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Here in the US we are led to believe by our media that it WAS Russia that started the "war", but if one does some research, one comes to find that it WAS Georgia who started it and Russia was well prepared with intelligence as to when it would happen. I wonder if the fact that there were 1,000 Israeli "advisors", 1,000 US "advisors", and 1,000 US marines in country might have had something to do with it?
Make no mistake about it, it was all about the control of the gas and oil pipelines coming out of the Caspian Region. Western oil companies, including Isreaeli firms, probably desire to route oil pipelines out of the Caspian Region from Azurbaijan and the gas lines from Turkmenistan, which transit Georgia, through Turkey instead of hooking them up to Russian pipelines.
Jerusalem owns a strong interest in Caspian oil and gas pipelines that reach the Turkish port of Ceyham, rather than the Russian network. The oil would then flow to Israel's oil terminal at Ashkelon and on to it's Red Sea Port of Eilat. From there supertankers can carry gas and oil to the Far East (China and Japan?) through the Indian Ocean.
Or, they could just simply ship it directly to China through the preexisting pipelines in Kazakhstan...
Does anyone really believe it was about independence for a small area of Georgia? HA!
PS - Lets not get too serious here.
You can say what you want noyhauser, but it seems, to me, you are one of the "sheeple" who believe any and all news fed to you by your local media. Call me a conspiracy nut if you must, but you are sadly misinformed and need to do a little more research than what you get from your controlled media. My link above regarding "Faux" News proves my point as one can easily see that Shepard Smith is looking at his producers who are telling him to cut the interview short and go to commercial and the dumbfounded look on his face. His strings were being pulled.
My understanding of the issue is well founded and based on fact, not just what I read or hear from the local media. I suggest you do the same and you may as well be turned as I was that the media is lying to us.
Please show me your links to news that says I am wrong or that there were no military advisors from Israel and the US in Georgia and that there were no US marines. Please read this story, do further research and tell me I am wrong. I am just looking for the truth and, if you prove me wrong, I will gladly say so as I am not infallible. There are plenty of stories in opposition to the US version including the video above.
Once you understand that your local news is just propaganda and that there are forces way above your government that control all things happening today will you come to understand what is going on around you and that you are the atypical person "they" are hoping to persuade as your posts prove.
Are you wrong for your views? No. IMO You are just misguided and need to wake up to just what type of wool is being pulled over your eyes. I was once of the view that you hold but, in my attempt to prove the conspiracy theorists wrong, I stumbled upon the real truth. Hopefully, you also will also come to understand. If not, then more power to you. Just please provide links to views that you espouse besides the local media.
To say that this is just not a psychological game between the US and Russia with Georgia being the pawn for control of the oil and gas pipelines and thousands of "expendables" being killed in the process, just shows your ignorance to what is really happening. It's all about power and control of oil and gas, just like in Iraq. If civilians get killed in the process so be it. It's the control that matters to "them". Always has been throughout history and always will be.To quote Rice is a joke as she is a puppet also and does what her masters tell her to do. Remember, she also has a stake in the oil industry as she was once a board member of Exxon Corporation I believe. Bush and Cheney also have stakes in oil.
In the end, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this subject, but the truth will soon bare itself. However, I believe this was concocted to get McCain into the presidency this year. If I am wrong, I will gladly say so. Thanks for your input anyway as I will always follow up on your links and enjoy your posts, but something still seems "rotten in Denmark." We may never know the full truth, but I do know it is NOT what we are being fed from our propaganda machines on TV and in print.
I am an evil guy here - Russian. Tell me how bad we are, as if I haven't heard enough, I live in a rather anti-Russian Western country and read.Gorgia has asked for a membership in the European Union. I guess that Russia is showing us all that she does not want the EU next door. None of the old states of the what once was U.S.S.R. should go to the EU. Or else ... Russia is showing off her power.