Need a word or phrase translated?

undrentide · 15 May 2006

Elizabeth said:
ありがとう、undrentide さん！
「たいくさい」の意味も、すぐに思いつかなかったんですけど。。。それは正しい？
ドイツかどこかから入っている外来語のかな？
それとも、『体躯祭」ってことでしょうか？

どういたしまして、Elizabethさん。

あ、気がつきませんでした！
「たいくさい」は原文のタイプミスだと思います。
「たいいくさい」＝体育祭じゃないでしょうか。
学校によって呼び方が変るようですが、運動会と同じようなものでしょうね。
英語だとathletic meeting? sports day?

Ed-E · 15 May 2006

皆さん、今日は！ちょっと質問があります。

「民間人にしちゃ、よく理解してるんじゃねえか。」

多分、「にしちゃ」は「にしては」でしょうね？でもそれ以外この文の意味があまり分かりません。

I guess it also doesn't help that I don't really understand 「じゃない・じゃないか・じゃないか？」 at the end of sentences - I know it can sometimes indicate a rhetorical question, but it's an aspect I've never really understood.

Thanks in advance / お願いします！

undrentide · 15 May 2006

Ed-E said:
皆さん、今日は！ちょっと質問があります。
「民間人にしちゃ、よく理解してるんじゃねえか。」
多分、「にしちゃ」は「にしては」でしょうね？でもそれ以外この文の意味があまり分かりません。
I guess it also doesn't help that I don't really understand 「じゃない・じゃないか・じゃないか？」 at the end of sentences - I know it can sometimes indicate a rhetorical question, but it's an aspect I've never really understood.
Thanks in advance / お願いします！

「にしちゃ」＝「にしては」で正しいです。

じゃない is colloquial form of ではない.
As you mentioned, か (also の） could indicate a rhetorical question, often to express one's feeling, surprised, amazed, impressed, etc.

It is often used to show one is impressed - truly or with heavy sarcasm;
～ではないか
～じゃないか
～じゃないの
～じゃない？

Glenn · 15 May 2006

Yinyang -- 陰陽

Ed-E · 15 May 2006

undrentide said:
「にしちゃ」＝「にしては」で正しいです。
じゃない is colloquial form of ではない.
As you mentioned, か (also の） could indicate a rhetorical question, often to express one's feeling, surprised, amazed, impressed, etc.
It is often used to show one is impressed - truly or with heavy sarcasm;
～ではないか
～じゃないか
～じゃないの
～じゃない？

undrentideさん、ありがとうございました！
最後の４つの例は全部同じ意味ですか？

「にしては」の意味まだわかりません。To tell you the truth, I've only seen 「～ては」 in the form 「~てはいけない・ならない・ダメ」, and none of the grammar reference books are being particularly helpful. If anyone could help, I'd be forever grateful. お願いします！

undrentide · 15 May 2006

Ed-E said:
undrentideさん、ありがとうございました！
最後の４つの例は全部同じ意味ですか？
「にしては」の意味まだわかりません。To tell you the truth, I've only seen 「～ては」 in the form 「~てはいけない・ならない・ダメ」, and none of the grammar reference books are being particularly helpful. If anyone could help, I'd be forever grateful. お願いします！

はい、４つの例はどれも同じです。
～ではないか：どちらかというとformalな言い方です
～じゃないか：男性がよく使います。It has some accusing tone.
～じゃないの：「の」は女性が使います。
～じゃない？：これもくだけた言い方ですね。女性の方がよく使いますが、男性もつかいます。

「にしては」は英語のforに近い意味だと思います。

初めてにしては上手くできましたね。
You've done it well for the a beginenr (though you did it for the first time).

「～にしては」というのは「～」に期待されていることと、実際が違っているときに
感心したりあきれたりしてみせるのに使われます。
Aにしては: when someone/something is A, there's a certain level/standard expected for A. Then actual performance (or result, etc.) is quite different from what one may expect from A, one says Aにしては to express certain feeling - amazement, surprise, disappointment, etc.

「～にしては」と「～しては」では意味が違います。
～にしてはの「～」は状態やものなどです。
「～しては（いけません）」の「～」には動詞が入ります。

Ed-E · 15 May 2006

undrentide said:
はい、４つの例はどれも同じです。
～ではないか：どちらかというとformalな言い方です
～じゃないか：男性がよく使います。It has some accusing tone.
～じゃないの：「の」は女性が使います。
～じゃない？：これもくだけた言い方ですね。女性の方がよく使いますが、男性もつかいます。
「にしては」は英語のforに近い意味だと思います。
初めてにしては上手くできましたね。
You've done it well for the a beginenr (though you did it for the first time).
「～にしては」というのは「～」に期待されていることと、実際が違っているときに
感心したりあきれたりしてみせるのに使われます。
Aにしては: when someone/something is A, there's a certain level/standard expected for A. Then actual performance (or result, etc.) is quite different from what one may expect from A, one says Aにしては to express certain feeling - amazement, surprise, disappointment, etc.
「～にしては」と「～しては」では意味が違います。
～にしてはの「～」は状態やものなどです。
「～しては（いけません）」の「～」には動詞が入ります。

手伝ってくれて本当にありがとうございます！You're a star!

エド

KeithZJ · 16 May 2006

how do u pronounce these in english alphabets?:

さとさとしさとるさといとものりとしあきらじとみひともとよも

Glenn · 16 May 2006

How about I give you the romaji?

sato, satoshi, satoru, satoi, tomo, nori, toshi, akira, ji, tomi, hito, moto, yomo

yukio_michael · 16 May 2006

Can someone help me with this sentence, I'm having problems w/ one of the extra particles, ni, in there which I don't know why it is--- it's off someone's blog, and should be considered casual at best...

「昨日、大好きなohanaのLIVEを見に zepp東京に行って来ました。」

I don't know of any other use of ni other than as a marker for a place or direction of action... so it following miru confuses me.

The sentence could mean, yesterday, daisuki na! (I) went 'to ohana live concert' performing 'at zepp tokyo'.

Glenn · 16 May 2006

It's the "purpose of movement" construction: "yesterday, I went to see an ohana show live, who I really like, at zepp Tokyo." It doesn't make much sense without knowing exactly what some of the vocab is (it also makes it hard to put together coherently), but the construction is the same as mi ni iku ("go to see").

Elizabeth · 16 May 2006

yukio_michael said:
Can someone help me with this sentence, I'm having problems w/ one of the extra particles, ni, in there which I don't know why it is--- it's off someone's blog, and should be considered casual at best...
「昨日、大好きなohanaのLIVEを見に zepp東京に行って来ました。」
I don't know of any other use of ni other than as a marker for a place or direction of action... so it following miru confuses me.
The sentence could mean, yesterday, daisuki na! (I) went 'to ohana live concert' performing 'at zepp tokyo'.

In addition to Glenn's suggestion, another translation would be "Yesterday I went to Zepp Tokyo to see the group I really like, Ohana, live." 見るために (in order to see) みたいな感じ。

Glenn · 16 May 2006

Yeah, Elizabeth's version is better than mine. It definitely flows a lot better.

Just a bit of thinking "out loud" here: I wonder if "ohana" is supposed to be the Hawaiian word for "family."

yukio_michael · 16 May 2006

Isn't it (also?) the Japanese word for smile? At least I thought it was becasue a new izakaya opened up w/ the name, and my gf explained it as meaning 'smile'.*

じゃ~みなさん、有難う。

*now I think it means something else, as the construction was ohana no ~ ? ...so. Oh, I think I found the Kanji from the restaraunt... 「笑」 Glenn, I believe you're right as well, ohana does mean family in Hawaiian...

Fuumei · 18 May 2006

youni

george-san ni ashita 8-ji ni kaishi ni kuru youni tsutaete kudasai

I know that "youni" in this example is only used when asking for things non-directly (At least by what I have been reading. However, what does it mean? I am not told in my book, and there are other usages of "youni" so it's been difficult to find this definition. Anyone? Thanks in advance.

Elizabeth · 18 May 2006

Fuumei said:
george-san ni ashita 8-ji ni kaishi ni kuru youni tsutaete kudasai
I know that "youni" in this example is only used when asking for things non-directly (At least by what I have been reading. However, what does it mean? I am not told in my book, and there are other usages of "youni" so it's been difficult to find this definition. Anyone? Thanks in advance.

In a sentence like this, communicating a request or relaying a message,
you ni is used as an indirect command to paraphrase the direct quotation.

Please tell George to come to the office tomorrow at 8. (Tell him "like this" or
"something resembling this."

Using the particle "to" is perfectly grammatical as well of course, it simply indicates that the words (request, advice, suggestion) need to be reported precisely and without change.

J44xm · 18 May 2006

「好きなひといたらそんなこといわないやろ？」 My guess: "If there was someone that you like, you probably wouldn't say that sort of thing." どうも！

KrazyKat · 18 May 2006

I agree.
Just in case you didn't know, although it looks like you do,
やろ = kanasai form of だろう.

Nicky · 18 May 2006

I need help. I'm translating one of the children's story books my aunt bought me, Right now I'm doing Kintarou. I've come across a phrase that I just don't understand at all:

「はっけよいよいのこった」

What does it mean?

epigene · 18 May 2006

Hi Nicky!

That's a phrase used solely in Japanese sumo (wrestling).

It's a call made by the "referee" made when the wrestlers must place both of their hands (formed in fists) touching the ground before starting to move forward against the opponent. I think you'll be able to figure it out better with an illustration or picture of sumo wrestlers in that position.

HTH!!

PS. Just came back from Boston! Found your question the first thing when checking out the forum at my own PC! Love your town!!

Nicky · 18 May 2006

Thanks! And I'm glad you enjoyed my town.

J44xm · 18 May 2006

KrazyKat said:
I agree.
Just in case you didn't know, although it looks like you do,
やろ = kanasai form of だろう.

どうもありがとう。 I didn't realize that やろ was actually derived from だろう, though. 「かなさいフォーム」は何ですか。

KrazyKat · 19 May 2006

あぁ、ごめん。「かなさい」ではないんです。関西（かんさい）です。大阪などでは「だ」じゃなくて「や」が言われているんです。

Elizabeth · 19 May 2006

PS. Just came back from Boston! Found your question the first thing when checking out the forum at my own PC! Love your town!!

最近、行ったことがないですが、ボストンは、どうもイメージが非常に高級だとおもいます。
子供のとき、大好きでしたよ。

でも、急に雨が降り始めましたね。

undrentide · 19 May 2006

epigene said:
PS. Just came back from Boston! Found your question the first thing when checking out the forum at my own PC! Love your town!!

epigeneさん、おかえりなさい！
ボストン、いいなあ。一度しか行ったことがありませんが、とてもきれいな街ですね。
来週からは今度は私がお出かけする番です。(笑)

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