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Randy young couples play scrub-a-dub at rural hot springs

RockLee

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Wouldn't want to be the customer after them ;-)

Yeah, it's the big money these days.

Oh boy, wish they would've come into my spa !! Why do those old geezers have all the luck !

hmm, kind of reminds me of the orgies at the Great Wall.

Hmm, partner exchange is getting popular in Japan too huh :? Guess we pretty much ruined the Japanese their values.

It might be, but if they can handle people with tattoos, they must have a way to prevent people from making the onsen into a place for orgies :?


source: http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai/news/20051006p2g00m0dm003000c.htm
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I think segregated bathing is a pretty good way of keeping this kind of behaviour at bay, but it could be damaging to business as these young couples go elsewhere for their rendezvous... I suppose the onsen and ryokan have to choose between their traditional morals and the profits produced by offering co-ed baths.

I wonder, however, where this kind of behaviour came from; is it truly due to western influences, or would these sentiments arise without the aid of outside sources.
 
I wouldn't say this is Western influence. Are Westerners the only ones who have sex? In any case the Japanese attitude to sex is much more liberal than Christian based societies I would say. Unless it's the Swedes and their spas in the North, how often do you see orgies in public baths in the West? How often do you see public baths like in Japan?
 
mmmm...

I can see how this story could be true, but I don't see it as very common through-out Japan. I for one, have been to over 1500 different onsens and not once have I seen swinger couple do the things that the author of Mainichi mentioned.

Sure, when I'm with my significant other we do have sex in private baths, why not ? It's the perfect set-up; nature, water, and intimacy all mixed together especially if you have children and you need a chance to get away.

As far as western influence, well, I think most of you are dead wrong ! It's a shame how quickly people point their finger at the west for every negative influence Japan has ever had, like the Japanese are morally without stain ?
It was because of western influence that you have segregated bathing in Japan today, remember the missionaries who came here? ! The idea of mixed bathing is completely indigenous to Japan by all means. In fact, most Japanese have no problem when it comes to mixed bathing; it's the Americans who have a problem with mix bathing let alone getting naked in front of strange people !
 
Ah.....

The good ol' Mainichi.

I think maybe, some of the stories they print in the wai wai lane are sorta true.







Fun read.
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Let me add to that. Speaking from personal experience the hanky-panky does happen alot at onsen resorts.

Try this place.
 
McTojo said:
it's the Americans who have a problem with mix bathing let alone getting naked in front of strange people !
And a huge part of the world too.Mainly western people who are brought up with seperated bathing etc. ☝ But who the hell are we(western folks) to say mixed is wrong :?

I think this article has a huge wai wai factor, but there is truth in it.Also you can't deny we western people had a great influence in Japan's current society.
 
Im sure people have been getting frisky in the springs for hundreds of years, its just never been a wide spread issue and i don't think it is now(although i've never been to japan, its probably as common as people making out in hotel swimming pools and hot tubs at night over here in England, that is to say, it does go on but it still seems pretty rare).
I havn't been to japan yet but i'd definatly like to once i scrape up some spare cash and some holiday time and take a couple of courses in learning japanese, i'd like to go to a hot spring but to be honest im not sure on how embarrassed/shy i'd be in going to a public bath myself.
 
Hmm, partner exchange is getting popular in Japan too huh Guess we pretty much ruined the Japanese their values.

Im afraid not...anyone who's anything more then blind has already seen that japanese popular culture has a high level of interest in sexuality, japan is a country where bussiness men quite happily read rape manga on a train home. ☝

Look at it this way, having sex at a public swimming-pool is frowned upon heavily in most western cultures, so its hardly bad influence on our part, infact, we dont even commonly have this idea of bathing naked in public, which is why we wear bathnig suits when we go to swimming-pools.

Nah, it was just a matter of time, before japans obsession with sex caught up the public baths.

But maybe, they could make love-bath resorts instead, so these couples could have somewhere dedicated to it rather then goint to public family baths or something :S.

Better then telling young japanese to not have sex, what with a falling population, it needs all the help it can get.
 
nurizeko said:
Im afraid not...anyone who's anything more then blind has already seen that japanese popular culture has a high level of interest in sexuality, japan is a country where bussiness men quite happily read rape manga on a train home. ☝
I don't understand what you mean by this.So you're saying businessmen are the popular culture of Japan :?And all the businessmen read hentai on the train? Isn't that a bit of a generalization?

Erm, you can't compare an onsen with a pool =.=; It's totally different.You don't swim in an onsen lol.


Nah, it was just a matter of time, before japans obsession with sex caught up the public baths.
It's not something that caught up recently, it already exists for a long long time.


But maybe, they could make love-bath resorts instead, so these couples could have somewhere dedicated to it rather then goint to public family baths or something :S.
that's why love-hotels exist.

Better then telling young japanese to not have sex, what with a falling population, it needs all the help it can get.
They need to understand what save sex is, recently the number of AIDS-patients has gone up with all the sexcrazed young'ones ☝
 
Sex & segregation in the public bath houses

Sex in the onsens as one kind of public bathhouse should be nothing new if the wiki passages are to be trusted. Sentō (窶婁窶懌?? 窶堋ケ窶堙ア窶堙??堋、)
 
RockLee said:
I don't understand what you mean by this.So you're saying businessmen are the popular culture of Japan :?And all the businessmen read hentai on the train? Isn't that a bit of a generalization?

No, im saying that people, in the west considored well to do mannered adults, who arnt known for reading hentai or watching pornography on a bus/train home, are more likely to do so in japan, it was pointing out the massive influence of sex and eroticism in japanese mainstream and popular culture.

Erm, you can't compare an onsen with a pool =.=; It's totally different.You don't swim in an onsen lol.

Unfortunately, most western countries arnt known for public bathing, we have public swimming again, but the concept is close enough, they do have jekuzi's ro whatever their called at most reasonably sized public swimming pools, showers, but we dont go to them naked, it stands to reason that if you can bath naked you can technically swim naked, but we dont, hence i was simply pointing out its unlikely a western influence, ive never read a news article regarding a couple having sex at a public swimming pool, though no doubt its possibly occured somewhere where it didnt make news all the way where i live.


It's not something that caught up recently, it already exists for a long long time.

Indeed.


that's why love-hotels exist.

But its clear that these young couples seem to have an interest in having sex in a hot-spring/public bath.
Though its most likely in most cases done for the danger aspect of it, going against all the japanese social norms and having *cough*descreet*cough* sex in a public establishment, it was merely an off-the-top of my head idea to help this problem, in the west there are companies that do couple-only holidays/vacations so, it stands to reason the same thing can be applied to some bath-houses and hot-springs, and as some of the management staff have said, its not really much of an option to turn bussiness away.


They need to understand what save sex is, recently the number of AIDS-patients has gone up with all the sexcrazed young'ones ☝

Well, thats another debate for another thread, safe sex should be common sense, though, also i would also like to think that most young couples are committed enough to relationships that the threat of getting aids in the relationship is slim to nil if both dont have it.

Commodore Perry visited Japan in 1853 and 1854, he was displeased about the lack of morals due to mixed sex bathing. Subsequently, the Tokugawa shogunate prohibited mixed sex bathing again.

Ah a good old reminder of the old western habit of arrogance and ignorance.

Japanese like sex, instead of fighting it, harness it, and teach the value of safety.
 
Do you have statistics that prove foreign guys in Japan tend to read hentai on trains? I think they still will feel uncomfortable reading hentai on a train, even if they are in Japan.

Think again, why do you think there are so many kids with aids...


Japanese like sex, instead of fighting it, harness it, and teach the value of safety.
From what I have heard, sexual education is almost non existant, hence the fact to many young people don't have safe sex and SOA's and AIDS occur more and more
 
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