I didn't see the movie but I don't think 窶佚･窶詫 is very commonly used in everyday language at all. For one thing, it could be too easily confused with large mouse or large rat, which is ookina nezumi.Well, like undrentide said, ﾆ停?ｰﾆ鍛ﾆ暖 is specifically a lab rat. I'm curious about 窶佚･窶詫, though, as it doesn't show up in 窶佚･ﾅｽﾂｫ窶氾? 窶督ｾ窶ｹﾂｾﾂ坂?佛津ｪﾅｽﾂｫ窶弋, the EXCEED dictionary, or 窶ｰpﾅｽﾂｫﾋ弸. It's in Random House, though, and I'm pretty sure I heard it in Kill Bill
Mozuku
a seaweed of the family Spermatochnaceae
'Konbu' is simply 'kelp'. 'Mozuku' is not native to Europe or North America, but the proper English word (from Latin) is "cladosiphon okamuranus".Due to my poor English skill, I always find it difficult to explain Japanese dishes using seaweed to well-educated Europeans. I know kombu is getting popular among veggies, though.
窶禿??ｹﾂ (oushi) and 窶ｰﾂｲ窶ｹﾂ (meushi), 窶ｰﾂｲﾅｽﾂｭ (ojika) and ﾅｽ窶愬ｽﾂｭ (mejika), 窶悩ﾅ畜 (ondori) and ﾅｽ窶懌?卍ｹ (mendori) - those words work fine, and we do distinguish male and female.But it is unthinkable for speakers of European languages not to distinguish between a cow and a bull, a stag and a doe, or a rooster and a hen.
But it is just like saying "male cattle" and "female cattle", "male deer" and "female deer", or "male chicken" and "female chicken" in English. Of cours you can always give nuances to nouns by using adjectives. But in this case itjust sounds childish and primitive.窶禿??ｹﾂ (oushi) and 窶ｰﾂｲ窶ｹﾂ (meushi), 窶ｰﾂｲﾅｽﾂｭ (ojika) and ﾅｽ窶愬ｽﾂｭ (mejika), 窶悩ﾅ畜 (ondori) and ﾅｽ窶懌?卍ｹ (mendori) - those words work fine, and we do distinguish male and female.
Are you supposing by saying this that English, or other European languages, do not have special terms to describe hair colour ? Not only there are, but as you are mentioning it, European languages naturally have more adjectives for human hair colours too (normal, Asians all have black hair), with dozens of nuances. I found 43 hair colours on Wikipedia. If we go further, we will also notice that English has at least twice more colour names than Japanese (check the list of colours in English or webcolours in English and the list of colours in Japanese).Talking about horse, in Japanese language we have special words to call certain colour of horse, or the horse with that colour.
ﾂ静や?禿 aoge : deep balck including mane and tail.
ﾅ棚窶禿 kurige : light, yellowish brown. With mane and tail of the same colour.
窶敕ｶ窶ｰﾃ版棚窶禿 obana kurige : same as kurige, but with white mane/tail.
ﾂ静版棚窶禿 akakurige : reddish brown.
ﾅｽﾂｭ窶禿 kage : brown body (like deer), whose mane, tail and lower part of legs are black.
ﾋ?ｯ窶禿 ashige : brown with white hair here and there, or all over.
Young ashige looks kurige or kage at the beginning, but as it ages, portion of white hair increases. Different name is given (such as ﾂ静藩?ｯ窶禿 aka ashige, ﾋ廣窶婁ﾋ?ｯ窶禿 renzen-ashige) depending on the volume of original colour.
The above terms of hair colour are used only for horses, not for other animals.
Apparently different aspect (colour, in this case) of horses was more important than gender in Japan.
Even the Japanese have come to use darling, honey, sweetheart or boy/girlfriend frequently (just listen to J-pop) because they didn't have enough words for that.
leonmarino said:The Spanish vocabulary contains less words than English, now are Spanish less caring of.. Everything?
ﾂ湘ｮﾂ人 ﾂ・ ﾂ湘ｮ窶｢v ﾂ・ ﾂ湘ｮ窶｢w ﾂ・ 窶卩ｾ窶｢P(窶堋ｿ窶堙･窶堋､窶堋ｫ) ﾂ・ ﾅｽv窶堋｢ﾅｽﾃ ﾂ・ 窶堙溪?堋ｩ窶堋ｯ ﾂ・ ﾋ?坂?堋｢ﾂ鞘? ﾂ・ "窶堋｢窶堙ｫ" ﾂ・ (ﾅｽﾃ｡窶堋｢)"ﾆ団ﾆ弛ﾆ陳? ﾂ・ (窶堙ｭ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｵ窶堙?"窶堋｢窶堋｢ﾂ人" ﾂ・ "窶敕楪鞘?? ﾂ・ "窶敕槐ｽﾂ?
- 窶敕楪鞘? ("she") : I never understood why the most common word in Japanese for "girlfriend" was just "she". That is so indirect and ambigous, so impersonal, so unoriginal...
I think there are many " word " of nature's expression more than other language like komorebi,,,,,so on
maybe more than ten times
What were you doing in Japan?
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that is the most common word of lover , boy/girlfriend, darling....Why is that ? That is offtopic and irrelevant.
komorebi is single word.Do you have other examples of actual single words ?
Inuit actually have only four words for snow. But I'm not going to stoop so low as to call you ignorant for not knowing that.You, Sabro and others intuitively know that as you have given yourself examples of the Inuits having many words for snow, proving my point that they attached a greater importance to it than most other societies. Now it is not because someone has memorised all the words for snow in the Inuit language that they necessarily give a shi't about snow (as you explained so well yourself). But it does tell us about Inuit society's sensitivity about snow all the way through its evolution to this day.
Nop.窶禿侏彝窶堙ｪ窶愿ｺ is three words if it refers to "the action of sunbeams streaming through leaves", but only one word if it refers to a "tree, into which sunbeams are leaking".
窶禿侏彝窶堙ｪ窶愿ｺ is three words if it refers to "the action of sunbeams streaming through leaves", but only one word if it refers to a "tree, into which sunbeams are leaking".
You don't have the choice on this. This is how grammar works and defines "word" in English.
Because "kanojo" is not a unique word for "girlfriend" as it also means "she".that is the most common word of lover , boy/girlfriend, darling....
you konw that.
why did not you write that word down at first?
Yes, but the colours for people's hair in English can also be used for horses (at least some of them).(1) First of all I am not talking about colour of people's hair - I did not mention it at all in my message.
There are also colour words used only for horses in English or French, as well as plenty of names for each breed. Let's have look at your examples again :(2) What I mentioned is that in Japanese language there are words used only for the colour of horses or the horses with that particular colour. I use the word "hair" because I don't think we call what horses have on their skin as "fur".
ﾂ静や?禿 : lit. "blue hair"ﾂ静や?禿 aoge : deep balck including mane and tail.
ﾅ棚窶禿 kurige : light, yellowish brown. With mane and tail of the same colour.
窶敕ｶ窶ｰﾃ版棚窶禿 obana kurige : same as kurige, but with white mane/tail.
ﾂ静版棚窶禿 akakurige : reddish brown.
ﾅｽﾂｭ窶禿 kage : brown body (like deer), whose mane, tail and lower part of legs are black.
ﾋ?ｯ窶禿 ashige : brown with white hair here and there, or all over.
English has more. Japanese copied most of them.(3) You stated that having no different words for female/male for animals means the Japanese care less about them. I wanted to say that we may not have different words for gender, but we do have words for colours when it comes to horse.
Aren't humans animals ?We are not going off topic - except the comment about human hair colour.
This thread is about nature, not specifically about animals.
You still didn't tell me which of the two meanings it was for you. When you say 窶禿侏彝窶堙ｪ窶愿ｺ, are you talking about the tree or about the sunbeams ?Nop.
it is a single word likeﾂ 窶挌窶佚??堋ｿﾂ催崢、窶ｰ窶慊静ｳﾂ、
窶禿侏彝窶堙ｪ窶愿ｺ窶堙娯?｢窶版段
窶禿侏彝窶堙ｪ窶愿ｺ窶堙娯?卍ｬ
窶禿侏彝窶堙ｪ窶愿ｺ窶堙固ｽv窶堋｢ﾂ出
窶禿侏彝窶堙ｪ窶愿ｺ窶堙固ｽﾃ環真
窶禿侏彝窶堙ｪ窶愿ｺ窶堙古｡ﾂｿ窶堋ｵ窶堋ｳ
窶禿侏彝窶堙ｪ窶愿ｺ窶堙娯?ｹi窶卮停?弭
窶禿侏彝窶堙ｪ窶愿ｺ窶堙?.......
No need to discuss. It is not a word in English. "Word" is itself an English word, and this discussion is in English, so... 窶｢ﾂ｡ﾂ坂?｡ﾅ津ｪ does not translate as "single word", but "compound word", which is exactly my point.undrentide said:窶禿侏彝窶堙ｪ窶愿ｺ is one word. This kind of word is called 窶｢ﾂ｡ﾂ坂?｡ﾅ津ｪ.
Applying English grammar to analyze Japanese language does not make much sense to me.
I think of it as similar to "my girl" or "my guy" ﾂ（窶敕楪） in English which to me sounds extremely intimate or endearing. In the same way, It's HER that I like ; SHE is the one is subtle enough to convey the minimum necessary intonation and emphasis with genuine feeling. Not that lover or girl/boyfriend are particularly original or necessarily unambiguous either....- 窶敕楪鞘? ("she") : I never understood why the most common word in Japanese for "girlfriend" was just "she". That is so indirect and ambigous, so impersonal, so unoriginal...
I believe it is Sabro who mentioned that. Anyway, I made a quick Google search, and it appeared that your were indeed ignorant, because they have at least a dozen (or hundreds if we count compound words) : Inuit Words for Snow.Inuit actually have only four words for snow. But I'm not going to stoop so low as to call you ignorant for not knowing that.
It is ambiguous because there isn't another commonly used term that means girlfriend. For instance, when you say in the middel of a concersation "kanojo wo shitteimaska ?", it could mean "do you know her ?" or "do you know my/his girlfriend ?". Unfortunately, the Japanese are not big fans of possessive pronouns, which only makes it worse.I think of it as similar to "my girl" or "my guy" ﾂ（窶敕楪） in English which to me sounds extremely intimate or endearing. In the same way, It's HER that I like ; SHE is the one is subtle enough to convey the minimum necessary intonation and emphasis with genuine feeling. Not that lover or girl/boyfriend are particularly original or necessarily unambiguous either....
窶愿ｺ窶怒 is a single word if it means "Japan". It is two words if it means "origin of the sun" or "sun book".komorebi is single word.
窶愿ｺ窶怒ﾂ is also a single word.
not sun origin..or sun book
There are also colour words used only for horses in English or French, as well as plenty of names for each breed. Let's have look at your examples again :
ﾂ静や?禿 : lit. "blue hair"
ﾅ棚窶禿 : lit. "chestnut hair" => same in English (e.g. chestnut-haired horse)
窶敕ｶ窶ｰﾃ版棚窶禿 : lit. "pampas grass-chestnut hair"
ﾂ静版棚窶禿 : lit. "red chestnut hair"
ﾅｽﾂｭ窶禿 : lit. "deer hair" => this may have been copied on the English in Meiji-jidai, because we also talk of "fawn-colored horses" in English.
ﾋ?ｯ窶禿 : lit. "reed/bulrush hair" => this colour is called "dappled grey" in English.
Please check thelist of horse coat colours to see just how diverse is the vocabulary in English in this regard (I counted more than 40 colours for horses), and how many of the Japanese words you mentioned were copied on them.
If you had read the link properly it mentions that the words given are a satirical piece not fact. There are only four word for snow.I believe it is Sabro who mentioned that. Anyway, I made a quick Google search, and it appeared that your were indeed ignorant, because they have at least a dozen (or hundreds if we count compound words) : Inuit Words for Snow.
What people often forget is that English also has many words for snow, as I tried to hint by mentioning slush and blizzard.
@Tsuyoiko - You saw Qi as well.http://www.mendosa.com/snow.html said:Steve,
Thank you so much for your book, The Language Instinct. It's what I am always looking for—something stimulating and a good read at the same time. I'm glad that every time I went to the library it was checked out so when I found the HarperPerennial edition of it at a bookstore recently I snatched it up.
I especially love to read about hoaxes, or what I usually call urban myths. So when I read your debunking of the 400 or so Eskimo words for snow I was delighted.
Imagine my surprise when I read one of the better on-line ezines, Word, the next day and found the article "The Eskimos' Hundred Words for Snow" by someone named Phil James. I attach the text of the article. What do you think about it? Is this just a continuation of the hoax?
Professor Pinker replied:
Dear Rick,
Thanks for sending the list—it's hilarious....it is a work of a witty satirist. Indeed, it makes a serious point—some of the entries on the serious lists of Eskimo snow words are as dubious as "wa-ter" meaning melted snow "tlan-na-na" for oldie snow on the radio.
Best,
Steve Pinker
Erm, that list is a spoof.I believe it is Sabro who mentioned that. Anyway, I made a quick Google search, and it appeared that your were indeed ignorant, because they have at least a dozen (or hundreds if we count compound words) : Inuit Words for Snow.
What people often forget is that English also has many words for snow, as I tried to hint by mentioning slush and blizzard.
It is as unclear as "Do you know her?" in English without a prior referent.It is ambiguous because there isn't another commonly used term that means girlfriend. For instance, when you say in the middel of a concersation "kanojo wo shitteimaska ?", it could mean "do you know her ?" or "do you know my/his girlfriend ?". Unfortunately, the Japanese are not big fans of possessive pronouns, which only makes it worse.
If you had read the link properly it mentions that the words given are a satirical piece not fact. There are only four word for snow.
@Tsuyoiko - You saw Qi as well.
Wikipedia said:The second error comes from a misconception of what should be considered "words". When it comes to describing snow in Eskimo languages, the words are limitless. And as in other polysynthetic languages, this rule is the same regardless of whether they are describing snow, cheese, trees, cars, or anything at all. This is because their language is structured differently than English. Because Eskimo is polysynthetic, it describes things in words of unlimited length.