who is いっちゃん？Who are talking?

letslearn · 27 May 2015

Hi All,
I have been given a page to read out of a book called ゆれるところ。
It starts with a statement, then a conversation takes place.
Is it adults or children I can seem to work out the characters? I'm totally confused. If you don't mind I would like to go through this line by line to see where I am getting confused. Starting at the first statement.

The statement is.
いっちゃんはうちの息子の大好きなシッターさんだ。: I think this just states that... icchan is my sons favourite baby sitter.

The first line of conversation.
「チビちゃん、どうしてもいっちゃんよりも年上になりたいんだよ、どうしてなれないの？」
chibichan I want to know, why do you want to be more older than icchichan?
or is it saying
I want to know why above all else chibachan wants to be older than icchan?

「生まれてきたときにもう際が離れてたから、しかたないんだよ」
「じゃあ、チビちゃんがにじゅうのとき、いっちゃんはよんじゅうななでもいいからおよめさんになってほしい」
「あんたがいいならいいけど、いっちゃんはいやだと思うな。。。ねえねえ、いっちゃんのどういうところが好きなの？」
「ええとね」
チビは車の中で真剣に考え始めた。

ほんとに紛らわしい
よろしくお願いします

Mike Cash · 27 May 2015

You completely skipped the どうしてなれないの？ part.

Hint: potential form.

letslearn · 27 May 2015

Mike Cash said:
You completely skipped the どうしてなれないの？ part.

Hint: potential form.

is it どうして成れない as in....why not able to become?
chibichan you want more then anything else to be as old as icchan, why aren't you able to?

Toritoribe · 27 May 2015

The narrator is the parent (perhaps father). He is talking with his son. The kid calls himself チビちゃん. Makes sense?

letslearn · 28 May 2015

Toritoribe said:
The narrator is the parent (perhaps father). He is talking with his son. The kid calls himself チビちゃん. Makes sense?

so is the narrator the parent the only one actually speaking?

the statement is.
いっちゃんはうちの息子の大好きなシッターさんだ。: I think this just states that... icchan is my sons favourite baby sitter.

The first line of conversation.
「チビちゃん、どうしてもいっちゃんよりも年上になりたいんだよ、どうしてなれないの？」
chibichan, more then anything else you wish you to be older than icchichan, why can't you?

「生まれてきたときにもう際が離れてたから、しかたないんだよ」
when you were born your ages were already separated so it can't be helped.
「じゃあ、チビちゃんがにじゅうのとき、いっちゃんはよんじゅうななでもいいからおよめさんになってほしい」
well then, when chibichan turns 20, icchan will be 47, I want to her to become my wife.
「あんたがいいならいいけど、いっちゃんはいやだと思うな。。。ねえねえ、いっちゃんのどういうところが好きなの？」
you don't mind, but i don't think icchan will, hey what do you like about icchan?
「ええとね」
let me see
チビは車の中で真剣に考え始めた。
chibi inside the car started to give serious consideration.

Toritoribe · 28 May 2015

letslearn said:
so is the narrator the parent the only one actually speaking?

I didn't say that's monologue. I said "He is talking with the kid."

letslearn said:
「チビちゃん、どうしてもいっちゃんよりも年上になりたいんだよ、どうしてなれないの？」
chibichan, more then anything else you wish you to be older than icchichan, why can't you?

The subject is wrong. I gave you a hint "The kid calls himself チビちゃん."

letslearn said:
「生まれてきたときにもう際が離れてたから、しかたないんだよ」
when you were born your ages were already separated so it can't be helped.

You misinterpreted the meaning of 歳(the reading is とし, not さい)が離れてた.

letslearn said:
「じゃあ、チビちゃんがにじゅうのとき、いっちゃんはよんじゅうななでもいいからおよめさんになってほしい」
well then, when chibichan turns 20, icchan will be 47, I want to her to become my wife.

You skipped でもいいから.

letslearn said:
「あんたがいいならいいけど、いっちゃんはいやだと思うな。。。ねえねえ、いっちゃんのどういうところが好きなの？」
you don't mind, but i don't think icchan will, hey what do you like about icchan?

You skipped いいなら.

letslearn · 28 May 2015

Toritoribe said:
The subject is wrong. I gave you a hint "The kid calls himself チビちゃん."

「チビちゃん、どうしてもいっちゃんよりも年上になりたいんだよ、どうしてなれないの？」
Are you saying the kid is talking in the third person?
I more then anything else wish to be older than icchichan, why can't I?

Toritoribe · 28 May 2015

the kid = the son

letslearn · 28 May 2015

Hi Guys,
Thank you for your patience.
The statement is.
いっちゃんはうちの息子の大好きなシッターさんだ。: I think this just states that... icchan is my sons favourite baby sitter.

The first line of conversation.
「チビちゃん、どうしてもいっちゃんよりも年上になりたいんだよ、どうしてなれないの？」
I (As in Chibisan), more then anything else wish I was older than icchichan, why can't I?

「生まれてきたときにもう際が離れてたから、しかたないんだよ」
when you were born many years had past ,so it can't be helped.

「じゃあ、チビちゃんがにじゅうのとき、いっちゃんはよんじゅうななでもいいからおよめさんになってほしい」
well then, when chibichan turns 20, even if icchan is 47, I want her to become my wife.

「あんたがいいならいいけど、いっちゃんはいやだと思うな。。。ねえねえ、いっちゃんのどういうところが好きなの？」
That might be fine for you, but i don't think so for icchan, hey what do you like about icchan? (Not sure about the nuance of あんたがいいならいいけど)

「ええとね」
let me see
チビは車の中で真剣に考え始めた。
chibi inside the car started to give serious consideration.

Why is chibisan saying "chibisan" when he is talking?
thanks

undrentide · 28 May 2015

letslearn said:
Why is chibisan saying "chibisan" when he is talking?

Some young children refer themselves with their own name (as others call them so), it's a kind of baby-talk.

letslearn said:
「チビちゃん、どうしてもいっちゃんよりも年上になりたいんだよ、どうしてなれないの？」

I really want to be older than Icchan. Why can't I be?

letslearn · 29 May 2015

undrentide said:
Some young children refer themselves with their own name (as others call them so), it's a kind of baby-talk.

I really want to be older than Icchan. Why can't I be?

Thank you undrentidesan.
Also thank you all for your help.
It is a lot clearer now.

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