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WilliamfDraper · 10 Jan 2023

62 , and still pretty much in decent shape , hoping to sail to JAPAN soon .

By the way , from the USA , a political dissident of about 40 years . Dealing with the NEW SURGE of some , pushing for this NEW WORLD ORDER thing . s e r i o u s s t u f f . Its all about a ROYALTY ELITIST CLASS [ Freemason and such ] , being above the law ; literally protected against the INCONVENIENT TRUTH , inconvenient people that is ........ THE PATRIOT ACT ENFORCEMENT SQUAD ....... CIA , and.......... !

thomas · 10 Jan 2023

WilliamfDraper said:
62 , and still pretty much in decent shape , hoping to sail to JAPAN soon .

By the way , from the USA , a political dissident of about 40 years . Dealing with the NEW SURGE of some , pushing for this NEW WORLD ORDER thing . s e r i o u s s t u f f . Its all about a ROYALTY ELITIST CLASS [ Freemason and such ] , being above the law ; literally protected against the INCONVENIENT TRUTH , inconvenient people that is ........ THE PATRIOT ACT ENFORCEMENT SQUAD ....... CIA , and.......... !

Hi William, welcome to the forum! Please feel free to discuss all things Japanese here on JREF. However, the other topics you mentioned in your post above are beyond the scope of our website. There are plenty of fora and social media better suited to expand on such subject matter. Thanks for your understanding.

WilliamfDraper · 11 Jan 2023

Not the best way to solve a problem .

Here in the U S A , I work on the streets with my signs ; 7 and 1 / 2 years , I don't get much response , but I know it. can't help but be doing some good .

By the way , was there any way this assailant could have addressed the problem LEGALLY ; that is , his Mother giving away everything to such an organization ; or too many in JAPAN are being swayed and covert ; in JAPAN politics .

mdchachi · 11 Jan 2023

WilliamfDraper said:
Not the best way to solve a problem .

Here in the U S A , I work on the streets with my signs ; 7 and 1 / 2 years , I don't get much response , but I know it. can't help but be doing some good .

By the way , was there any way this assailant could have addressed the problem LEGALLY ; that is , his Mother giving away everything to such an organization ; or too many in JAPAN are being swayed and covert ; in JAPAN politics .

Unfortunately his mother didn't feel that what she was doing was wrong or seem to regret it. So I don't think he had any legal recourse.

WilliamfDraper · 12 Jan 2023

mdchachi said:
Unfortunately his mother didn't feel that what she was doing was wrong or seem to regret it. So I don't think he had any legal recourse.

I believe this is a serious problem that exists in many places . In the church , I used to belong to , jW org , a form was passed out to all , once a year , in case any wished to give away their estate , GOLD , etc….

WilliamfDraper · 12 Jan 2023

thomas said:
Today, Yamagami Tetsuya was transferred back to Nara following the end of his psychiatric evaluation at the Osaka Detention House. A formal murder charge is expected to be filed by 13 January, when the detention period for Yamagami ends.

Yamagami taken to Nara after finishing psych evaluation | The Asahi Shimbun: Breaking News, Japan News and Analysis

Asahi Shinbun reported that the police learned of Yamagami's grudges against the Unification Church on the day of Abe's shooting but did not disclose that fact during a news conference held on the same evening, referring simply to a "certain group." In criminal cases, suspects are allowed to make a statement soon after police explain why they are arrested. Yamagami admitted to the shooting during police questioning at the Nara-Nishi Police Station, to which he was taken immediately after his arrest.

Police kept mum on church link despite suspect’s stated motive | The Asahi Shimbun: Breaking News, Japan News and Analysis

A better idea , would be to rent a J E L L O truck , and spray the whole bunch of them ; that is , if you just have to do something . I think a person would feel much better afterwards . Better than MURDER . People need to think about better ways of doing things . Not being funny , please do not think i would be about such , I really do not know anything much about JAPAN , but with purpose hoping to learn .

WilliamfDraper · 12 Jan 2023

g a i j i n , I must look that up .

mdchachi · 12 Jan 2023

WilliamfDraper said:
A better idea , would be to rent a J E L L O truck , and spray the whole bunch of them ; that is , if you just have to do something . I think a person would feel much better afterwards . Better than MURDER . People need to think about better ways of doing things . Not being funny , please do not think i would be about such , I really do not know anything much about JAPAN , but with purpose hoping to learn .

Yes that's a good idea. A non-lethal way to show one's displeasure that wouldn't kill people is much preferable I think.

nice gaijin · 12 Jan 2023

WilliamfDraper said:
I believe this is a serious problem that exists in many places . In the church , I used to belong to , jW org , a form was passed out to all , once a year , in case any wished to give away their estate , GOLD , etc….

Do you mind telling us what made you leave that group?

WilliamfDraper · 12 Jan 2023

nice gaijin said:
Do you mind telling us what made you leave that group?

I suppose after already believing it wasn't all that Truth that they claim it to be .

Other things , that just did not add up , just resonated more clearly ,

During the 3 - 5 years in limbo , I wrote a Book , on the most heated topic , of all churches , this book having over 500 scriptures ; in support of the jW org Church . ? How is It , that I Could write a book of this magnitude , that is more supportive of their primary doctrine ( using primarily scripture ) , than what they had available to their people ? ? ? But my 2 nd Book exposes one of their doctrinal teachings , in a very serious way .

After the loss of my 2 children to a FORCED ILLEGAL ADOPTION , being prejudicial against for being one of jW s , and receiving so little help from jW s , in this battle of 2 and 1 / 2 years … I thought 2nd TIM. 3 very appropriate .
Still seriously depressed , and visiting a new congregation , I found myself crying when in the car , driving from one neighborhood to another to preach , knocking on doors .

ABSOLUTELY NO HELP FROM ANYBODY IN THE CONGREGATION .

AT 18 , I worked as an Architectural Draftsman , 19 Engineer Apprentice Draftsman , I gave up a lot to be a Christian under the counsel of Jhvah Witnesses .
I believe elders of the church were afraid of me ; hindsight … many quite likely Freemason . Something just wasn't right in this church .

When my wife left with the children ( she also jW ) ? ? ? , going back to Fort Wayne 1100 miles away , I went up there ( 1986 ) , to talk to her , but she would not talk to me , went to the jW Church up there , and the Elders told me they didn't care to talk to me about it , etc… etc…

Well it all takes a toll , i began to realize that it was just different in many ways than other churches , but really not that much different . When writing my 2 books , I realized they used the same teaching techniques as other churches , focusing on FAVORITE SCRIPTURES , and somehow making other scriptures disappear ; SLIGHT of HAND …. also distract by going into elaborate unnecessary detail . Just like about ALL churches , they don't really learn how to use the Bible as a WHOLE , because doing this makes teaching a lot more complicated and fouls up a few doctrines .

I might add more later ….

thomas · 12 Jan 2023

William, I appreciate you sharing your story with us.

I have moved some of your posts to this intro thread to keep the other threads on topic.

nice gaijin · 12 Jan 2023

WilliamfDraper said:
I suppose after already believing it wasn't all that Truth that they claim it to be .

Other things , that just did not add up , just resonated more clearly ,

During the 3 - 5 years in limbo , I wrote a Book , on the most heated topic , of all churches , this book having over 500 scriptures ; in support of the jW org Church . ? How is It , that I Could write a book of this magnitude , that is more supportive of their primary doctrine ( using primarily scripture ) , than what they had available to their people ? ? ? But my 2 nd Book exposes one of their doctrinal teachings , in a very serious way .

After the loss of my 2 children to a FORCED ILLEGAL ADOPTION , being prejudicial against for being one of jW s , and receiving so little help from jW s , in this battle of 2 and 1 / 2 years … I thought 2nd TIM. 3 very appropriate .
Still seriously depressed , and visiting a new congregation , I found myself crying when in the car , driving from one neighborhood to another to preach , knocking on doors .

ABSOLUTELY NO HELP FROM ANYBODY IN THE CONGREGATION .

AT 18 , I worked as an Architectural Draftsman , 19 Engineer Apprentice Draftsman , I gave up a lot to be a Christian under the counsel of Jhvah Witnesses .
I believe elders of the church were afraid of me ; hindsight … many quite likely Freemason . Something just wasn't right in this church .

When my wife left with the children ( she also jW ) ? ? ? , going back to Fort Wayne 1100 miles away , I went up there ( 1986 ) , to talk to her , but she would not talk to me , went to the jW Church up there , and the Elders told me they didn't care to talk to me about it , etc… etc…

Well it all takes a toll , i began to realize that it was just different in many ways than other churches , but really not that much different . When writing my 2 books , I realized they used the same teaching techniques as other churches , focusing on FAVORITE SCRIPTURES , and somehow making other scriptures disappear ; SLIGHT of HAND …. also distract by going into elaborate unnecessary detail . Just like about ALL churches , they don't really learn how to use the Bible as a WHOLE , because doing this makes teaching a lot more complicated and fouls up a few doctrines .

I might add more later ….

Thank you for sharing your experience, it sounds like you've been through a lot.

You might be interested in the work of Dr. Steven Hassan, who was a former Moonie and dedicated the rest of his life and career to refining what he calls the influence continuum, and how it can be used to help or hurt people. Here's his analysis of JW: Jehovah's Witnesses

I've been following his podcast, The Influence Continuum, for a while now.

Here is a former JW couple giving an overview through the lens of a reissue of Hassan's first book, where he discusses his BITE model: methods of controlling Behavior, Information, Thought, and Emotion, being fundamental red flags of undue influence. The link above breaks down the red flags for each of those four categories. Not sure if any of this rings true for you or if you have found any community of former members who can understand what you've been through... He created a hashtag called #igotout, when I searched for it the 2nd or 3rd post was from someone with other hashtags like #exJW

Just bringing it back to the topic at hand, the cult that exploited a young Dr. Hassan is the very same church whose cultish control, destroying families, and meddling in politics have led to this terrible assassination. Directly and indirectly there's blood on their hands.

WilliamfDraper · 13 Jan 2023

Thanks

WilliamfDraper · 13 Jan 2023

WilliamfDraper said:
Thanks

.............................. SOMETHING EVEN MORE ATROCIOUS IS THE TEACHINGS OF FREEMASON ..............................

WilliamfDraper · 13 Jan 2023

WilliamfDraper said:
I suppose after already believing it wasn't all that Truth that they claim it to be .

Other things , that just did not add up , just resonated more clearly ,

During the 3 - 5 years in limbo , I wrote a Book , on the most heated topic , of all churches , this book having over 500 scriptures ; in support of the jW org Church . ? How is It , that I Could write a book of this magnitude , that is more supportive of their primary doctrine ( using primarily scripture ) , than what they had available to their people ? ? ? But my 2 nd Book exposes one of their doctrinal teachings , in a very serious way .

After the loss of my 2 children to a FORCED ILLEGAL ADOPTION , being prejudicial against for being one of jW s , and receiving so little help from jW s , in this battle of 2 and 1 / 2 years … I thought 2nd TIM. 3 very appropriate .
Still seriously depressed , and visiting a new congregation , I found myself crying when in the car , driving from one neighborhood to another to preach , knocking on doors .

ABSOLUTELY NO HELP FROM ANYBODY IN THE CONGREGATION .

AT 18 , I worked as an Architectural Draftsman , 19 Engineer Apprentice Draftsman , I gave up a lot to be a Christian under the counsel of Jhvah Witnesses .
I believe elders of the church were afraid of me ; hindsight … many quite likely Freemason . Something just wasn't right in this church .

When my wife left with the children ( she also jW ) ? ? ? , going back to Fort Wayne 1100 miles away , I went up there ( 1986 ) , to talk to her , but she would not talk to me , went to the jW Church up there , and the Elders told me they didn't care to talk to me about it , etc… etc…

Well it all takes a toll , i began to realize that it was just different in many ways than other churches , but really not that much different . When writing my 2 books , I realized they used the same teaching techniques as other churches , focusing on FAVORITE SCRIPTURES , and somehow making other scriptures disappear ; SLIGHT of HAND …. also distract by going into elaborate unnecessary detail . Just like about ALL churches , they don't really learn how to use the Bible as a WHOLE , because doing this makes teaching a lot more complicated and fouls up a few doctrines .

I might add more later ….

I wanted to clarify something , on visiting a different congregation , it was still a jhvah Witness church , working in the ministry with other Jhvah Witnesses , somebody else was driving . I wasn't alone being forced to go out in what is called Field Service , i did this as a personal expectation , i belived in this since about 10 or 12 years of age . I tend to be emotional about some things .

Grandpa Frank · 13 Jan 2023

My dad was a Mason but I had no interest in joining. While on a trip to Washington D.C. with my wife we decided to visit the Masonic Temple there(My wife's dad was also a Mason). The Temple was unbelievable , more things there than in the Smithsonian. You don't have to be a Mason to go in if you ask permission nicely. If you get a chance , visit it.

WilliamfDraper · 13 Jan 2023

Thanks for letting me know , I know too much already about Freemason , never seen any other person raise a Fist to my face so quickly , and not be able to talk about it . My life being threatened probably over 100 times ( more directly ) 1000 times by more subtle intimidation . I really didn't like our House Set on Fire , and some man having his hands on my 2 girls , 2 and 3 yrs. of age ; my ex wife s parents ( Freemason ) , putting our children up for adoption without my knowledge . etc…. etc…
More evolved , entitled , etc…. Above the Law , 100, 000 ways to escape accountability , etc… My Dad was a 7th Day Adventist , but I know SDA is not TRUTH , and I will call them out . Yes the 7 th Day is right , but little else .

I just don't believe in being HOSTILE towards others , because you can't talk about it . Sorry , but that is who I am …. Believer in the TEN COMMANDMENTS .

Lothor · 13 Jan 2023

WilliamfDraper said:
Thanks for letting me know , I know too much already about Freemason , never seen any other person raise a Fist to my face so quickly , and not be able to talk about it . My life being threatened probably over 100 times ( more directly ) 1000 times by more subtle intimidation . I really didn't like our House Set on Fire , and some man having his hands on my 2 girls , 2 and 3 yrs. of age ; my ex wife s parents ( Freemason ) , putting our children up for adoption without my knowledge . etc…. etc…
More evolved , entitled , etc…. Above the Law , 100, 000 ways to escape accountability , etc… My Dad was a 7th Day Adventist , but I know SDA is not TRUTH , and I will call them out . Yes the 7 th Day is right , but little else .

I just don't believe in being HOSTILE towards others , because you can't talk about it . Sorry , but that is who I am …. Believer in the TEN COMMANDMENTS .

Hi William,
This is irrelevant to the topic, but as an editor/proofreader who spends a lot of his life looking carefully at punctuation, I'm interested in why you add a space before punctuation marks. This is not a complaint - feel free to punctuate as you wish - but I've never seen it before. Is there a reason?

WilliamfDraper · 13 Jan 2023

Lothor said:
Hi William,
This is irrelevant to the topic, but as an editor/proofreader who spends a lot of his life looking carefully at punctuation, I'm interested in why you add a space before punctuation marks. This is not a complaint - feel free to punctuate as you wish - but I've never seen it before. Is there a reason?

I like to double space between words , the auto function is different on my TABLET , also interference , I do the best I can , gets a little bit tedious to keep correcting insignificant matter .

Grandpa Frank · 13 Jan 2023

My wife gives me the devil for the same thing when I write on the internet. I leave spaces when doing punctuation mostly because of crappy eyesight. I like to see that I did put a period or comma in when needed and the space lets me see it. I'm used to seeing red lines for poor spelling , but lately I get blue lines for the incorrect spaces I leave when typing here.

WilliamfDraper · 14 Jan 2023

Proper punctuation can possibly lead to less innovative idealist style .

WilliamfDraper · 14 Jan 2023

nice gaijin said:
Thank you for sharing your experience, it sounds like you've been through a lot.

You might be interested in the work of Dr. Steven Hassan, who was a former Moonie and dedicated the rest of his life and career to refining what he calls the influence continuum, and how it can be used to help or hurt people. Here's his analysis of JW: Jehovah's Witnesses

I've been following his podcast, The Influence Continuum, for a while now.

Here is a former JW couple giving an overview through the lens of a reissue of Hassan's first book, where he discusses his BITE model: methods of controlling Behavior, Information, Thought, and Emotion, being fundamental red flags of undue influence. The link above breaks down the red flags for each of those four categories. Not sure if any of this rings true for you or if you have found any community of former members who can understand what you've been through... He created a hashtag called #igotout, when I searched for it the 2nd or 3rd post was from someone with other hashtags like #exJW

Just bringing it back to the topic at hand, the cult that exploited a young Dr. Hassan is the very same church whose cultish control, destroying families, and meddling in politics have led to this terrible assassination. Directly and indirectly there's blood on their hands.

I see It all to often , inaccuracies about the jW org religion . Yes , some things I do not know about , but other things I do . Can any of us imagine , where in scripture it says …. IN THE BEGINNING ? Beginning of what exactly , What existed before anything else existed to make that which would be ' existed ' ,
How could GOD exist , without anything else existing , how much more so could 2 spiritual entities exist , without anything else being in existence .

VERY SIMPLE ……. but can anybody even understand such simplicity , it surely is a simple answer , but not one man ( that I know of ) , can explain this .

mdchachi · 14 Jan 2023

WilliamfDraper said:
Proper punctuation can possibly lead to less innovative idealist style .

Exactly. That should be every editor's motto!

WilliamfDraper · 18 Jan 2023

Here we have a leader among many who did nothing about the many crooks and laws that support crooks and it seems that he was benefitting from the crookery on top of it. And this guy's victimhood was extreme.

It seems the people are getting sick of being lied to and stolen from and are sending a message. I hope the politicians get the right message and decide to straighten up. What they usually do is try to turn the thumb screws tighter to protect what they see as their entitlements, which is our wealth and blood.

The first paragraph. sounds a lot like the U S A , and all the ENTITLEMENT S belonging to our CORRUPT FREEMASONS , another words just take what you want .

I am really shocked to see FREEMASONS in JAPAN , I believe what the U S did was unconscionable , not just one bomb , but two . I excuse myself from the conversation regarding the first that was dropped , but not the 2nd . And who made this decision , 32 degree Freemason President Truman , it is said after this raised to 33 degree .

Being that I am also a victim of US MILITARY OPERATIONS , against certain USA Citizens , yes I have the liberty to speak .

THERE WILL BE NO ' LIBERTY and JUSTICE ' ( pledge of allegiance) …… for ALL .

Its what MANY US CITIZENS really believe , and with deliberate intentions, practice .

WE ARE ' SHAMEFULLY ' BRAINWASHING OUR CHILDREN WITH

NONSENSE AND UNTRUTHFULNESS .

WilliamfDraper · 18 Jan 2023

WilliamfDraper said:
Here we have a leader among many who did nothing about the many crooks and laws that support crooks and it seems that he was benefitting from the crookery on top of it. And this guy's victimhood was extreme.

It seems the people are getting sick of being lied to and stolen from and are sending a message. I hope the politicians get the right message and decide to straighten up. What they usually do is try to turn the thumb screws tighter to protect what they see as their entitlements, which is our wealth and blood.

The first paragraph. sounds a lot like the U S A , and all the ENTITLEMENT S belonging to our CORRUPT FREEMASONS , another words just take what you want .

I am really shocked to see FREEMASONS in JAPAN , I believe what the U S did was unconscionable , not just one bomb , but two . I excuse myself from the conversation regarding the first that was dropped , but not the 2nd . And who made this decision , 32 degree Freemason President Truman , it is said after this raised to 33 degree .

Being that I am also a victim of US MILITARY OPERATIONS , against certain USA Citizens , yes I have the liberty to speak .

THERE WILL BE NO ' LIBERTY and JUSTICE ' ( pledge of allegiance) …… for ALL .

Its what MANY US CITIZENS really believe , and with deliberate intentions, practice .

WE ARE ' SHAMEFULLY ' BRAINWASHING OUR CHILDREN WITH

NONSENSE AND UNTRUTHFULNESS .

Today , we seem more on the verge of becoming HITLER 's GERMANY than ever before . CIA RECORD HIRING PRACTICES FOR OPERATIONS IN THE USA , ANOTHER KKK STYLE MURDER IN TENNESSEE , TYRE NICHOLS BEATEN TO DEATH BY OFFICERS , IMMEDIATELY AFTER ORGANIZING A COMMEMORATION . just another day in USA ,
and J A P A N f o l l o w I n g .

My own children captive by US MILITARY ( USAF ) BRAINWASHING

ONE EVIL MAN OWNS MY CHILDREN ' THE EPITOME OF FREEMASON '

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