Violet Fire Estate/Castle/Parish and Violet Blossom Estate/Castle/Parish

[TurkeySloth]

I need a series of translations relating to a fictional language that adds French's propensity to chop off final consonant sounds, so I know about how the names would look Romanized. Mind you, I know Japanese can't echo how French looks (e. g. Fédération internationale de l'automobile) wihtout looking very strange. How would one say Violet Fire Estate/Castle/Parish and Violet Blossom Estate/Castle/Parish is Japanese?

 

[Toritoribe]

Are you asking about the Japanese transliteration of a French word or French-like pronunciation such like ボンジュール for "bonjour"?

 

[TurkeySloth]

Torihibe, I'm asking about French-like pronunciation. I was unable to calrify that the language uses pitch accent while its Romanization looks more like French than Japanese because I realized I'd forgotten it after Jref's draconian three-hour editing limit had expired.

 

[thomas]

…because I realized I'd forgotten it after Jref's draconian three-hour editing limit had expired.

@Michealin, our "draconian" time limit prevents spammers from returning and inserting links into their posts. The time limit increases once you are promoted to advanced usergroups.

 

[TurkeySloth]

That rule makes perfect sense, thomas. I just wish I'd been reminded of it differently as I think it may have been mentioned it the sing-up process all those years ago.

 

[TurkeySloth]

Addendum to previous post:

I no longer want the translations of Violet Fire or Violet Blossom Estate/Castle/Parish because I prefer Violet Field Estate/Castle/Parish and Plum Blossom Estate/Castle/Parish to both of them. Google gives the translations below for each one. Are they roughly correct? If they are, what would they look like with French-like spelling?

Violet Field Estate: バイオレット フィールド エステート (Baioretto fīrudo esutēto)
Violet Field Castle: バイオレット フィールド キャッスル (Baioretto fīrudo kyassuru)
Violet Field Parish:バイオレット フィールド教区 (Baioretto fīrudo kyōku)
Plum Blossom Estate: プラム ブロッサム エステート (Puramu burossamu esutēto) I find the absence of an "ume no hana"-based translation here slightly odd
Plum Blossom Castle: 梅の花城 (Ume no Hanashiro)
Plum Blossom Parish: 梅花教区 (Baika kyōku) or 梅の花教区 (Ume no hana kyōku)

 

[Majestic]

I'm confused because I thought originally you wanted a katakana rendering of those phrases, but in your post above you also have Japanese translations (the ones with the kanji in them).

The translations (the ones with kanji) are fine. Other options also exist;

梅花苑 Baika-en = Plum Blossom Estate (emphasis on the land)
梅花邸 Baika-tei = Plum Blossom Estate (emphasis on the building)

教区 is literally "parish", with religious connotations, and therefore is unusually specific in its application. If you are just looking for a municipal division without the religious connotation, you could use 群 (gun) or 町 (machi or chō), 村 (mura) etc.
Or just 区 (ku) without the 教 in front of it.

Violet blossom estate would be 紫花苑 (shika-en) etc...

To my mind these translations are better than long strings of katakana, which can become tedious to read, especially if the text will be repeated throughout the video or text that you are creating. On the other hand, if you want to replicate the sound of the phrase, then your only option is katakana. And, if your target audience is small children, katakana may be a better choice. If your target is high-school and above, kanji is fine.

 

[TurkeySloth]

Thanks for the info, Majestic. The Japanese text was meant for me to have something to plug in somewhere the shows pitch accent, like Wiktionary, because I figured using Japanese would illustrate the nuanes better than applying pitch accent to a language that lacks any sort of stress. However, I ended up reverting to adding stress the French words to illustrate my point within the document I needed it for because Japanese only allows coda nasals in most cases.

Additionally, this demonic character's castle is on a large parcel of land and has a chuch building attached to it. Thus, the 教 in the translation is necessary.

 

[Toritoribe]

So, you just want to know the romaji version of the Japanese translation of those words after all?

 

[TurkeySloth]

Not necessarily because Wiktionary, for example, only uses Japanese text when searching a Japanese word, unless the word's been browsed into English—like samurai .

 

[Toritoribe]

Well, then, what do you mean by "French-like pronunciation"? Also, we need to know the exact meaning of "Estate" to translate it correctly. As Majestic-san already pointed out, the Japanese translation differs depending on the meaning.