Vegetarians in Japan

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The only fly in the ointment for me when visiting Japan are my admittedly self-imposed, dietary restrictions; I will not eat meat, fish or poultry and I usually lose about 3kg during a two week visit as a consequence (no bad thing). But it does mean my girlfriend and I regularly resort to unhealthy meals of crisps and 'Suntory Malts' or ramen without the dashi (I don't particularly enjoy ramen, but I'll eat it) I always visit Koyasan and the Shojin ryori I'm served there is the tastiest food I've ever had but eat this in regular restaurants elsewhere on the archipelago is prohibitively expensive.

Vegetarianism/veganism is hugely on the rise amongst Westerners and we increasingly visit Japan, so does anyone have any tips for vegetarian eating in Japan?
 
Japan is just as crap as ever for vegetarians. The consciousness that some people don't eat meat so would welcome a clearly labelled menu - it's not that difficult to put a green V next to meat-free dishes, is it? - has not yet reached Japan. (I'm still eating fish, but I cut out the meat several years ago.)

My recommendation: Tenya restaurants. You'll have to skip the miso soup but their vegetable tendon (don = stuff on rice) is great and only 650 yen. ENGLISH | TENDON TENYA
 
I have to say that Japan isn't the only country with little accommodation for veggies. In my experience, Germany is very poor too and I've ordered a salad to receive one sprinkled with little pieces of chopped ham! When I pointed out I requested a salad 'without meat', they will look at it and say, "There is no meat in this salad"! Eventually they took it away, simply picked out the non-meat ham and bring it back. I didn't eat it. It was a long week! It was about 15 years ago in Leipzig.
 
so does anyone have any tips for vegetarian eating in Japan?
If you're not vegan, I think it's possible to find sustenance.
I think most decent-sized cities have some Indian or Pakistani restaurants. They always have a veg selection.
Also if you go to izakaya there are usually a few selections that can add up to a meal. For example, mixed salad, agedashi-tofu, edamame, cheese pizza, yaki-onigiri, vegetable kushi-yaki, vegetable tempura, potato fry. Also you can eat all veg sushi. Japanese curry shops sometimes offer vegetarian curry. Some of the fast food restaurants -- Freshness Burger, MOS Burger, etc -- offer soy-based burgers.

What do you eat in the UK when you're not preparing your own food?
 
It is possible to have a nourishing but dull vegetarian diet by choosing various onigiri with seaweed, pickles, egg, etc. from shops like Family Mart. supermarkets often have an organic foods section where you can get various suitable foods, eg. oatmeal which you can mix with soy milk for breakfast. also dried veges like dried sweet potato and veges which can be eaten raw like celery. Try soft kombu.If you invest in a bowl and spoon you can buy excellent fruits which you can mix with yoghurt. In summary you can get enough protein and fresh fruit and veges. Healthier than a lot of the fried foods on offer, too.
 
If you're not vegan, I think it's possible to find sustenance.
I think most decent-sized cities have some Indian or Pakistani restaurants. They always have a veg selection.
Also if you go to izakaya there are usually a few selections that can add up to a meal. For example, mixed salad, agedashi-tofu, edamame, cheese pizza, yaki-onigiri, vegetable kushi-yaki, vegetable tempura, potato fry. Also you can eat all veg sushi. Japanese curry shops sometimes offer vegetarian curry. Some of the fast food restaurants -- Freshness Burger, MOS Burger, etc -- offer soy-based burgers.

What do you eat in the UK when you're not preparing your own food?
That's very helpful, thank you.

I feel that part of being on holiday in another country is partaking in their cuisine (within my self-imposed restrictions) sinI'd try and avoid Indian restaurants unless the effects of starvation was beginning to kick in!

I very rarely eat out these days for a couple of reasons: The sheer expense of restaurant food in the current geopolitical situation and the quality of food preparation after the COVID lockdowns seems to have plummeted; it just doesn't seem value for money. In fact I can't remember when I last ate in a restaurant!
 
It is possible to have a nourishing but dull vegetarian diet by choosing various onigiri with seaweed, pickles, egg, etc. from shops like Family Mart.
Yes Intried doing that, but with my kanji reading abilities being pretty low, I sometime doubt my ability to weed out those ingredients I want to avoid.
supermarkets often have an organic foods section where you can get various suitable foods, eg. oatmeal which you can mix with soy milk for breakfast. also dried veges like dried sweet potato and veges which can be eaten raw like celery. Try soft kombu.If you invest in a bowl and spoon you can buy excellent fruits which you can mix with yoghurt. In summary you can get enough protein and fresh fruit and veges. Healthier than a lot of the fried foods on offer, too.
Very useful, thank you.
 
I should add that Japan appears to be a 'gastronomic country' where good cuisine is celebrated. When I watch YouTube videos on channels by Mei Time, Maibaru Travel, YOLO LOG, Kansas Guide etc a large proportion of their output consists of them going to restaurants and showing you the food they're eating. It'd be nice to be part of that as much as possible.
 
Travel shows on Japanese TV, too, largely feature food and restaurant introductions, with celebrities shamelessly indulging in local delicacies—the weirder, the better. Unsurprisingly, food is an essential component of Japanese hedonism. :LOL:
 
A common misconception about our body is that it's like a 'fine F1 motor engine' requiring highly refined top quality fuel from a highly efficient gastrointestinal system. It's simply not true. When we were roaming the planes of Africa we ate very little indeed being on the verge of starvation most of the time; the odd starchy root, a grub here and there, a handful of berries if we were lucky. On rare occasions we'd down a wildebeest and gorge on meat for a few days but then it was back to months of virtual starvation! Meat was a rare addition to our diet. Our bodies evolved to subsist on that kind of impoverished diet and our gut evolved to extract the maximum nutrients it could from that diet. Our locomotion became very efficient burning very few calories (look up the 'exercise paradox') etc. So we're evolved to essentially be vegetarians.

If you look at the major diseases of industrialised people's (heart disease, stroke diabetes), they're usually down to overnutrition in some form.
 
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Being a carnivore in Japan was torture for me , LOL. I hated all vegetables , rice , most all seafood. I either ate on base and bought my food there or there was an American style hotel in Fukuoka that had a great restaurant. After I got married , my wife put an end to my bad eating habits , LOL.
 
As I've aged I've found things like fried foods and even pizza (something I'd've chosen as my 'death row last meal'!) pretty unpalatable. My other half eats very healthily so I tend to follow her example with the exception of bread which she never eats, but I like.
 
Two more that I've had and liked.

The curry chain Cocoichibanya does a good vegan curry, and, as a snack, the coffee chain Doutor has a tasty vegan soya (daizu) burger.
 
My question is how does anybody survive without eating meat?
Not hard at all. Humans need protein, not "meat." And there are a variety of protein sources. Though if you are vegan and remove all animal sources including cheese and dairy I think it's a lot harder.

A common misconception about our body is that it's like a 'fine F1 motor engine' requiring highly refined top quality fuel from a highly efficient gastrointestinal system. It's simply not true. When we were roaming the planes of Africa we ate very little indeed being on the verge of starvation most of the time; the odd starchy root, a grub here and there, a handful of berries if we were lucky. On rare occasions we'd down a wildebeest and gorge on meat for a few days but then it was back to months of virtual starvation! Meat was a rare addition to our diet. Our bodies evolved to subsist on that kind of impoverished diet and our gut evolved to extract the maximum nutrients it could from that diet. Our locomotion became very efficient burning very few calories (look up the 'exercise paradox') etc. So we're evolved to essentially be vegetarians.
I'm not sure I buy that theory -- just because humans were on a subsistence vegetarian diet thousands of years ago it doesn't necessarily mean modern humans are the same. And that may not even be true. Probably pre-humans ate a lot of insect protein. And is really true that most of the time they were starving. I don't think we have enough evidence to say that. When people lived during a stable climate period and had established migratory patterns along with their food sources, there was probably plenty to go around.

DNA is a lot more variable than originally thought. Even if the DNA is unchanged, gene expression can change within a single generation. And I'm sure our gut biomes are completely different now.
If you look at the major diseases of industrialised people's (heart disease, stroke diabetes), they're usually down to overnutrition in some form.
True.

Being a carnivore in Japan was torture for me , LOL. I hated all vegetables , rice , most all seafood. I either ate on base and bought my food there or there was an American style hotel in Fukuoka that had a great restaurant. After I got married , my wife put an end to my bad eating habits , LOL.
Not sure about those days, but it would be a great waste to do that today. Typical Japanese food is so much better than American food now.
 
How does anyone survive eating meat?

Well, they do – as witnessed by hundreds of millions of Indians for a start – so it seems a rather fatuous question. You assumption that you need meat to survive is demonstrably wrong.
 
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Not hard at all. Humans need protein, not "meat." And there are a variety of protein sources. Though if you are vegan and remove all animal sources including cheese and dairy I think it's a lot harder.
Harder meaning 'more inconvenient' with our food supply infrastructure. The proof of the (vegan) pudding is in the eating and there are many vegans living and indeed thriving, healthy lives
I'm not sure I buy that theory -- just because humans were on a subsistence vegetarian diet thousands of years ago it doesn't necessarily mean modern humans are the same.
Homo sapiens sapiens emerged between 200-300,000 years ago so we are essentially the same as those hominids.
Probably pre-humans ate a lot of insect protein.
Is there evidence for that; insect carapaces in human settlements for example, or is this conjecture?
And is really true that most of the time they were starving. I don't think we have enough evidence to say that.
The size of the population of Homo sapiens sapiens was very, very small and only started increasing with the transition from hunter/gathers to an agrarian culture. This is accounted for by availability of food. I think it's safe to say we were sufficiently hungry to put us off procreating (!) and/or to feed the young into adulthood.
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When people lived during a stable climate period and had established migratory patterns along with their food sources, there was probably plenty to go around.
And yet the population hardly changed in that period?
DNA is a lot more variable than originally thought. Even if the DNA is unchanged, gene expression can change within a single generation. And I'm sure our gut biomes are completely different now.
I'm not sure what you're trying to saying here. Incidentally, my gastroenterologist friend has been awarded £2million grant to research into altering the gut biome in alcoholics with…faecal transplants 🤢 The preliminary data are very significant!
Not sure about those days, but it would be a great waste to do that today. Typical Japanese food is so much better than American food now.
Eating grubs/berries/roots once a month is better than American (and British food)! 😆
 
Not hard at all. Humans need protein, not "meat." And there are a variety of protein sources. Though if you are vegan and remove all animal sources including cheese and dairy I think it's a lot harder.
I thought it was obvious that I was asking a sarcastic question.
 
How does anyone survive eating meat?

Well, they do – as witnessed by hundreds of millions of Indians for a start – so it seems a rather fatuous question. You assumption that you need meat to survive is demonstrably wrong.
I know you don't need meat to survive LOL, my mom is a vegetarian. It just seems so utterly stupid to not eat meat that unless you have some kind of digestion disorder that prevents you from eating meat, I'll just automatically group you with those idiots who say killing animals and eating them is murder, LOL.
 
I know you don't need meat to survive LOL, my mom is a vegetarian. It just seems so utterly stupid to not eat meat that unless you have some kind of digestion disorder that prevents you from eating meat, I'll just automatically group you with those idiots who say killing animals and eating them is murder, LOL.
Well, some people don't understand how meat eaters can have animals killed, on their behalf, in order to eat them, and yet those same people love their dog/cats/horses etc like their own children. You look into your dog's/cat's eyes and you can sense their sentience. Some countries eat cats/dogs/horses.

Then there's the idea of non-violence towards other creatures.

Then there's the dislike of cruel industrial farms with animals pumped full of chemicals

It's just where you, personally, set your own moral level and that's for the individual to think about and make a decision upon.

I have no doubt that when 'contact day' finally happens and intelligent life finally visits us on earth, they'll eat us😐
 
I know you don't need meat to survive LOL, my mom is a vegetarian. It just seems so utterly stupid to not eat meat that unless you have some kind of digestion disorder that prevents you from eating meat, I'll just automatically group you with those idiots who say killing animals and eating them is murder, LOL.
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I thought it was obvious that I was asking a sarcastic question.
I am honestly struggling with sarcasm online these days. I've recently read so many extraordinary views - I'm not referring to your posts here - made with apparent sincerity, that I'm finding it difficult to tell when people are being serious or not.

Kudos to your mother.
 
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Harder meaning 'more inconvenient' with our food supply infrastructure. The proof of the (vegan) pudding is in the eating and there are many vegans living and indeed thriving, healthy lives
Yes of course. Obviously if I lived in a place where the majority of society is vegan it wouldn't be hard at all.
Homo sapiens sapiens emerged between 200-300,000 years ago so we are essentially the same as those hominids.
From a DNA perspective perhaps but maybe not in so many other respects.
Is there evidence for that; insect carapaces in human settlements for example, or is this conjecture?
First of all there's common sense in that insects are high in protein, our closest relatives -- primates -- eat insects plus the fact that even some modern humans eat insects. And with a quick Internet query it seems there is substantial evidence:
  • Early Hominins and Tool Use: Evidence shows that early hominins like Australopithecus robustus used bone tools to extract termites from mounds, indicating insect consumption during the Late Pliocene and Early Pleistocene periods in South Africa
  • Coprolites (Fossilized Feces): Analysis of prehistoric human coprolites from caves in the USA, Mexico, and Peru has revealed insect remains, such as chitinous exoskeletons, suggesting direct consumption of ants, beetle larvae, grasshoppers, and other insects
  • Cave Art and Archaeological Evidence: Cave art in locations like Altamira in Spain and Les Trois Frères in France depicts insects alongside other food sources, hinting at their dietary significance. Engravings of edible insects and wild bee nests further support this
  • Nutritional Value: Insects were likely consumed for their abundance and high protein content before humans developed hunting tools or agricultural practices. This aligns with findings that early hominins relied on insects for protein before becoming proficient hunters
  • Biblical References: Historical texts such as the Bible mention insect consumption, including locusts as part of the diet in ancient Hebrew culture
The size of the population of Homo sapiens sapiens was very, very small and only started increasing with the transition from hunter/gathers to an agrarian culture. This is accounted for by availability of food. I think it's safe to say we were sufficiently hungry to put us off procreating (!) and/or to feed the young into adulthood.
I think it's safe to say they were resource-constrained. That is, they couldn't easily maintain larger populations in a migratory society given the length of time children need to be nurtured and other factors such as disease and high mortality rates. But that doesn't necessarily mean they were constantly starving as you said.

I'm not sure what you're trying to saying here. Incidentally, my gastroenterologist friend has been awarded £2million grant to research into altering the gut biome in alcoholics with…faecal transplants 🤢 The preliminary data are very significant!
I'm saying that you're saying that we are basically unchanged from early humans, I assume you are saying this because our DNA is the same. After the discovery of DNA people used to think that all of our traits are either innate or learned (nature vs nurture). But it turns out it's much more complex than that. Even with the same DNA, genes can express themselves difficulty depending on the environment. And not only that, the changes can be passed down to one's children. For example they found that extreme famine survivors had changes that were passed down to their children and grandchildren. (Look up epigenetics). And speaking of gut biome, we've learned that this has a huge influence on our health and bodies. In fact somebody was just telling me about this Netflix documentary where a woman tried fecal transplants to help with IBS. It helped but she developed an acne problem that the donor had. She switched donors and developed depression that the other donor had.
So I don't think it's logically correct to say that because ancient humans were mostly vegetarian and our DNA is basically the same as theirs, then we should also be mostly vegetarian. We are quite different from them in terms of environment, gut biomes, etc.
The are many good reasons to be vegetarian but this is not one of them.

I thought it was obvious that I was asking a sarcastic question.
If you want to be obvious you need to add an emoji.

I know you don't need meat to survive LOL, my mom is a vegetarian. It just seems so utterly stupid to not eat meat that unless you have some kind of digestion disorder that prevents you from eating meat, I'll just automatically group you with those idiots who say killing animals and eating them is murder, LOL.
This just shows you're not very well educated. If you actually looked into it you'd probably find that it's much more "stupid" to eat meat than not. And I say that as a meat eater. From just about any standpoint -- ethical, environmental, health -- vegetarian beats meat. Really the only thing meat wins is taste.

I have no doubt that when 'contact day' finally happens and intelligent life finally visits us on earth, they'll eat us😐
In general we assume the more advanced we get the less warlike and less likely to kill to eat we become. At least all the science fiction movies seem to think so. I may have seen this first here. I don't remember.
 
Another vegetarian source. Hotels usually have buffet meals which include vegetarian stuff.. Most of them seem to allow non-residents to come if they book ahead. I recently had an excellent vegetarian Indian breakfast at the APA Hotel in Fushimi-ekikita, Nagoya. I just dropped in, no booking required. If you investigate hotel meals wherever you happen to be, you might find good vege sources.
Another good venue us some train stations and shopping centres which have periodic farmers markets. Usually have vege meals. You could try googling them.
 
I know you don't need meat to survive LOL, my mom is a vegetarian. It just seems so utterly stupid to not eat meat that unless you have some kind of digestion disorder that prevents you from eating meat, I'll just automatically group you with those idiots who say killing animals and eating them is murder, LOL.
If you've ever seen meat mass production farms, I hope you'd think differently. It is absolutely revolting the conditions animals live in there. It's not the romantic notion of cows roaming the fields or pigs digging through dirt that some food producers tout. I don't mind eating meat, don't get me wrong, but I will not eat anything that isn't organic or that I haven't seen for myself how is raised. Here in Denmark we have strict rules about animal wellfare and organic meat has to meet the strictest criteria for space, access to the outside, room to roam on grass etc. 'Free-range' sounds great but doesn't necessarily mean anything other than access to the outside which could easily be a small, fenced in area with concrete flooring. And don't get me started on chicken farms.. >:-(
I will not mistreat animals to eat meat, is what it basically boils down to. And that's pretty easy to follow if you live in a place like Denmark.

In general we assume the more advanced we get the less warlike and less likely to kill to eat we become. At least all the science fiction movies seem to think so. I may have seen this first here. I don't remember.
I've seen that one before but I totally forgot about it. It is hilarious xD
 
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