The yakuza and right winger (uyoku)

[caster51]

60% is Japanese Buraku ppl
30% in Korean.....

Mitsuhiro Suganuma, "Japan's Intelligence Services"
Time: 2006 Oct 19 12:00 - 14:00
Summary:

Professional Luncheon,
Mitsuhiro Suganuma,
Formerly of the Public Security Intelligence Agency

Language:

The speech and Q & A will be in Japanese with English interpretation.

Description:

"Japan's Intelligence Services: From North Korean Spies To Right-wingers"

Japan's low-profile Public Security Intelligence Agency is tasked with a wide range of information-gathering activities including, under the PSIA's second intelligence department, domestic counter-intelligence. This broad remit covers gathering information on issues ranging from North Korean spies to Japanese right-wing groups.

On Oct. 19, Mitsuhiro Suganuma, former section head of the second intelligence department, will be at the club to offer an insight into these activities. Suganuma is well informed about the deep relationships between yakuza crime syndicates and other sections of Japanese society. Don't miss this event for a fascinating look at a side of Japan that's often hidden.

60% is Japanese Buraku ppl
30% in Korean.....

Uyoku(black noizy ban) is belonging to Yakuza....


anyway who is uyoku
what is thire purpose ??
I think As for this, isn't the foreigner ignorant at all?

 

[KirinMan]

I think As for this, isn't the foreigner ignorant at all?

Could you clarify this statement please? Which is it that you are asking?

Foreigner's are ignorant of the uyoku.

Foreigner's are not ignorant of the uyoku.

 

[caster51]

Could you clarify this statement please? Which is it that you are asking?

If foreigners sees them, a lot of them will imagine the ultra nationalism of
Japan.
like that.....

many forumer here also talking about them that japanese movement of
violence or racist nationalism are wrong because of them
and foreigners dont know that
that is why I am asking what their purpose is though I know
Why does the person discriminated in the tenno system become a Ultra right wing?
how about korean?

 

[KirinMan]

If foreigners sees them, a lot of them will imagine the ultra nationalism of
Japan.
like that.....

many forumer here also talking about them that japanese movement of
violence or racist nationalism are wrong because of them
and foreigners dont know that
that is why I am asking what their purpose is though I know
Why does the person discriminated in the tenno system become a Ultra right wing?
how about korean?

If you are asking a question that you already know the answer to what is the purpose of asking the question in the first place?

For clarification here are you asking the non-Japanese members of this board if THEY/WE know the purpose or the goals of the uyoku correct?

Just a comment here about this; I know what they are and what they stand for, but I do not understand your purpose in asking a confrontational "loaded" question.

Would it not be better to state what you know and ask people to give their opinions to what you wrote instead of trying to instigate an argument right off the bat?

 

[caster51]

Why does the person discriminated in the origin of tenno system become a right wing?

Yeah, you are right.
then I hope the foumer here use the word " uyoku" or "right winger" carefully with knowing what Uyoku is.

 

[KirinMan]

Why does the person discriminated in the origin of tenno system become a right wing

Yeah, you are right.
then I hope the foumer here use the word " uyoku" or "right winger" carefully with knowing what Uyoku is.

Mmmm you do realize that you are quoting yourself here don't you?

 

[caster51]

Lecture on the Yakuza w/SUBTITLES part1

Yakuza Lecture w/SUBTITLES part 2

Dowa=Buraku ppl

 

[Ewok85]

Do you realise how stupid and contradictory it is to suggest that the Uyoku (who are highly racist imperialists) are in league or are filled with Yakuza (who have many members who are x-generational Koreans, Burakumin and other highly discriminated peoples).

Its like saying the top echelons of the KKK are African Americans!

 

[caster51]

Their purposes are the propaganda how Japan is racist country, dangerous nationalism.....
they act it themselves because of propaganda.
A lot of foreigners , media and even JREF here are cheated by them.
on the other hand, they( in different appearance) shout " we are discriminated" " give us a human rights"
Their power is constructed under that
background of Uyoku and connectuion of politician and company

 

[Ewok85]

So you are suggesting that the discriminated people who make up the Yakuza are also the Uyoku, who make discriminatory and racist remarks to make it look like there are highly discriminatory and racist people in Japan?

Hoho, this is the conspiracy theory of the year!

Caster - can you tell me what nationality you are?

 

[caster51]

Caster - can you tell me what nationality you are?

Japanese
many of Japanese Know that Fact.

They have a lot of privileges.

this is the conspiracy theory of the year!

It is a common sense and their Farce
check the google
右翼 在日 部落 - Google 検索
They give the foreign country a bad image of Japan.
This is the most effective means because they dont have no Patriotism

 

[Ewok85]

I do find it a little offensive that you think that people are labelling offensive people as not being Japanese, or at least those groups who the Japanese love to hate.

I've never my a Uyoku who didn't have perfect Japanese - whats the deal there then?

 

[-Rudel-]

I find it normal for politicians to work with gangs or mafias to get what they want. ie) votes, money, etc. I'm very certain it happens here in the states.

From my understanding:
Some of the Uyoku, can have good debates that make sence, however, most of the time, they are against Japan's current way of life, and want it to go back to pre-ww2 style. Where as it's against the Emporer's rules to talk about higher social people, and that you do what you are told without question.

Uyoku are everyday people living and working with regular people and usually don't make themselves know to others. Why? I'm not sure.

That is as much as I know.....hope that helps.

 

[gaijinalways]

Rudel posted

I find it normal for politicians to work with gangs or mafias to get what they want. ie) votes, money, etc. I'm very certain it happens here in the states.

But not on the levels it happens in Japan. The Japanese government has started cracking down on the Yakuza, though they still have no laws as encompassing as a racketeering law like they do in the US.

Ewok posted

Do you realise how stupid and contradictory it is to suggest that the Uyoku (who are highly racist imperialists) are in league or are filled with Yakuza (who have many members who are x-generational Koreans, Burakumin and other highly discriminated peoples).

Apparently Caster doesn't.

 

[pipokun]

政治団体代表に和田静夫氏 県警が関与を捜査
http://www.chugoku-np.co.jp/NewsPack/CN2007021901000251_National.html
同和問題などに関する高額書籍の購入を強要したとする恐喝事件で、書籍販売会社社長李一雄容疑者（６３）＝恐喝容疑で逮捕＝らが名前を使っていた政治団体の代表は、旧社会党副委員長を務めた元国会議員、和田静夫氏（８０）だったことが１９日、広島県警の調べで分かった。

I guess caster is talking about the corporate racketeering case, tax evasion and selling extremely expensive books on anti-discrimination or territorial disputes.
#1. Lee kazuo, an owner of a publishing company
#2. Wada shizuo, ex-politician belonged to SDPJ

I highly respect Korean Japanese who support Japanese point of views on the disputes, however tax is tax we have to pay, and it is a bit expensive to sell a 3,000JPY worth book for 50,000JPY.

 

[Ewok85]

One of the things that annoys me the most here is that he has provided no conclusive evidence - some youtube videos and people venting in blogs does not a proof make.

 

[gaijinalways]

Very true, this is why I have often referred Caster over to 'Young Dudes Guide to Japan' where they have a resident right winger who presents that same kind of evidence, and then wonders why I don't see eye to eye with him.

Caster, emotionally charged arguements don't sway most people when they evaluate the facts in the light of day. Now if we could only see a little more light in the Japanese government, ..then...

 

[gaijinalways]

Here Caster, here's a samples from the FAQ on the same site, with words from 'your mentor'

Oscar the Jap:There have recently been some irritatingly thick sculled people asking about racism.
Let's just make a few things clear:
Firstly, if your name is Arudodebito Sugawara, you will definitely find racism in Japan intolerable.
Others have found it considerablly less so.
There is no KKK in Japan that hang foreigners from trees. We have no gas chambers for gaijin. You are not likely to be beaten for walking on the pavement.
The most you are likely to encounter are rude stares or a scoff. Nothing you will not encounter on a walk through Central Park, New York.
Since you face almost no physical confrontation due to racism, the perception of racism in Japan is mostly in the eye of the beholder.
Secondly, if you are Arudodebito Sugawara or his ilk, you will be cursed, cussed and spat upon for who you are. Not what you are.
Harrassment of a dumb**** is not racism. It is just harrasment of a dumb****.
Harrassment of dumb****s by people of normal intelligence is not racism regardless of the race of the victim.
Thirdly, if you go to Sunday School and try to start a discussion about Pornographic Animated Movies, you will be made to shut up. Your constitutional right to free speech will not protect you. If you go to a strip joint and try to get the beer drinking dudes to listen to your asthetic theories on the concept of beauty in the nude female body, you will be treated worse than the afore mentioned idiot in church.
If you are doing the wrong thing at the wrong place at the wrong time, you will be mistreated for your transgression and it will not be due to "racism".
Forthly, racism works both ways. Some people actually like the fact that they are being hired in English conversation schools just for being white. But that does not change the fact that they are subjects of racism, only one that is working in their advantage. A lot of guys would rather not work in English conversation schools for this reason. Not for long anyway.
Japan is a civilized enough a country that you can take sensible measures to limit personal disadvantage through racism to a minimum. Just as long as you are not one of those screeching PC maniacs who seem to be mortally offended at everything.
Ok, so what if you go to an English conversation school, flashing your diploma on Education, looking for a job when you do not fit the description of the "white, blond, blue eyes" gaijin that the place is hiring? - You will get the same treatment Humphry Bogart got in the "Big Sleep" when he walked into an underground porno shop fronting as a used book store actually trying to buy a used book.
This is not racism. The racism is the act of hiring the white guys.
What will happen if you are a white guy dating a Japanese girl?
You will have the **** beat out of you if you are an ******* about it.
Same as if you are dating anyone anywhere else.
Don't rush to blame your troubles on racism.
If it is any consolation, white people have dropped the A-bomb on Japan. Niether Filipinos, Koreans, fricans nor Arabs have ever done the same.

Interesting take on discrimination , yes? Comments?

 

[caster51]

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this is a typical case.
some zainichi korean , Dowa and Uyoku.... it is ike a Yokozuna demonstration

 

[gaijinalways]

Sorry Caster, can someone give us a translation please?

 

[caster51]

Sorry Caster, can someone give us a translation please?

I thought you understand japanese well.
because you understand " kokogahendayo....." right?

 

[caster51]

TV docummentary...Japanese Uyoku(1990)
it is very interesting....





I think left winger(sayoku) is more violent than Uyoku

 

[caster51]

Faked Uyoku by Yakuza

real uyokus?
Ryohei Uchida
Ryōhei Uchida - Wikipedia
Black Dragon Society(黒龍会）
Black Dragon Society - Wikipedia
Tōyama Mitsuru
Tōyama Mitsuru - Wikipedia
Genyōsha

Gen'yōsha - Wikipedia
most uyokus supported Pan-Asianism, democratic rights and liberating of Asia like free Tibet ..
that is why most uyokus supported revolutionaries such as Sun Yat-sen, and Emilio Aguinaldo.
when Japan annexed korea, they felt they were cheated by Japanese govenment. then they started the movement of democratic right in korea.
that was why there were many korean diet members
their networks were amazing
http://www.japanesehistory.de/kokuryukai/Asian Review 1920.pdf
http://www.japanesehistory.de/kokuryukai/Asian Review 1921.pdf
http://www.japanesehistory.de/kokuryukai/
black dragon society nationalist - Google 検索
BTW
I heard they revived.....
They might be the members.
today's newspaper
http://www.kjclub.com/UploadFile/exc_board_57/2009/05/19/P5180028.JPG
Most foreigners in Japan dont know it which is the hottest because the Japanese mass medias are becoming silent.

NHK should be dismantled..

 

[gaijinalways]

Perhaps using the same reasoning, JREF should be dismantled!

I.E. I don't agree with the opinions of some JREF members, some of them are rude, etc... perhaps I should buy

The Complete Manual of Suicide - Wikipedia

or you could break down and buy it for me!

 

[Thuglife]

Do you realise how stupid and contradictory it is to suggest that the Uyoku (who are highly racist imperialists) are in league or are filled with Yakuza (who have many members who are x-generational Koreans, Burakumin and other highly discriminated peoples).

Its like saying the top echelons of the KKK are African Americans!

Your Joking right?? I live in a Yakuza Kinjo and they are close to and sometimes members of the Uyoku. It is a money based relationship but it is still a relationship. Your comparison with Blacks and the K.K.K. is so ignorant of the reality I see on my street it seems like you must have been being sarcastic??

By your theory there should be all out war between the 2 since the Yakz/Chimpira's import most of the guns and drugs from "foreigners" and include them in their social hierarchy. Thus poisoning the "Nippon" and it's people.

They accept each other and even hold hands when necessary. Seems VERY hypocritical particularly on the Uyoku's part but hey...there it is.