Right wing japanese.

TwistedMac · 23 Jul 2004

"get the foreigners out of japan!"

my questions are:
how common is this? is this something you see *all the time*?
how is it recieved? do most japanese agree? do most japanese agree (but only behind locked doors) or do most japanese consider them basically the same as when we see racists yelling in the street? or is it somewhere in between?

picture is courtesy of Ken Lee (Kentokyo)

edit: trekearth arent big fans of linking pics, so i hosted it on my own server...

PaulTB · 23 Jul 2004

TwistedMac said:
picture is courtesy of Ken Lee (Kentokyo)

Dude. You've been totally bandwidth-stealer-switch-piccy'ed.

[EDIT] Hmm, NOW it appears ... :?

TwistedMac · 23 Jul 2004

aaaah, it's one of them XD, i'll just host it on my site then =P.. didnt know since it shows up to me since i've loaded the pic before..=P

PaulTB said:
Hmm, NOW it appears ... :?

that's cuz you clicked the link with his name right? ^^ it's a link to the original place of the pic... which would make you load it =P

PaulTB · 23 Jul 2004

TwistedMac said:
aaaah, it's one of them XD, i'll just host it on my site then =P.. didnt know since it shows up to me since i've loaded the pic before..=P

I suspect it displays after you've visited their site. How do they do that? (Actually I've got a rough idea - I just want to annoy mikecash with extra smilies ) [EDIT] And there it disappears again ...

Anyway to answer your question as much as I can (e.g. not very) as far as I know mainstream Japan doesn't have any more sympathy for rightwing extremests (<- damn I can't spell that word) than, say, the UK* does.

* e.g. a touch less than France and the US do at the moment

Mike Cash · 23 Jul 2004

More than being annoyed by the gratuitous smilies, I'm curious how he arrived at the idea that the uyoku's obsession has to do with getting foreigners out of Japan.

TwistedMac · 23 Jul 2004

i don't much know what the uyoku is -_- sorry.. the taker of the picture claimed it to be something of the sorts here

PaulTB · 23 Jul 2004

mikecash said:
More than being annoyed by the gratuitous smilies, I'm curious how he arrived at the idea that the uyoku's obsession has to do with getting foreigners out of Japan.

Obsession by association? [EDIT] On second throughts he's probably been reading this guy's stuff. Personally I thought their obsession was power - same as all the rest.

Anyway on your behalf, and probably others, I've suggested option to kill display of smilies.

edit: trekearth arent big fans of linking pics, so i hosted it on my own server...

Watch the bandwidth ...

RockLee · 23 Jul 2004

he's from SWEDEN???? he has like UNLIMITED BANDWIDTH Grrrrr and 10 MBit ul/dl

TwistedMac · 23 Jul 2004

and my webhotell is owned by a friend of mine.. so it's all gewd ^^

edit: woah Paul, that link is just filled to the brim with hate towards immigrants exposed O_O assuming all the quotes are true ofcourse..

canadian_kor · 23 Jul 2004

I wonder if these people are linked with this movement:

http://www.nsjap.com/axis/home.html?

Grandpa Frank · 23 Jul 2004

The Good Ol Days??

Back in the early 70's there was 1 week a year we were susposed to stay on base & out of town(Fukuoka).
One week a year, there were anti-war protests,anti-nuke protests, anti American protests,etc. . I lived off base in town and never once had a single soul bother me. I always thought it was great that they crammed there so called "hate" into 1 week a year! I had the feeling the majority of protesters were there as part of their job or obbligation to some cause, not because of deep felt feelings?

Frank

:?

TwistedMac · 23 Jul 2004

canadian_kor said:
I wonder if these people are linked with this movement:

http://www.nsjap.com/axis/home.html?

holy moley... nazism reborn i'm pretty much speechless... they sport a on their site.. guess they'd have to..

"It should also be remembered that such Jews as Albert Einstein, Leo Szilard (Spitz), Edward Teller, Eugene (Jeno) Wigner, and Robert Oppenheimer brought us the atomic holocaust of Hiroshima and Nagasaki."

senseiman · 23 Jul 2004

I see those *** holes in their black vans blaring their propoganda pretty often. I hate those guys, really. My father in-law is a politician affiliated with the social democratic party. When my wife was a child, those bastards used to drive up in front of their house with their music blaring in an attempt to terrorize his whole family because they disagreed with his politics. They are a bunch of cowardly, low life scum of the earth and they'd be doing us all a favor if they just commited ritual suicide.

Wang · 23 Jul 2004

canadian_kor said:
I wonder if these people are linked with this movement:

http://www.nsjap.com/axis/home.html?

No nsjap is a standalone rightwing organization, that doesn't fit into the standard Japanese rightwing organizations.

Gaki · 24 Jul 2004

canadian_kor said:
I wonder if these people are linked with this movement:

http://www.nsjap.com/axis/home.html?

Everytime i see that site it makes me laugh.

canadian_kor · 24 Jul 2004

Gaki said:
Everytime i see that site it makes me laugh.

Well, they seem to have relations with the NSDAP in Germany. The only problem is I wonder if the German NSDAP members consider Japanese people as racial allies. I read a Hitler biography where he called Japanese people "yellow skinned and slit-eyed" people. And that the Nazis would eventually have to attack Japan after all the other countries were conquered or subjugated. I wonder if many members of the NSJAP know that little secret of Hitler.

Duo · 24 Jul 2004

Don't these people realize that without foreigners Japan would probaply still be some primitive feudal society type of place? I mean the West "forced" them out of feudality when and then saved them again from a right-wing government. If Japan would remain isolated they would "die" seeing as they have no resources at all. Think think think, this is my message to these right wingers.

PaulTB · 24 Jul 2004

Gaki said:
Everytime i see that site it makes me laugh.

Why exactly do they have an English version of their web site I wonder ? :?

canadian_kor · 24 Jul 2004

Duo said:
Don't these people realize that without foreigners Japan would probaply still be some primitive feudal society type of place? I mean the West "forced" them out of feudality when and then saved them again from a right-wing government. If Japan would remain isolated they would "die" seeing as they have no resources at all. Think think think, this is my message to these right wingers.

I think a lot of these people want to return to the old Japan of the Shogunate era. I think there is still this romanticism about the old feudal era by many modern Japanese. I also think that modern advancements is something they would give up for the return to old Japan.

kirei_na_me · 24 Jul 2004

My husband was in a wreck involving a couple of those guys one time and they were trying to squeeze him out of every dime he had...until they found out about his friend. These guys are scared of the yakuza, I've heard.

Duo · 24 Jul 2004

canadian_kor said:
I think a lot of these people want to return to the old Japan of the Shogunate era. I think there is still this romanticism about the old feudal era by many modern Japanese. I also think that modern advancements is something they would give up for the return to old Japan.

Sure, the shogunate era was a lotta fun for samurai and damyo, having servants, concubines and the finer things in life such as wonderful swords that you could test on whomever was lower in social status than you. But for the farmers and other people it probaply was hell. I feel that the samurai period is too much romanticised with brave warriors fearless and what not. I wish for once they'd have a movie about the suffering of innocent peasants who had to put up with all that abuse.

bossel · 24 Jul 2004

canadian_kor said:
Well, they seem to have relations with the NSDAP in Germany. The only problem is I wonder if the German NSDAP members consider Japanese people as racial allies. I read a Hitler biography where he called Japanese people "yellow skinned and slit-eyed" people. And that the Nazis would eventually have to attack Japan after all the other countries were conquered or subjugated. I wonder if many members of the NSJAP know that little secret of Hitler.

:? There is no NSDAP in Germany anymore. Disappeared in 1945.

Gaki · 24 Jul 2004

canadian_kor said:
And that the Nazis would eventually have to attack Japan after all the other countries were conquered or subjugated. I wonder if many members of the NSJAP know that little secret of Hitler.

That's the funny part about it, they mention about their brotherhood with the European Nazi parties but at the end of the day those people are out for the Aryan race and no one else.
Notice how their site links off to other sites and those sites DONT link back to them.

If anything they make a mockery out of their own people, there's like a whole article explaining how they and the other Aryan races are related by DNA. Do they really beleive that people are gonna accept them as white?

Probably 90% of the site is filled with flawed "facts", these kind of people read what they want to read and leave out everything else.

Arch · 24 Jul 2004

canadian_kor said:
I wonder if these people are linked with this movement:

http://www.nsjap.com/axis/home.html?

what these idiots ??? seem like a bunch of thugs to me. Why dont that get with the times and understand its changed !!!

canadian_kor · 25 Jul 2004

bossel said:
:? There is no NSDAP in Germany anymore. Disappeared in 1945.

Are you sure? Check here:

Nazi Lauck NSDAP-AO Flags Posters Books Movies Films German Military Marches Pictures Art Militaria

Or here:

kds-im-netz.de

Gaki said:
That's the funny part about it, they mention about their brotherhood with the European Nazi parties but at the end of the day those people are out for the Aryan race and no one else.
Notice how their site links off to other sites and those sites DONT link back to them.

If anything they make a mockery out of their own people, there's like a whole article explaining how they and the other Aryan races are related by DNA. Do they really beleive that people are gonna accept them as white?

Probably 90% of the site is filled with flawed "facts", these kind of people read what they want to read and leave out everything else.

They make a big deal of how the Japanese come from the Turanian racial stock and how these Turanians are related to the Indo-Europeans. Last time I checked Turanians (like Turks, Kazakhs, Samoyeds, etc.) speak a Ural-Altaic language. Read any book on Hitler or the Nazis and you'll discover that they considered Italians or Spanish as more racial brothers than the Japanese (for the Nazis allying with Japan was more a matter of convenience than racial philosophy).

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