Yes…Venn diagram time; who are the most technically advanced nation in the world, one having put men on the moon over 50 years ago? Circle one. Which are the the most warmongering nations in the world? Circle two. Which orange-led nation(s) are in the intersection?
Stephen Hawking was very worried about attracting alien life to our planet. Have you read/seen 'Three Body Problem'?
I wonder how many people here have actually confronted an animal, had it look you the eye and then killed it? It's very, very hard for a normally-emotioned, moral reasoning person to do.
Yes, it's a good one.
I once heard someone at work tell how he hit an animal (fox or deer, I forget) with his car and it was lying screaming on the side of the road. The body was severely damaged so he hit it over the head to put it out of its misery. For the longest time after, loud, high-pitched sounds would make him hear that scream again
<Finger in ears shouting "LA LA LA">I once heard someone at work tell how he hit an animal (fox or deer, I forget) with his car and it was lying screaming on the side of the road. The body was severely damaged so he hit it over the head to put it out of its misery. For the longest time after, loud, high-pitched sounds would make him hear that scream again
I've only ever know one person who hunted deer. I suggested I'd be alright with his proclivity if he levelled the playing field and he hunted with the his just his hands since the deer doesn't have any special natural weapons. He'd grunt like the neanderthal he was.
You're clearly a cut above the average person, Grandpa Frank
Technologically advanced yes. But actually advanced, far from it. Now that I think about it, science fiction must be wrong. At least on earth, it was the most warlike societies that triumphed since they were the ones that went out to other lands and killed or enslaved other indiscriminately.Yes…Venn diagram time; who are the most technically advanced nation in the world, one having put men on the moon over 50 years ago? Circle one. Which are the the most warmongering nations in the world? Circle two. Which orange-led nation(s) are in the intersection?
No I haven't heard of that. Given what we know of physics this should be the least of our worries. Unless an alien civilization figures out how to travel at or quicker than the speed of light by the time any aliens get here our civilization will be long extinct.
By that logic, farmers and hunters are not normal emotional/moral reasoning people. I think we're all capable of it. Consider that we all can somehow ignore all the human suffering, let alone animal, going on around us in this world. Those that can't do so really suffer emotionally and even end their own lives.
I know many deer hunters. And the fact is, there are no natural predators here any more. Without hunting the deer would suffer terribly from disease and starvation. I've never hunted and don't have any interest in it but I don't condemn those who do.
As a Japanese swordsmanship practitioner, I'm very interested in conflict/war/strategy and my sad, although not unique conclusion is that conflict, killing subjugating and violence are part of human nature and indeed progress our ingenuity and innovation. But just because that's part of our nature, it doesn't mean we have to act upon it. Our neo- and frontal cortex allows us to override these types of base instincts. I'm evolved to catch, kill and consume animals but I have decided not to. Social media is designed to activate neural 'addiction pathways' and suck us into wasting our processing power, time and generate income for the platform, so I have decided not to engage of any of them. I am addicted to Amazon, however
Once I didn't buy anything from Amazon for a whole week. One afternoon there was a knock on my door…it was Jeff Bezos asking if I was OK and not ill in anyway 
Yes, he said, "If aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when Columbus landed in America, which didn't turn out well for the Native Americans," he said. "We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn't want to meet."
When I see farmers being interviewed on the news (they're usually complaining about something) they indirectly refer to their animals as mere commodities, suggest it is they who 'maintain and preserve' the land (for their profit, yes). Well the land did perfectly well before they arrived. Does that sound normal to you? It's a bit odd, I'd suggest.
That's true, but we can slightly absolve ourselves by doing a bit in the hope that it will contribute to the greater good.
Yes, I peer reviewed my 'Stephen Hawkings-PhD-student' friend's lecture on the mathematics of population control and the culling of animals to prevent suffering. I begrudgingly agreed with his thesis, but it is humans that initially set up that abnormal situation by introducing non-native animals into environments with no natural predators, so they could enjoy hunting and killing them. Henry VIII did this with red deer into the New Forest.
That'd be better wouldn't it?
Be careful with curry some roux has pork or beef fat in it even if there are no chunks of meat in it.
This is my main worry, dachi, sauces and toppings because most purveyors of food forget about 'unseen' ingredients. I had a vegetable ramen near a shrine somewhere once and I was hungry! It arrived, I had a taste and instantly, something didn't seem quite right…an unfamiliar taste that smelled like a butcher's shop of horrors. I asked my friend what she thought and she sampled it and confirmed there was beef in the dashi
I don't need to add an emoji to be sarcastic. It was blatantly clear. And you're wrong, by the way. Meat wins in that it's also the highest source of protein. I'm pretty well educated, so i know this.
I honestly don't care about the conditions that animals live in, because in Genesis 9:3 of the Christian bible, God states that "Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything." I can watch an animal die in front of me and still eat it, because I have a God given right to do so. Yes, mistreating animals is not okay, but just because they're mistreated doesn't mean I wont eat their meat.
You've only addressed one minor aspect of meat. Assuming it's true that it's the highest source of protein that still doesn't address all the other aspects.
Killing animals if you need something from them isn't inhumane.
Once again you're showing a willful lack of knowledge.
gfi.org
www.choice.com.au
www.beyondmeat.com
Yes this is an interesting direction and it'll be a great way of reducing animal suffering and human deaths cause by saturated fats (they can alter the amount of fat present in the tissue). Fewer farm animals will be bred, much reducing their worldwide population and as a consequence, less methane will be produced allowing humans to burn more fossil fuels at dragster races/tractor pulls and flying in aeroplanes (
). Who knows, the odd farm animal may end up in zoos as a curiosity, mindlessly pacing up and down their enclosures next to the bears and big cats.
