Need a word or phrase translated?

GaijinPunch · 17 Feb 2005

jesse said:
It's the university basketball varsity team motto. It's supposed to be two different lines, sorry. Please translate the single word "Believe" as in the verb. And separately, the kanji for "One big fight" as well. Fight in the context of a game, but more intense, more spirited. Example, Go Lakers! Fight Lakers!
The word "One" actually has a significance, because it's the last game, the championship round, so kindly retain it. But since we intend to use the motto over and over again and not just for the championship round, I didn't specify the word "Last" (as in Last one big fight). "One big fight" will do.
Help?

Well, the word "one" doesn't exactly work like that in Japanese. Anyways,

信じて is how you'd say believe (it's the command-form, if that's actually a word... I always sucked at naming the forms in English).

As it's the last game, I think the word "final" would be better than "one", saying 最後の対決 would probably work best. 対決 isn't a fight, but I think fits better in this case. I'm more than open to listen to other suggestions though, as I never watch sports, and certainly didn't while in Japan.

J44xm · 17 Feb 2005

epigene said:
It means "Photo Collection of Ueto Aya," a Japanese "aidoru tarento."

Sankyuu!

Damicci · 17 Feb 2005

Learning some new grammar using "about" and "when" not the itsu form.

Is this correct？
少しあなたについてを教えて下さい。（Please tell me a lil bit about yourself/you.）
私の日本語についてを思いますか？（What do you think about my Japanese?)

あなたはアメリカへ行くときがあなたに"Soul Food"を作ります。
（When you come to America, I will cook Soul Food for you.)
[Or do I drop the あなたに since it is assumed we are talking about "you"?]

I have a really hard time creating long sentences when speaking and or writing.

jesse · 17 Feb 2005

GaijinPunch said:
Well, the word "one" doesn't exactly work like that in Japanese. Anyways,

信じて is how you'd say believe (it's the command-form, if that's actually a word... I always sucked at naming the forms in English).

As it's the last game, I think the word "final" would be better than "one", saying 最後の対決 would probably work best. 対決 isn't a fight, but I think fits better in this case. I'm more than open to listen to other suggestions though, as I never watch sports, and certainly didn't while in Japan.

This is very helpful. Thanks.

Elizabeth · 17 Feb 2005

jt_ said:
What are you finding unnatural about it? The fact that 「出なかった」 is written in hiragana here, or the phrase itself? It seems completely fine to me. You realize that 「死者が出る」 is an idiomatic way of expressing there being "casualties", right?

Here is his explanation for the は、が distinction in this instance. Although there were a thirty or so injuries, I believe, I didn't ask about it directly and to the extent he wasn't aware of those reports or didn't want to get into that level of detail, using が could have come off as mysteriously evasive on the question of anything other than direct fatalities. Of course は doesn't exclude any possibility. Any and all other opinions are welcome. In the case of certain knowledge there were neither deaths nor injuries maybe 死者やけが人も（は）出来なかったのです is the most natural sounding response.

「死者は出なかった」の場合、死者は出なかったが、負傷者は出たかも
しれないという不確定な雰囲気が文脈に表われます。
「死者が出なかった」の場合、話者は負傷者については全く言及されて
いるように思えない、という雰囲気が文脈に表われます。
以上はボクの個人としての意見であって、人によって違うかもしれません。
少なくとも、動詞によって「は」と「が」が分かれるという文法は聞いたことがありません

jesse · 17 Feb 2005

Guys, how do i write the line below in Japanese? Yet clueless again

"Jisetsu kara go-jiai kudasai."

epigene · 17 Feb 2005

It's "jisetsu gara gojiai kudasai." It means "take care of your health, considering the [cold winter] season."

It is a set phrase used in letter writing (sometimes in formal speech, too) to express your wishes for good health.

jesse · 17 Feb 2005

epigene said:
It's "jisetsu gara gojiai kudasai." It means "take care of your health, considering the [cold winter] season."

It is a set phrase used in letter writing (sometimes in formal speech, too) to express your wishes for good health.

thanks for the info. anyways, how do i write this greeting in japanese?

Elizabeth · 17 Feb 2005

Damicci said:
Learning some new grammar using "about" and "when" not the itsu form.

Is this correct？
少しあなたについてを教えて下さい。（Please tell me a lil bit about yourself/you.）

（自分）自身について少し話して（教えて）ください。Or, you can always ask them to introduce themselves

私の日本語についてを思いますか？（What do you think about my Japanese?)

私の日本語をどう思いますか？について思いますか？is asking 'do you think about'
私の日本語はどうですか？
Usually you just ask if they can understand, though.

あなたはアメリカへ行くときがあなたに"Soul Food"を作ります。
（When you come to America, I will cook Soul Food for you.)
[Or do i drop the あなたに since it is assumed we are talking about "you"?]

It really is preferable to use a Japanese person's name when you know it, so I wouldn't use anata at all outside of a possessive or in certain other cases. アメリカへ行ったら、 XXXさんに"Soul Food"を作ります。

Glenn · 18 Feb 2005

Elizabeth said:
It really is preferable to use a Japanese person's name when you know it, so I wouldn't use anata at all outside of a possessive or in certain other cases. アメリカへ行ったら、 XXXさんに"Soul Food"を作ります。

Is 作ってあげます inappropriate? I remember reading something about it being considered arrogant or something, which goes against what I learned about it being necessary to show that a favor is done for someone. Also, shouldn't it be アメリカへ来たら, since the speaker is already in America?

Elizabeth · 18 Feb 2005

Glenn said:
Is 作ってあげます inappropriate? I remember reading something about it being considered arrogant or something, which goes against what I learned about it being necessary to show that a favor is done for someone. Also, shouldn't it be アメリカへ来たら, since the speaker is already in America?

I personally wouldn't use agemasu unless it could be translated to doing a favor for the person (such as they were ill or had otherwise expressed a strong desire for soul food ). Of course when the gift has come to you, its entirely different. Sore, XXXsan ni agemashita.

And アメリカへ来たら is correct of course as well...I must have been lost in thoughts of how I ordinarily express going to Japan.

Glenn · 18 Feb 2005

Elizabeth said:
Of course when the gift has come to you, its entirely different. Sore, XXXsan ni agemashita.

That would be "I gave that to XXX." XXXさんがくれた would be "XXX gave it to me," and XXXさんにもらった would be "I got it from XXX." Or maybe it should be XXXさんからもらった; I'm a bit unsure what the correct particle is there. It seems like に would be right as marking an agent, but から seems to fit the English better. I guess that means I should go with に.

[Edit] I found it: I was right the first time: Re: The verbs of exchange

Damicci · 18 Feb 2005

Hmmm

http://www.thejapanesepage.com/grammar/5.htm#8
so I am browsing a site that give some info on forming advanced sentences. it list
[When specifying "when/at the time" use toki with the root form of a verb]
EX. ___ は日本へ行くとき。。。。 When ___ goes to Japan...... My friend was telling me that some of the stuff on that site is incorrect. "Japanese don't speak like that。" But wasn't sure if toki is the right form to use when specifying "at the time of"
Unlike using itsu..... 山田さんはいつアメリカへ来ますか When will Mr Yamada come to America?
But like making a statement of when. "When I go to Japan, I will eat a lot of takoyaki."
In this instance when is not a question of time frame but a statement of action performed in an unspecified time.

Glenn · 18 Feb 2005

Damicci said:
Hmmm

http://www.thejapanesepage.com/grammar/5.htm#8
so I am browsing a site that give some info on forming advanced sentences. it list
[When specifying "whem/at the time" use toki with the root form of a verb]
EX. ___ は日本へ行くとき。。。。 When ___ goes to Japan...... My friend was telling me that some of the stuff on that site is incorrect. "Japanese don't speak like that。" But wasn't sure if toki is the right form to use when specifying "at the time of"
Unlike using itsu..... いつ山田さんはアメリカへ来ますか When will Mr Yamada come to America?
But like making a statement of when. "When I go to Japan, I will eat alot of takoyaki."
In this instance when is not a question of time frame but a statement of action performed in an unspecified time.

My feeling is that if you use 時 then the action will happen. Using たら is ambiguous. But you're right about the formation.

Elizabeth · 18 Feb 2005

Glenn said:
That would be "I gave that to XXX." XXXさんがくれた would be "XXX gave it to me," and XXXさんにもらった would be "I got it from XXX." Or maybe it should be XXXさんからもらった; I'm a bit unsure what the correct particle is there. It seems like に would be right as marking an agent, but から seems to fit the English better. I guess that means I should go with に.

[Edit] I found it: I was right the first time: Re: The verbs of exchange

Yes, sorry I was at work but I meant あげられた, although I'm still not sure how often this is used for "was given by."

Damicci · 18 Feb 2005

So if I am saying "When blah blah blah" I use とき with root verb and use のとき with nouns? あなた（みかさん）はアメリカへ来るときがSoulFoodを作ります。

And Elizabeth's statement leads me back to another issue about politeness. I use あなた all the time with friends and none have corrected me on this. It is ok to use it casually right? None seem to be offended by this nor care.

Elizabeth · 18 Feb 2005

Glenn said:
My feeling is that if you use 時 then the action will happen. Using たら is ambiguous. But you're right about the formation.

When speaking in the past tense, I think 時 is also used for deliberate or intentional actions, for instance "アメリカへ来たとき、友達に会いました" means that she didn't come here and meet you by chance whereas in some contexts アメリカへ来たら might have more that implication.

Glenn · 18 Feb 2005

Damicci said:
So if I am saying "When blah blah blah" I use とき with root verb and use のとき with nouns? あなた（みかさん）はアメリカへ来るときがSoulFoodを作ります。

Should be 時に（は）; otherwise it's fine. If you've talked about her coming to the US before and it's been decided that she is coming, then 時には is best.

Damicci said:
And Elizabeth's statement leads me back to another issue about politeness. I use あなた all the time with friends and none have corrected me on this. It is ok to use it casually right? None seem to be offended by this nor care.

I think with friends it may not matter as much, but I could be wrong. I guess the only way to know for sure is to ask them.

Damicci · 18 Feb 2005

Thanks again
またありがとうございました

勉強勉強

Elizabeth · 18 Feb 2005

Damicci said:
Thanks again
またありがとうございました

勉強勉強

One last note on this, I think that the に in 時に is to show something will happen during the duration of their stay, but won't span the entire time. Similar to aida ni, although it seems to be left out quite a bit as well in obvious cases, so you can get by with just toki. And if you're planning to make soul food for her every day, you may not need the 'ni' at all.

Hiroyuki Nagashima · 18 Feb 2005

jesse said:
thanks for the info. anyways, how do i write this greeting in Japanese?

"Jisetsu kara go-jiai kudasai."

"時節柄、御自愛ください。"

Hiroyuki Nagashima · 18 Feb 2005

Damicci said:
Learning some new grammar using "about" and "when" not the itsu form.

Is this correct？
少しあなたについてを教えて下さい。（Please tell me a lil bit about yourself/you.）
私の日本語についてを思いますか？（What do you think about my japanese?)

あなたはアメリカへ行くときがあなたに"Soul Food"を作ります。
（When you come to America, I will cook Soul Food for you.)
[Or do i drop the あなたに since it is assumed we are talking about "you"?]

I have a really hard time creating long sentences when speaking and or writing.

少しあなたについて、教えてください。
私の日本語について、どう思いますか?
あなたがアメリカに来たとき、あなたに"Soul Food"をつくてあげます。

「来る」=話し手のいる方へ近づく。
の意味 - goo国語辞書

「あげる」=（補助動詞）
動詞の連用形に接続助詞「て」の付いた形に付き、主語で表されるサービスの送り手が、他人のためにすることを、送り手の側から表す。（普通は仮名書き）《上》
「友達に本を貸して―・げた」「お宅まで送って―・げましょう」
〔「…てやる」と異なり、受け手に対する軽い敬意がこめられている。目上に対しては「さしあげる」を用いるのが一般的〕
上げる／揚げる／挙げる（あげる）の意味 - goo国語辞書

「土佐日記(tosa )」風
土佐日記／土左日記（とさにっき）の意味 - goo国語辞書
Pattern 1
不躾(ぶしつけ)とは思いますが、貴方様自身についてお話頂けないでしょうか?
私の日本語におかしな点がございましたら、忌憚なくご指摘ください。
貴方様がアメリカにいらっしゃいました折には、"Soul Food"を召し上がっていただきたいと
思いますので、是非私に作らさせてください。
Pattern 2
ねぇ、貴方のこともっとおしえて(-_^)ネ
わたしの日本語へん?(^^
アメリカに来たら、"Soul Food" ご馳走しちゃう!(^^)へへっ

Pattern 3 I use "ko-girl" word conversion software
少々あんたさぁについてって言うか～，教えてほしいしぃ。
アタシの日本語についてって言うか～，どう思うしぃか?
あんたさぁがアメリカに来たときって言うか～，あんたさぁに"Soul Food"をつくてあげるからぁ。

Pattern 4 I use Pikachu word conversion software
少ピーピッカカァピッチュピッカ、教チュピッカチュウピチュ。
私ピカ日本語ピッチュピッカ、ピカァチュウ♪思チュッカチュウッカ?
ーピッカカァピッカアメリカピッ来カァピッ、ーピッカカァピッ"Soul Food"ピッカチュウピッカーッカチュウ。

ごめんなさい。冗談です。 :sorry:

jesse · 18 Feb 2005

Hiroyuki Nagashima said:
"Jisetsu kara go-jiai kudasai."

"時節柄、御自愛ください。"

goo辞書 - 国語・英語・四字熟語・中国語のオンライン辞書

Muchas gracias!

Ed-E · 20 Feb 2005

Hello!

I'm translating the blog of a Japanese musician called Yasunori Mitsuda, and I've stumbled across a sentence that's giving me a bit of bother.

To give some context: he's talking about having trouble putting music to a video sequence where and a composer friend can't seem to be able to put a "scale" on (尺 is the kanji that's used - "scale" sounds odd and a little wolly though, would "pace" or "tempo" be incorrect?). The people at the production company don't seem to understand how long it takes to make this music, either, so he's a little fed up. He finishes the post with the following line:

数時間では音は付きませんで・・・ほんまに！

The で at the end of the polite-negative is confusing me, as is ほんまに (I can't find a translation for that anywhere).

Your help is appreciated! Thanks guys and gals!
Ed

Glenn · 20 Feb 2005

Ed-E said:
To give some context: he's talking about having trouble putting music to a video sequence where and a composer friend can't seem to be able to put a "scale" on (尺 is the kanji that's used - "scale" sounds odd and a little wolly though, would "pace" or "tempo" be incorrect?).

Is that 尺 as in 尺度?

Ed-E said:
数時間では音は付きませんで・・・ほんまに！

The で at the end of the polite-negative is confusing me, as is ほんまに (I can't find a translation for that anywhere).

Your help is appreciated! Thanks guys and gals!
Ed

That's 関西弁. で=よ, and ほんまに=本当に.

Need a word or phrase translated?

遠いから行きません

経験値が足りない

先輩

Jesse

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Jesse

相変わらず不束者です

Jesse

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一切皆苦

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一切皆苦

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一切皆苦

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先輩

一切皆苦

先輩

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TAN

TAN

Jesse

先輩

一切皆苦

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