You are right. When you don't agree with the conduct by the cop, just go to court.
I just asked Kirin about his friend hoping I can see as many Japanese posters as possible here.
And don't worry no dropping our pants clause in the Art of War.
That doesn't matter. I'm sure there would be a few people that would drop their paints if the police asked them to. That doesn't mean everybody should, though.
I don't see how a cop requesting an ID is worth a trial in court.
He did that believing he'd prevent crime
Why make a big deal out of it when you have nothing to worry about..?
But taking an ID request to court? Flash the ID card and get it over with. A matter of 20 seconds.
Even if it's illegal?
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It was you who kindly brought the law here. It IS legal for cops in Japan to stop & question somebody.
Did you read the law I posted?
Please read it before commenting again.
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Next time I see him I will.KirinMan, ask your good friend what he would do in the same situation like Debito.
I feel sorry for Debito or other passengers at Chitose Airport, but many would show his/her cooperation with cops in that special occasion.
I've said before that I think Japan has 3 choices:
before that, The foreigner should discuss it in Japanese if you want to change.
Otenba said:On the other hand, I also agreee on "love it or leave it" as nobody is forced to live in a place they keep complaining about.
I don't know what he actually did, but he clearly said he did watch the cop for quite some time. And when we believe what he said that he went to the station after the conversation, he took the action to take photos or else. I don't know how moral his actions are, though.1) Debito in the airport
Debito walks through the airport and gets asked for his id (he wasn't 'hanging around' at that point.) Japanese laws state that the police must suspect you of a crime (or potential crime) before they can ask for id.
So either
a) The police officer didn't suspect him of a (potential) crime, and was thus acting illegally
b) He did suspect Debito of a (potential) crime based on his looks, which is legal (in Japan) but immoral (in most places except Japan)
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I don't know what he actually did, but he clearly said he did watch the cop for quite some time.
It is great of the British long tradition for their unarmed police, but even for them they use guns in a certain situation and killed an innocent person.
If their conduct is wrong, people have a right to access to court, right? It is the same here as the criminal's appeal above was unfortunately rejected whose claim that the search by the police was intolerable human right abuse.
When you are in the similar situation like Debito, please go to court.
Well said Elizabeth. I have a good friend who happens to have an American father and Japanese mother, he is blond haired, blue eyed and has absolutely no obvious Japanese or Asian features.
Oh and he also speaks zero English too, having been born and raised in Japan and went through the Japanese school system here. He only has Japanese citizenship as well, as his parents got divorced when he was a young child.
I wonder what nationality Otenba would take him for? But since he doesnt look Japanese I guess that disqualifies him from being such.
Otenba I think has much to learn about what the difference between a nationality and race are.