I read it as the event that is being prolonged, not the speaker's agony orJ C said:In こないだの事件を引きずって悩んでいます。 Would this translate as:
"I am bothered that the recent incident will be prolonged." - i.e. the incident is continuing.
OR
"I have still been bothered by the recent incident." - i.e the speakers' "bother" is continuing.
Thanks for any help,
JC
Thanks Epigene. That broadens my scope of these sorts of verbs considerably. The only one I was really familiar with before was 思い詰める、and "hikizuru" I have thought of using to "drag someone along" but decided unless I had him attached to my tether that wouldn't apply literal enough.epigene said:こないだの事件を引きずって悩んでいます。
Unless there is actual and physical dragging going on, "hikizuru" is used usually to mean the mental thing, of not being able to get rid of the event from one's mind. This is quite common in usage.
HTH!
今日は日本語で書きます。今まで、これをしませんでした。日本語で書くことが好きです。日本語を習うつもりだったら日本語で書くことがとても必要です。とにかく、楽しいです。
三月までは、YAMASAのリプライを待っています。残念な事です。でも、申し込みは絶対受け付けられますと思います。とりあえず、待つのは難しいです。
最近、テレビドラマの「優しい時間」を見ます。これの前、「1リットルの涙」を見ました。とてもいいドラマでした。「電車男」も見ました。すべてのドラマは面白かったです。好きでした。アメリカのホームドラマより日本のテレビドラマの方がもっといいですよ。
あのさ……誰かがこれを読んでいますか。
(僕が間違えたら、伝えてください。)
Maybe, 今まで、これをしてみていませんでした。J44xm said:今まで、これをしませんでし た。
Maybe, 日本語を学びたければ、日本語で書くことがとても必要になります。 I think です is not so bad, either, as you originally had!日本語を習うつもり だったら日本語で書くことがとても必要です。
Before I reply, what exactly do you want to say in this sentence?三月までは、YAMASAのリプライを待っています。
First off, the verb before と思います should be in plain form. Second, what is your intended meaning of 受け付けられます?でも、申し込みは絶対受け付けられます と思います。
見ていますwould be better here.最近、テレビドラマの「優しい時間」を見ます。
Maybe adding とても would be better.好きでした。
You don't need to say もっと here.アメリカのホームドラマより日本のテレビドラマの方がもっといいですよ。
Thank you very much. I should be able to understand whatever comments you post, I believe. As for my level, I've been learning on my own for several months now, though I've only recently began studying seriously.Mikawa Ossan said:I'm not entirely certain as to your Japanese level, so I don't know how far to comment, but I'll give you some comments, since you asked! Hope this helps!
Could I ask for a literal translation of this? I'm sure not what the change signifies.Mikawa Ossan said:Maybe, 今まで、これをしてみていませんでした。
I understand your changes here. I'm glad to know that です would work too, but I assume that なります is more natural?Mikawa Ossan said:Maybe, 日本語を学びたければ、日本語で書くことがとても必要になります。 I think です is not so bad, either, as you originally had!
"Until March, I am waiting for Yamasa's reply." My original sentence was something like "I have to wait until March to find if I'll be accepted to Yamasa." Now that I think about it, though, I'm not waiting on Yamasa but on Japan's Immigration Bureau. (I must have been more tired than I thought last night.) So what I'm trying to say, now, is this: "I have to wait until March to find out from the Japanese Immigration Bureau if I will be issued a student visa." That sentence is above my level, but dissecting it will be beneficial.Mikawa Ossan said:Before I reply, what exactly do you want to say in this sentence?
(1) Argh! Just a stupid oversight on my part. ごめんなさい。 (2) I was trying to say that I believe that my application will be accepted. WWWJDIC says: "受け付ける(P); 受けつける 【うけつける】 (v1) to be accepted; to receive (an application)." However, it seems that I tried to conjugate a naturally passive verb into the passive form, right? That's far too careless. I must be more careful.Mikawa Ossan said:First off, the verb before と思います should be in plain form. Second, what is your intended meaning of 受け付けられます?
わかりました。Mikawa Ossan said:見ていますwould be better here.
(1) I'm not even sure what I was thinking here. Another careless error. (2a) Ah, yes. Again, I should have caught that. (2b) 見ていました ... I see. Makes sense!Mikawa Ossan said:First, it should be この rather than これの. Second, since you are adding another element to things that you have been watching, も would be better than を here. Also, unless you only saw it one time (as in one episode perhaps), 見ていました would be better than 見ました.
「とても好きでした。」 I didn't realize that was legal grammar, though it does make sense, now that I look closely.Mikawa Ossan said:Maybe adding とても would be better.
Ahh, I see.Mikawa Ossan said:You don't need to say もっと here.
If I want to learn Japanese, it is very necessary to write it (?)Maybe, 今まで、これをしてみていませんでした。
Maybe, 日本語を学びたければ、日本語で書くことがとても必要になります。 I think です is not so bad, either, as you originally had!
許し and 乗り越え are verbs, so they are used as "compound verbs" which happens quite often in Japanese (there are a few examples of such usage posted recently by coincidence).Bucko said:The most difficult to one was the last line "親を許し乗り越えなきゃ", 許し is a noun right? If so, how does the noun affect "親"? Or is "許し乗り越え" one big verb (that would make more sense actually).
入国管理局による(書類、就国ビサ)調査結果を通知されるのを三月まで待たなければなりません。Now that I think about it, though, I'm not waiting on Yamasa but on Japan's Immigration Bureau. (I must have been more tired than I thought last night.) So what I'm trying to say, now, is this: "I have to wait until March to find out from the Japanese Immigration Bureau if I will be issued a student visa."
I'm sure you knew this already, but I think this should be arrogant rich man not referring to the son (although he may think that too....).Young manそうさ
ごう慢な金持ちのバカ息子なんだ
It's true. Because I'm the stupid arrogant son of a rich man.
J44xm said:Could I ask for a literal translation of this? I'm sure not what the change signifies.
Elizabeth is very close.Elizabeth said:The first sentence is "I haven't tried doing it until now."
means, "I didn't do this until now." By first adding the みる, so that the sentence becomes今まで,これをしませんでした。
J44xm said:I understand your changes here. I'm glad to know that です would work too, but I assume that なります is more natural?
There is a lot of confusion, even among Japanese themselves, about the proper usage of なる, primarily in terms of keigo. That is not the issue here, but the point is that なる is more tricky than it seems at first glance. It sounded quite natural to me in this context, which is why I used it.Elizabeth said:If I want to learn Japanese, it is very necessary to write it (?)
Does this sound more natural in Japanese than English ?
Very important or just necessary, maybe?
Anyway, if you can find another way around "totemo" normally you would leave out the ことが and just go with 書く必要があります。
J44xm said:"Until March, I am waiting for Yamasa's reply." My original sentence was something like "I have to wait until March to find if I'll be accepted to Yamasa." Now that I think about it, though, I'm not waiting on Yamasa but on Japan's Immigration Bureau. (I must have been more tired than I thought last night.) So what I'm trying to say, now, is this: "I have to wait until March to find out from the Japanese Immigration Bureau if I will be issued a student visa." That sentence is above my level, but dissecting it will be beneficial.
Also, I didn't know which word to use for "reply" (as in a reply of acceptance from a university or, now, government), as there are a surprising number of words in WWWJDIC that mean "reply."
For the original sentence, perhaps, 今は,3月にヤマサから返事が来るまで待っています。Elizabeth said:入国管理局による(書類、就国ビサ)調査結果を通知され るのを三月まで待たなければなりません。
Maybe ? Most likely you will hear and be sent your eligibility certificate directly from the institute, not Immigration, no? I'm sure it is at least decipherable.
It has been a long time since I learned the verb 受け付ける, but I don't think it's passive. It is transitive, however, so in that sense your usage was not technically wrong. But, I think that the meaning of accept that you are looking for is in the sense of being allowed admission to school, and not just that they will receive and consider your application. As I understand the meaning of 受け付ける, in this context it would just mean that they will consider your application.J44xm said:(2) I was trying to say that I believe that my application will be accepted. WWWJDIC says: "受け付ける(P); 受けつける 【うけつける】 (v1) to be accepted; to receive (an application)." However, it seems that I tried to conjugate a naturally passive verb into the passive form, right? That's far too careless. I must be more careful.
The reason I added that was because 好きでした。 just seemed too short. It needed....something, you know?「とても好きでした。」 I didn't realize that was legal grammar, though it does make sense, now that I look closely.
No problem! If you've only been studying for a few months, then I think your current ability is quite impressive! It was an excellent first try at a journal entry. Much better than I would have been able to come up with after I had only been studying Japanese for a few months!僕をたすけて、どうもありがとうございました。 This was a decidedly poor showing on my part and it's a bit embarrassing, honestly. みなさん、ごめんなさい。 Thank you very much for your patient and useful comments, Mikawa Ossanさん.
epigene said:lgmcben:
Yes, the problem in your translation is よってたかって(寄って集って)
This is a set phrase meaning "to gang up on"
Everything else you have the words correctly, so this should give you the solution.
How about using the grammar pattern と良い?Glenn said:I remembered the other sentence I had trouble with.
何か下らんことを言ったりしたりしなければいいな。
That was my attempt at saying "I hope I didn't say or do anything stupid." It doesn't feel quite right, though, because it doesn't seem to express that I'm concerned about past events. I thought maybe よかった would have been better, but then it seemed like it would be saying "I wish I hadn't done..." and that implies that I know that I did say and do stupid things, which I don't. So, how is my attempt, and how would one express this in Japanese?
何か下らないことを言ったりしたりしたよう(の)でなければいい。 Is something like this also possible ? I also have trouble distinguishing "to" (omoimasu) and desu for wish/request type statements. Or きっと何か下らないことを言ったりしたりGlenn said:Ah. 何か下らんことを言ったりしたりしなかったと言いな。 But I thought that と was only used with non-past. Hmm...