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Thilia

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I really need some help here... I'm designing a new hoodie for my karate club and I want it all right. Our motto is Effort - Patience - Politeness and I need to get the signs right. Here's what I have:
Effort = 努
Patience = 忍耐
Politeness = 礼儀

Here is a picture of the symbols on the hoodie we have now.



I really hope someone can help me...

Thanks in advance

 

Damicci

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Looks like effort should be
努力 - どりょく Doryoku

 

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Thilia

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I can't change the symbols... Our sensei set them, so I have to use them... Sorry

 

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Andromedashun

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Your picture is right to me but patience is more like 我慢 (がまん)

 

Damicci

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I am not changing the characters.
If you look at your pic you attatched you are missing a character in effort. There are 2 characters and in your post you only have one.

 

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Thilia

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I see what you mean, they're on top of each other

 

nekojita

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note: 努力 is two characters and must be written as such, regardless of whether you do them horizontally or vertically.

This might seem obvious but I have seen goofs such as someone taking the word 折紙 and writing it vertically in four pieces (so making 紙 into 糸＋氏 ). This was on an actual item for sale in a store (bad package designer, no biscuit).

The layout in the original shirt is fine so best to just stick to something similar if you're not familiar with the language.

 

Toritoribe

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Andromedashun said:

Your picture is right to me but patience is more like 我慢 (がまん)

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So, you must know the difference between 忍耐 and 我慢. Can I ask you to explain it to me? I believed they were the same in meaning.

 

Mike Cash

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I'd use 辛抱

 

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Andromedashun

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Toritoribe said:

So, you must know the difference between 忍耐 and 我慢. Can I ask you to explain it to me? I believed they were the same in meaning.

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I just feel that 我慢 is more popular. I could be wrong though...

 

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Thilia

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Good morning!

Thanks for all the replies.
If I'm not mistaken, the original was made by our sensei Tsutom Watanabe way back. (The guy looks like he's a 100 years old, but with a body of a 18 year old...)
Effort = 努
Patience = 忍耐
Politeness = 礼儀
As I understand these symbols are the same as on the hoodie. (kind of hard to figure out some of them...) Am I right?

Have a lovely day!

Thilia

 

Mike Cash

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You missed the two characters in 努力 again.....