USA the biggest threat to world peace.

[RegDunlap]

If USA stops bombing countries and wage wars the world will be more safe. I am not saying it will be perfect but more perfect than if US keeps bombing countries and ignoring international law.

The vast majority of conflicts on the planet now have nothing to do with US bombing. A LOT of them seem to have to do with Islam, however. Perhaps if we just banned Islam, the world would be safer still...

USA refuses to renounce the first strike use of nuclear weapons. It won't commit to refraining from using nuclear weapons against non-nuclear weapon states.

Why should they do this? What possible impact could this have?

USA refuses to sign a treaty to establish an international criminal court that could prosecute war crimes free from its interference.

Such a court would be useless to actually prosecute the real criminals in the world, such as Little Kim in North Korea.

USA refuses to sign a treaty banning land mines and cluster bombs.

Again, a worthless piece of paper. It is better that the US is honest about this than be hypocritical and sign it.

Most of what you are asking are empty, symbolic gestures that would accomplish exactly nothing. You want the world to be more peaceful? Get on board and help eliminate Islamofascism. Support democracy in countries like Iraq and Afghanistan. Vote with your wallet and refuse to buy goods from brutal human rights violators like Red China. THESE are meaningful gestures that will bring about both peace AND freedom.

 

[Hezam]

A LOT of them seem to have to do with Islam, however. Perhaps if we just banned Islam, the world would be safer still...

i don't accept with the benighted to talk about Islam in this way...

you still little to talk about Islam ...

you must understand Islam before say anything ....

read about Islam here

http://www.al-islam.com/eng/

http://www.islamtoday.net/toislam/toislam.cfm?toislam=1

http://www.55a.net/firas/english/

read it and reply again .......

 

[Haruspex]

I honestly have to admit, I didn't think much about that. But when I think about it for a second time, I have to agree with RegDunlap, those are just empty gestures. What is the likeliness of the USA going on an atomic-bombing-frenzy? Zilch.
Its cruel, indeed it is, but you know, I'd much rather support an agressor that has 23 000 - 30 000+ GDP, intentionally pushed down the worth of its currency, so it turns out that I can buy cheap, mostly quality American stuff, attempts to maintain a legitime government in the occupied countries (yes, even if its a USA collaborant one), doesn't try to "attack" advanced, "prosperous" countries in any way (terrorist bootcamps anyone?), and in general doesn't have a grudge against everything western, doesn't try to promote theocracy, doesn't threaten countries that don't celebrate thanksgiving (chador ban issues, anyone remembers?).

So yes, Islamic countries should deal with the terrorists. If they can't deal with them on their own, and they terrorize western countries, western countries will return the favor and purge the terrorists at a high cost, usually paid in innocent blood. Don't get it wrong, America isn't there for the thrill of killing innocent people, but every country knows the simplest rule of history and politics: If someone has to die, it better be them. America simply abides by that rule.
You blame America for going after the resources... please let me laugh, its obviously obvious. But could America invade a completely peaceful, prospering country? No, by not suppressing terrorism many of the countries mentioned earlier just shout:"Please invade us, our government is a mess, we have oil, we've got the terrorists too, so please Uncle Sam, invade us!4oneoneone11"

What that kinda attitude you can't blame anyone but yourself.

And you Carlos Santana, you probably shouldn't teach RegDunlap about religious tolerance after calling Jews a virus. You entirely lack self-criticism, go look for some, heard they were selling it for cheap in your local market, thats a better place for you to spend your time than these boards.

 

[Hezam]

And you Carlos Santana, you probably shouldn't teach RegDunlap about religious tolerance after calling Jews a virus

i mean the the Goverment Jewish in America ..not all Jewish ...you know that there are

more than 10.000 of Jewish in my hometown ( Yemen ) but they are not like the Jewish in the American Government .......

If i think all Christian people like you Ms.Derfel then i hate them ..

But I know there are a good Christian people better than you ....

i have many Christian Friends and i am happy to know them ..

you must understand me ...i dont hate the American ..but Bush and his Satan Group

thanks for Reply .......

best wishes
Hezam

 

[Haruspex]

Ms.Derfel

The pork you ate probably upset your stomach and now you have visions, please call me Mr. instead.

And don't be afraid, I know that most muslims are not fascists unlike one of them...

 

[Hezam]

we don't eat The pork ...you know it is dingy animal..

and i am not afried of anyone , i must be estimable when i talk to the other ..

and thanks ...

 

[Haruspex]

Lol you oughta open yer eyes and look at the

symbol just right to the Hungarian flag.
"And don't be afraid" is yet again a rhetorical tool, you can disregard the literal meaning. But only for your sake lets replace it with "Rest assured..." or "Don't worry..." or perhaps "Chill..".

But sure no sense of humor... overlooking the pork part haha.

 

[RegDunlap]

i don't accept with the benighted to talk about Islam in this way...
you still little to talk about Islam ...
you must understand Islam before say anything ....
read about Islam here
http://www.al-islam.com/eng/
http://www.islamtoday.net/toislam/toislam.cfm?toislam=1
http://www.55a.net/firas/english/
read it and reply again .......

Oh Carlos my friend, I know plenty about Islam.
Enough to see that it has a lot of trouble peacefully coexisting with other religions. Look at the conflicts in Sudan, Indonesia, Phillipines (sp), and so on. At its heart, Islam is intolerant and insecure. When Islam is the majority, all other religions are reduced to second class status. Please feel free to define ther terms;
jizya
dhimmi
kaffir
haram
taqqiya
caliphate
najis
for those who may not know them.

* * * * * * * * * *

Let me make this a little more palatable for some. APologies for coming on strong sometimes...

In my opinion, there is a greater threat than the USA. This is in the form of religion, since it crosses borders and often takes over cultures as well.
An example would be....... Islam. It has an entire vocabulary dedicated to conquering and putting down other religions.

Shall we start with "kaffir"? This is a term used in Islam to describe non-Muslims. However, it is extremely prejudicial in meaning and is quite derogatory. The closest equivalent I can find is "goyim" in Hebrew. Not in the same class though.

 

[ahmed A.kholy]

Oh Carlos my friend, I know plenty about Islam.
Enough to see that it has a lot of trouble peacefully coexisting with other religions. Look at the conflicts in Sudan, Indonesia, Phillipines (sp), and so on. At its heart, Islam is intolerant and insecure. When Islam is the majority, all other religions are reduced to second class status. Please feel free to define ther terms;
jizya
dhimmi
kaffir
haram
taqqiya
caliphate
najis
for those who may not know them.

hi ,RegDunlap
i want to say that, the islam to confess the the two other religoins jew and crystian ,
and i see that from words that you write ' you do not know alot about islam ' and you may see only films or media

Islam is not a new religion, but the same truth that God revealed through all His
prophets to every people. For a fifth of the world's population, Islam is both a religion
and a complete way of life. Muslims follow a religion of peace, mercy, and
forgiveness, and the majority have nothing to do with the extremely grave events
which have come to be associated with their faith

if you want to talk about peace you can read reports about crimes , divorce ,steeling , and extortion
you will find that the islamic nations is the least at most , let us talk about numbers

 

[Mars Man]

JUST IN CASE !! This thread is not about ISLAM at all !! Now the matter of a certain element within the groups which make up that belief-system had been mentioned in the passing of supporting an argument. If a person feels that is wrong, a person should deal with that matter, backing it up with particular evidence, and not general statements regarding the general belief-system.

Also I came close to deleting some other posts here which seemed to be headed in a flamming direction...but perhaps have subsided. Please, everyone, be careful in reading, be careful in giving considerations for differences in English abilities.

As of Sunday, 12:19 pm Japan time, I am making notice here that any more talk of matters of Islam on this thread will bring a temporary ban. Not having re-read this post will not be accepted as an excuse for ignorance of this fact. Mars Man

 

[maushan3]

I think it's true that it has to start from the ground up, in families, and even within each individual. If we could learn to live with ourselves and our families harmoniously, I think there would be a chance at world peace, because then it would spill outward, throughout a social group, then the country, then maybe the world.
But yes, world peace would not be just governments being at peace, but the people getting along together on a small scale. How could we have world peace when young people are going into schools and malls and shooting other people and then themselves? It would actually be a revolution for each individual person to come to terms with himself, because if everyone did that, there would be world peace.

Unfortunately mental illness have always existed and will exist for the next several years hence the chain reactions creating more and more violence. It's mother nature.

Mauricio

 

[Skullcrushergurl]

Hm. This is getting kind of heated I see. But I'm not really for America. If anything I'm against it. I simply think it's unfair to blame just America for no world peace. If America was gone, the middle east would probably find another target. Maybe Japan or Europe.

 

[centrajapan]

America was gone, the middle east would probably find another target. Maybe Japan or Europe.

Probably not. If America was gone the Middle East would be much more peaceful. Your opinion implies that people in Middle East are born violent. It is mainly due to American support of Israel who oppress the Palestinians why the Middle East is divided thus increasing the chance of a conflict. Iraq would not have been at war had it not been for USA. bin Laden would not have attacked New York had it not been for USA and Israel either.

US has after all bombed more countries and waged wars on more countries than any other country in the past 60 years. This is why US is the biggest obstacle to world peace.

 

[Skullcrushergurl]

Probably not. If America was gone the Middle East would be much more peaceful. Your opinion implies that people in Middle East are born violent. It is mainly due to American support of Israel who oppress the Palestinians why the Middle East is divided thus increasing the chance of a conflict. Iraq would not have been at war had it not been for USA. bin Laden would not have attacked New York had it not been for USA and Israel either.
US has after all bombed more countries and waged wars on more countries than any other country in the past 60 years. This is why US is the biggest obstacle to world peace.

And now you're saying it as if Americans are BORN violent.
I was pointing out the fact that some places in the Middle East want to force their religion on other countries. Even countries that do not have much religion. In Japan there is a lot of Buddism or so I've heard. In many middle eastern places there is a belief that thier religion is supreme and so on.

 

[centrajapan]

And now you're saying it as if Americans are BORN violent

No, I am saying the US government is making people violent.

 

[mimoza]

I didnt read the whole thread. So I'm just gonna say my opinion. I dont think USA is the biggest threat on earth. I just think they had their share of bad politicians. Im lebanese and I say it loud and clear arab politicians have alot to learn. They are greedy, hypocrites, conniving and none of them care about their people. Every country has its good and bad, unfortunately most of what we are witnessing is bad. In the end we are all humans, and all we want is to live in peace. If not for ourselves then for our next generation.

There's an old Arabic proverb that says, "One hand alone does not clap."

Peace out

 

[mimoza]

And now you're saying it as if Americans are BORN violent.
I was pointing out the fact that some places in the Middle East want to force their religion on other countries. Even countries that do not have much religion. In Japan there is a lot of Buddism or so I've heard. In many middle eastern places there is a belief that thier religion is supreme and so on.

I hope I dont get banned for this...
Could you please tell me where are these places that are forcing their religion on other countries? Ofcourse anyone would find their own religion supreme compared to others. Otherwise they wouldnt believe in it, would they? Sorry for going off topic. I just would like to have some answers.

 

[Doc]

Criticism of the country's foreign policy is dealt with by assigning dismissive labels to the critics anti-American, communists, terrorist. The criticisms themselves are never addressed.

Never addressed? Oh how little you know.

 

[Hezam]

Never addressed? Oh how little you know.

If you have some points say it...It's not Chit Chat here...

 

[bakaKanadajin]

centrajapan do you honestly believe the ONLY country contributing to world instability is the United States?

At the moment, the conference on global climate change happening in Bali is being stone-walled by three countries, the US, Canada and Japan. These three countries alone are holding back changes that would see greenhouse emissions reduced by 40% by the year 2020, a CRITICAL and much-needed change.

I'm ashamed to be a Canadian right now and I hope our government smartens up. Canada as a nation and government is guilty of damaging the environment for future generations right now as far as I'm concerned.

Each country is doing what it needs to do in order to maintain the almighty profit, the US just has more means and resources at it's disposal to do that with. When given the chance, even Canada, a beacon of middlepowermanship and diplomacy in the international community, can screw up royally because the voter are asleep at the wheel and have allowed the neo-cons to hijack the national agenda.

You're trying to chop a tree down by starting at the top, it won't work. If the US doesn't try to steal oil by blowing stuff up then China will, or India, or someone else. You're not necessarily wrong in your facts but your starting point is flawed.

 

[centrajapan]

centrajapan do you honestly believe the ONLY country contributing to world instability is the United States?

no but the biggest reason for instability.

 

[Skullcrushergurl]

no but the biggest reason for instability.

Tsk. That's BS. Other countries hate us because we have the best and always have.
We have luxuries and other places can't stand it. Other countries want what we have and they can't.
Get over it. Every country plays a part. It isn't like the U.S is just screwing up everything, going to other countries and taking land or robbing anyone.
Other places want what we have. There isn't instability--just jealously.

 

[Doc]

If you have some points say it...It's not Chet Chat here...

It's "Chit Chat" not "Chet Chat." Furthermore, it is insulting to me and anyone else from my country to know that you and other members think that Americans do not understand nor teach both the good and the bad from our nation's history. Obviously for you and others in this topic who are vehemently anti-American, it appears that the line of thought is that the American people as whole are stupid, ignorant barbarians who are the cause to all the world's problems, and need to be culled out of the pack known as the human race as quickly as possible. Thank you for such intellectually dishonest comments. It really shows you and other members know nothing when it comes to American society, or what is acknowledged and taught here. Please continue to believe all the crap you hear from our government, the media, and Hollywood. It is really doing you and the world a favor.

-Doc

 

[Hezam]

It's "Chit Chat" not "Chet Chat." Furthermore, it is insulting to me and anyone else from my country to know that you and other members think that Americans do not understand nor teach both the good and the bad from our nation's history. Obviously for you and others in this topic who are vehemently anti-American, it appears that the line of thought is that the American people as whole are stupid, ignorant barbarians who are the cause to all the world's problems, and need to be culled out of the pack known as the human race as quickly as possible. Thank you for such intellectually dishonest comments. It really shows you and other members know nothing when it comes to American society, or what is acknowledged and taught here. Please continue to believe all the crap you hear from our government, the media, and Hollywood. It is really doing you and the world a favor.

Oh Doc san ..we don't mean that !!

we mean the Government not the people ..we never said " the people "

read all the replys to ensure ,,,

my uncle and his son's are in US ...I don't think you are bad or threat ..

you are one of the people ...do you agree with the government who fight us ?

i think you understood what i mean ^^

best wishes
Hezam

 

[Sarapva]

It's easy to have misunderstandings between people in different countries. There are so many cultural differences that sometimes a word or phrase gets misunderstood to mean something completely different from what was actually meant.

I think we're all basically the same all over the world. I've traveled some in third world countries, and the people I met there were basically the same as people I know in the U.S. I'm not talking about standard of living, but the essence of the person.

I don't agree with everything our government is doing, and I think we're contributing both to conflict and to peace in different ways. I am looking forward to a change in our government next year when we elect a new president.