

There's a funny comic in 問題な日本語 like this where a guy gives some food to his cat and uses あげる, then gives something to his girlfriend and uses やる (or maybe the order was reversed, but the point is the same). I took it as meaning it was common for Japanese to say things like that (but I'm starting to wonder after reading epigene's comment).

 

[Elizabeth]

II thought ぎゅうにゅう was better for milk that you drink, and みるく was more like the cream you put in coffee, or used when combined with some other foreign word.

My understanding was that ミルク is the white stuff you (or cats) drink regardless of where it came (cow, goat, artificial)....it's on the menu of restaurants a lot but not as many store cartons (I don't think)...

 

[The7thSamurai]

The thread title in itself is too demanding for my tastes. That isn't asking, that's commanding. And it's especially demanding because of the "now!" Am I the only one who found it rude?

Well the OP resides in Finland so English isn't his/her mother tongue. I'm willing to give people whose first language isn't English the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Elizabeth]

Well the OP resides in Finland so English isn't his/her mother tongue. I'm willing to give people whose first language isn't English the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe that's how they do things in the j-pop arena. Honestly, I thought it was meant as a joke from the first. Either that or they didn't want to be late for class.

 

[epigene]

My understanding was that ミルク is the white stuff you (or cats) drink regardless of where it came (cow, goat, artificial)....it's on the menu of restaurants a lot but not as many store cartons (I don't think)...

Yes, ミルク is used these days to point to cow milk (as dairy product for human consumption) at restaurants, etc.
But, strictly speaking, what you drink is 牛乳 .
ミルクactually points to baby formula (the powdered stuff).

Another similar thing:
自転車 bicycle; bike
バイク motorcycle; motorbike

As the Japanese gain greater understanding of the definitions of words imported from foreign languages, there are now people who call milk ミルク and bicycle バイク .

Just FYI!

 

[Glenn]

Great. Like I need things to get more confusing. I thought the 自転車/バイク distinction was pretty set.

What about 運転 and ドライブ? From what I understand the former is the actual act of driving, while the latter is going out for a pleasure ride, seeing sites, etc.

 

[undrentide]

Yes, your understanding about 運転 and ドライブ is correct.

Those in katakana = loan words tend to have more specific/narrower meaning than the original, since they usually "imported" with a certain thing/concept.

 

[Elizabeth]

Those in katakana = loan words tend to have more specific/narrower meaning than the original, since they usually "imported" with a certain thing/concept.

それなら、「カメラ屋」はどんな種類の店でしょうか？

カメラだけを売っているところはなかなか無いでしょうね。
写真屋さんは、現像とともに、スタジオがあって、写真を撮ってくれるところをさすときに使うことばでしょうか。実際、「カメラ屋」「写真屋」はどちらも写真現像をするところとして使えますか。

 

[undrentide]

Those in katakana = loan words tend to have more specific/narrower meaning than the original, since they usually "imported" with a certain thing/concept.
それなら、「カメラ屋」はどんな種類の店でしょうか？

カメラだけを売っているところはなかなか無いでしょうね。
写真屋さんは、現像とともに、スタジオがあって、写真を撮ってくれるところをさすときに使うことばでしょうか。実際、「カメラ屋」「写真屋」はどちらも写真現像をするところとして使えますか。

ええと、まず、外来語はもともとの外国語に比べて限られた意味しかもたないことが多いといったのは例えばポルトガル語の「カルタ」、ドイツ語の「カルテ」、英語の「カード」を見てもらえばわかると思います。
カルタやカルテは英語のカードとほぼ同じ意味のはずですが、カルタはおそらくトランプと一緒に入ってきたために、ゲームのためのカードを指す言葉になっています。
カルテは医療・医学と一緒に入ってきたために、医師が患者について記録するカードだけを指す言葉になりました。
カメラは英語でも日本語でもほぼ同じ意味ではありませんか？
また、カメラ＝写真ではありませんよね。
カメラ屋は何を扱う店か、というのは外来語と元の外国語の意味の範囲とは関係がないと思いますけれど、どうでしょう。
カメラ屋はもともとカメラを売るお店のことですよ。
最近はカメラ以外のものを扱うお店が多くなりましたが。
本来の意味でのカメラ屋といえば写真撮影やフィルムの現像はしないと思います。
写真屋はもともとは写真を撮影して、現像してくれるお店です。
大昔はカメラを持っている人は限られていましたが、カメラが一般的になってからは、現像だけも扱うようになったのだと思います。
お店によってはカメラを売っている場合もあります。
最近は撮影はせずにフィルムの現像だけ扱うお店も増えました。これも写真屋といっていいと思います。
(Sorry for posting in Japanese.)

 

[Glenn]

また、カメラ＝写真ではありませんよね。

これは「カメライコール写真ではありません」と読めばいいんですか。

 

[undrentide]

これは「カメライコール写真ではありません」と読めばいいんですか。

はい、声に出して読むとそうなります。
filler filler filler

 

[Elizabeth]

写真屋はもともとは写真を撮影して、現像してくれるお店です。
大昔はカメラを持っている人は限られていましたが、カメラが一般的になってからは、現像だけも扱うようになったのだと思います。
お店によってはカメラを売っている場合もあります。
最近は撮影はせずにフィルムの現像だけ扱うお店も増えました。これも写真屋といっていいと思います。

くわしくその違いを説明してくれてありがとうございます。
最初は、日本人先生に、あわてて「カメラ屋は、現像をする店で、写真屋は写真 を撮ってくれるところ」と説明してもらいましたが、確かに、ＤＰＥと呼ばれる写真屋を見たことはとあります。。。
堙ｰﾅ陳ｩ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｱ窶堙??堙坂?堙??堋?窶堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。ﾂ。ﾂ。