Help Sword I am trying to translate

zerofoxgibbon · 25 Mar 2023

Hello, I am new to the platform, and I was advised to create a new thread regarding the sword I am trying to translate. I am having a lot of trouble with this one, I do believe I may have the swordsmith's clan, however I am not sure on that. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Majestic · 25 Mar 2023

I think this is forgery ("gimei" as we say in the sword world). The sword world is full of forgeries. It isn't unusual.

The inscription is trying to say
摂津守源忠行
Setsu-no-kami Minamoto Tadayuki

But the "Tada" looks funny, and the patina on the sword's tang looks a bit off.

zerofoxgibbon · 26 Mar 2023

the only way to know for sure would be to get it authenticated?

Majestic · 26 Mar 2023

I don't think its worth the effort to get it authenticated. I'm pretty sure its a fake.
This is what a real one looks like

−　摂州守源忠行（業物） Settsunokami Minamoto Tadayuki　−　日本刀の通信販売　明倫産業株式会社

Yours looks like an exact replica of the one in this thread

摂津守源忠行

Hello, I am being offered a sword, it looks to me like a replica, but I want to check if the signature it has actually means something. Could be a newer rawblade or China make, don't know... I will appreciate it if someone could transliterate this mei for me, maybe it can give me some other tips...

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Grandpa Frank · 26 Mar 2023

It seems a million fake flags , swords, and other items are out and about. Owning one is nothing bad , unless you paid out a ton of money for a fake. It seems making fakes and copies of all types of items has been a world wide business practice for many years. If it were me , I'd hang it on the wall and make up a super good story to go with it , like maybe it was used in the movie "Kill Bill" and who will know the difference . I would give Majestic a 99.9% approval rate on his takes on items , he's been doing it quite a while.

zerofoxgibbon · 26 Mar 2023

Lol. Not a bad idea, it's actually for sale and I was thinking about purchasing it, but looking at it next to a real one it's not even close… not sure if I'll get it or not, I did already talk him down from 1000$ to only $300 but idk if it's even worth that when I could just buy a brand new one for that price. Here is this one next to a real one …..

PS - thank you so much for helping, the translation was dead on the money

Dentanmono · 27 Mar 2023

zerofoxgibbon said:
I did already talk him down from 1000$ to only $300

Either you have amazing charisma, or the seller might know it is a fake. Fair condition Type 95's were going for a minimum of $600 (at least when I was in the market a few years ago) or more so I would be incredulous that the seller would be willing to give a such a discount for a "rarer" sword.

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