Need a word or phrase translated?

Glenn · 22 Jan 2004

Originally posted by Kuro_Tsubasa69
Thanks! : (I'll just make sure not to use it in public...But, it should be fine when written in manga, correct? :emoji_wink

Sure. In fact, in manga and anime this would be how you would most likely hear/see it phrased, since in manga and anime most situations are informal.

Another question pertaining to that....Is there a really, really polite way to say the english 'you'? Even more-so than 'anata'? (Thanks!)

Yes, use the person's name. As far as a more polite second person pronoun, I think that there is none, but I could be mistaken. Aside from あなた, お前(おまえ), 君(きみ), and 貴様(きさま), the only other one that I can think of right now is おぬし, but that is an old word that is not in common use anymore.

Golgo_13 · 22 Jan 2004

in Osaka, we might say "ondore" or "ware" if you're a gangster.

A merchant would call a customer "okyakusan" instead of "anata"

A halfway polite way, if you don't want to say anata to a total stranger, is to say "otaku".

Glenn · 22 Jan 2004

Originally posted by Golgo_13
in Osaka, we might say "ondore" or "ware" if you're a gangster.

They say that for "you?" I thought that "ware" was a first person pronoun. Also, because I have heard "onore" used as an insult, I was wondering whether "ondore" was a typo or if it is actually a different word.

Elizabeth · 22 Jan 2004

Originally posted by Golgo_13
in Osaka, we might say "ondore" or "ware" if you're a gangster.

A merchant would call a customer "okyakusan" instead of "anata"

A halfway polite way, if you don't want to say anata to a total stranger, is to say "otaku".

Isn't "Wai" kansaiben for both I and you as well?

Golgo_13 · 22 Jan 2004

No, it's only "I".

A silly Japanese pun:

Why was the Japanese national anthem titled "Kimigayo"?

The original title was "Omae gayo" but the girlfriend complained, so the musician changed "omae" to "kimi".

J / K !

SacredBlue · 22 Jan 2004

The original title was "Omae gayo" but the girlfriend complained, so the musician changed "omae" to "kimi".

Elizabeth · 22 Jan 2004

Originally posted by Golgo_13
No, it's only "I".

OK, what about temae then, I gather it was a polite "I" a century ago and somehow devolved into the not so nice "you" and vulgar temee. Also wate (ate) for I?

Golgo_13 · 22 Jan 2004

Originally posted by Elizabeth
OK, what about temae then, I gather it was a polite "I" a century ago and somehow devolved into the not so nice "you" and vulgar temee. Also wate (ate) for I?

I don't think "temae" was ever used as "I". But it, as well as "temee", does mean "you".

"wate" and "washi" (only said by men) both mean "I" in colloquial speech.

"kisama!" as "you" is sometimes used in J-Dorama when someone is angry. Almost like "you b@st@rd!"

However, in the old days kisama was used among friends, e.g., a military song during WWII went:

"Kisama to ore towa douki no sakura . . ." "Douki" = same graduating class. "Sakura" is a metaphor for springtime graduates of a military academy who may go on to perish.

in the Kansai region, "working class" women sometimes say "uchi" to refer to themselves. "Uchi no dan'na wa ne . . ." (My husband is . . .)

Kuro_Tsubasa69 · 23 Jan 2004

Originally posted by Glenn
Yes, use the person's name. As far as a more polite second person pronoun, I think that there is none, but I could be mistaken. Aside from あなた, お前(おまえ), 君(きみ), and 貴様(きさま), the only other one that I can think of right now is おぬし, but that is an old word that is not in common use anymore.

: Arigatou!

Now, can you do me a favor and rank those in order of increasing politeness? (I know 'kimi' you shouldn't use unless you really know a person, on a friend basis with them, and 'anata' should be towards to all people in public *strangers and such*. At least i think that is correct. :emoji_astonished: But, what about 'onushi'? *I know it's olde, but, how polite is it? :emoji_flushed: I just am really curious about the nuances of languages...Sorry for all these questions. :emoji_bow: And 'Kisamo'? How would that be used? And 'omoe' also? (I had only heard of anata and kimi before.)

~~~

@all the other posts :emoji_bow:

marek · 23 Jan 2004

greeting card

Hi!

My girl friend sent me a japanese ICQ greeting card, but I can't figure out all signs (probably the kanji) because of bad resolution. Maybe someone is familiar enough with japanese writing to read it. What does it mean (and how do you write it legibly)?

Here is it:

arigato

Buntaro · 23 Jan 2004

The kanji are fuzzy, and I cannot read them, but a native speaker can probably read them. Try posting it in the Japanese language area of this forum. I am sure someone there can help you.

Golgo_13 · 23 Jan 2004

"Romantic Massage Hikitoriken (claim ticket)

Kono hikitoriken de saikou ni romantic de, tottemo relax dekiru, aijou tappuri no massage ga wukeraremasu

Daimanzoku hoshoutsuki!"

I leave it to you to translate as an assignment.

marek · 23 Jan 2004

Thank you!

Thank you, Golgo_13-san! :emoji_laughing:

Golgo_13 · 23 Jan 2004

Originally posted by Golgo_13
"Romantic Massage Hikitoriken (claim ticket)

Kono hikitoriken de saikou ni romantic de, tottemo relax dekiru, aijou tappuri no massage ga wukeraremasu

Daimanzoku hoshoutsuki!"

I leave it to you to translate as an assignment.

Bitte schon!

I'll go ahead and translate it fur sich. You still have to translate my English to German.

"With this claim ticket you can receive the most romantic, relaxing, loving massage.

Satisfaction guaranteed!"

Verstehst?

Elizabeth · 23 Jan 2004

Originally posted by Golgo_13
アレルゲン would be allergen

arerugii is "allergy" but they don't have an equivalent for "allergic" so that's what they say: "______ no arerugii desu"

です es correctamente!

Another one of those things there is genuine disagreement over. I asked my tutor, for instance, and here is her response.

A. 私はほこりのアレルギーです。 B。私はほこりアレルギーです。ではどちらが自然かと言うと、Bです。猫アレルギー、花粉アレルギー等などいろいろありますがBはよく使われる言い方です。Aも間違いではありませんがあまり使われないと思うのでBを覚えておけば良いでしょう。

Buntaro · 25 Jan 2004

My Japanese teacher says that we can say either sentence:

Watashi wa hokori no arerugi desu.

Watashi wa hokori no arerugi o motte imasu.

PaulTB · 25 Jan 2004

Originally posted by Buntaro
My Japanese teacher says that we can say either sentence:

Watashi wa hokori no arerugi desu.

Watashi wa hokori no arerugi o motte imasu.

I'm not surprised. After all it's a language where you can say

私はコーヒーです。
I am a cup of coffee じゃなくて、I'll have coffee. ;-)

In fact here's an interesting page ...
変な英語

私はコーヒー。
飛行機に乗っていると機内サービスで飲み物が出ます。
"Coffee or tea?"（コーヒー、紅茶どちらがよろしいですか？）
という感じで聞かれて、思わず
"I am coffee."（私はコーヒーです。）
と答えてしまう人がいるのだそう。日本語だとおかしくないんだけど、
それをそのまま英語に直訳したときに、「私はコーヒーが欲しい」と
いう意味になるかというと、違っていて、この場合「私は人間ではなく
コーヒーだ」という意味になるのだそう。"

[Edit] Oh yes, spot the missing だ/です in the title? It's common to 'lose' する and such from article titles, newspaper headlines etc.

Elizabeth · 25 Jan 2004

Originally posted by Buntaro
My Japanese teacher says that we can say either sentence:

Watashi wa hokori no arerugi desu.

Watashi wa hokori no arerugi o motte imasu.

Did you ask just about "hokori arerugi" without the "no"? Maybe it's just a regional preference...my tutor is from Osaka, anyway, as everyone can see since I posted her response, she says it is hardly used at all.

Buntaro · 26 Jan 2004

I will check about the "no". I'll get back to you!

Elizabeth · 26 Jan 2004

Originally posted by Buntaro
I will check about the "no". I'll get back to you!

You might ask whether "motte iru" doesn't sound a bit ちょっとかたい感じがします, or harsh, as well.

kisu · 27 Jan 2004

How do you say.. "young girl" "innocent girl" what would be a good word to say something like that?

and... like "misfit" or like someone who is "odd" what do you call them? (in Japanese)

ありがとう~

~kisu

Golgo_13 · 27 Jan 2004

Originally posted by kisu
how do you say.. "young girl" "innocent girl" what would be a good word to say something like that?

and... like "misfit" or like someone who is "odd" what do you call them? (in japanese)

ありがとう~

~kisu

a young girl would be "on'nanoko" A boy would be otokonoko

innocent girl? How innocent is she? j/k!

Poetically, I would say "otome"

A misfit? Or Miss Fit? j/k!

"hen'na yatsu" or "kawarimon" come to mind.

:

she she ni!

Glenn · 28 Jan 2004

How about 娘 (musume) for young girl? Isn't that commonly used as well, or am I being lied to by anime? :

Elizabeth · 28 Jan 2004

少女 for girl, お嬢さん (ojousan) more like Miss, a more polite musumesan?, for someone else's daughter or a young unmarried woman....

Here also is a past thread on freaks, of nature and otherwise

Quick translation question - sorry but I would very much appreciate help.

Hi, I relise that this may be hard to translate but my friend wants his nickname translated its HUMID FREAK Thank you very much for your help, i'm learning japanese at the moment but i'm unable to translate, because i'm learning how to speak in japanese first then write after. Ryo Hazuki

jref.com

Johnathan · 29 Jan 2004

(I'm really sorry if this is too much...)

These are lyrics from a song. The song has mixed English/Japanese. My girlfriend likes it when I sing this song to her, but I barely know what I'm saying! (The Japanese parts anyway.)

無くした物を拾い集めて
遥かに見た空はここにあって
感じたこと呼び起こすように
終わりなきこのメロディーに重ねてく

二度とない時間は約束で
確かに逢った夢はどこにあった？
限りなきこのメロディーに重ねればいい

このまま世界を壊して
今はただ強く願うよ

For reference, here's the whole song, in case it helps.

Don't wanna remember
Don't wanna remember my name
But I wanna remember every passing day
Squares and circles in my mind today
Everyone can play

Nakushita mono wo hiroi atsumete
Haruka ni mita sora wa koko ni atte
Kanjita koto yobi okosuyou ni
Owarinaki kono melody ni kasaneteku

Hold on, wait around
All you've got can take you there
This is my life, my ride
Let me glow, let me glow bright
Dry those tears now,
Save them for your yesterdays
So let's stay and play
It's gonna be the greatest day
That I've ever known

Nido to nai jikan wa yakusoku de
Tashika ni atta yume wa doko ni atta?
Kagirinaki kono melody ni kasanerebaii

Kono mama sekai wo kowa shite
Ima wa tada tsuyoku negau yo
Dry those tears now,
Save them for your yesterdays
So let's stay and play
It's gonna be the greatest day
that I've ever known

Hold on, wait around
All you've got can take you there
This is my life, my ride
Let me glow, let me glow so brightly, dry me
Tears were meant for rainy days
So lets stay and play
It's gonna be the greatest day
That I've ever known
Today...

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