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GoldCoinLover · 24 Dec 2005

I finally met someone who speaks proper japanese on chat. I decided to go back to chats, because it helps me pratice and learn the kana better.

Mic?

a_n_a_hana: ？

iamgaijinamerika: あなたは持っていますか?
Do you have a mic?

a_n_a_hana: うん
Un = yes. I wanted her to speak on it, since I wanted to hear japanese.

iamgaijinamerika: I am japanese student

a_n_a_hana: 日本人だよ
Are you japanese? (Guess she saw my japanese wasnt good, well it isnt)

iamgaijinamerika: 私は日本語学生です。
I am studying japanese student
a_n_a_hana: どこの国の方ですか？
Kore no country person is what?
What country are you from?

iamgaijinamerika: ええい、私はアメリカン人です。

No, Im america
iamgaijinamerika: America

a_n_a_hana: そうですか
Is tha so?
iamgaijinamerika: はい。。

a_n_a_hana: わたしは日本生まれ日本育ちです
I was born japan.

iamgaijinamerika: 私の日本語が好きですか？
Do you like my japanese?

a_n_a_hana: お上手ですね
o(polite) skilled is.
It is skillful. (What did she say?)

a_n_a_hana: 漢字を覚えるのが難しくありませんか？
Isn't the kanji hard to remember?
(At this point I went afk for a few minutes)
a_n_a_hana: では、さようなら
Well, bye.

a_n_a_hana さんが退室しました。

Then she left, when I asked why she said:
もう, パソコンめるじかんなのです
Also, plane (Or is it computer?) meru jikan nano desu.
What did she say?

Thanks. ANd merry christmas every1

GoldCoinLover · 24 Dec 2005

今日本にすんでいるんですか？？

Mike Cash · 24 Dec 2005

Please wait until you get at least halfway through the first text you're going to get before attempting stuff like this. You're only frustrating yourself. Copying and pasting stuff back and forth in some online text translator is no way to participate in a chat.

GoldCoinLover · 24 Dec 2005

Gomen nasai, mikecash-san. I appreciate your constructive critism.

GoldCoinLover · 24 Dec 2005

mikecash said:
Please wait until you get at least halfway through the first text you're going to get before attempting stuff like this. You're only frustrating yourself. Copying and pasting stuff back and forth in some online text translator is no way to participate in a chat.

How the heck am I frusterang myself? I'm having fun, and learning at the same time. I'm also learning katakana and some kanji.

I didnt' see her say any slang, either.

Mike Cash · 24 Dec 2005

You know what? You're right. What business of mine is it how you spend your free time? Knock yourself out, champ.

Elizabeth · 24 Dec 2005

GoldCoinLover said:
What? I think once agian, mikecash, you are underestimating me, AGAIN. Instesad of posting something helpful, you do your unusal route. MIKECASH, I DO KNOW SOME JAPANESE. I understood this. FOR THE MOST PART, I didn't use a translator. OK? Are you trying to imply everything I said above was incorrect? I think not.

I think if you stick to one-on-one, basic level conversation like this it's OK. Hell, might even be a class exercise if you end up ever taking one. Just let us know what you want to say in Japanese before (and keep it to the same thread) you go into a chat so you don't have to use either a translator or English.

Japanese people are always going to say your Japanese is good, or at least not bad, out of sheer politeness. They may be more impressed if you use the one jt_san taught you : 日本語合っていますか？ or 日本語はどうですか？(How is my Japanese) than 日本語が好きですか？Do you like my Japanese, sounds almost as strange as Do you like my English ?

もう, パソコンめるじかんなのです（もう, パソコンメル時間なのです）
It is already time (時間) for my パソコン (PC) める (mail). I guess she has a certain point each day to check her email.

どこの国の方ですか Doko (where) no kuni no kata desuka?

Damicci · 25 Dec 2005

What I think about this thread is, "It's peanut butter jelly time, peanut butter jelly time, peanut butter jelly time, where he at where he at where he at"

GoldCoinLover · 25 Dec 2005

Damicci said:
What I think about this thread is, "It's peanut butter jelly time, peanut butter jelly time, peanut butter jelly time, where he at where he at where he at"

what? Ooooooooooooooooookayyyyyyyy

GoldCoinLover · 25 Dec 2005

Elizabeth said:
I think if you stick to one-on-one, basic level conversation like this it's OK. Hell, might even be a class exercise if you end up ever taking one. Just let us know what you want to say in Japanese before (and keep it to the same thread) you go into a chat so you don't have to use either a translator or English.

Japanese people are always going to say your Japanese is good, or at least not bad, out of sheer politeness. They may be more impressed if you use the one jt_san taught you : 日本語合っていますか？ or 日本語はどうですか？(How is my Japanese) than 日本語が好きですか？Do you like my Japanese, sounds almost as strange as Do you like my English ?

もう, パソコンめるじかんなのです（もう, パソコンメル時間なのです）
It is already time (時間) for my パソコン (PC) める (mail). I guess she has a certain point each day to check her email.

どこの国の方ですか Doko (where) no kuni no kata desuka?

Mikecash, I apologise. Let me say this to you:

You DO give helpful advice. Criticism most of the time, but I do appreciate it. I do need a 'reality check' I suppose. I went to that web site to learn japanese, and I am getting a good text book. At least I have a passion for it, eh?

Are you being sarcastic when you say I'm right? for example, I have a feeling I'm NOT right, here's why:

I thought kara means 'from', but apparently, it means 'emptiness.'
You know, I don't give up easy

So perhaps it was "Your japanese is emptiness , skilled."

Shirimasen

Elizabeth-san, I do appreciate your help, in nudging me in the right direction. However, I knew what 'doko' meant along time ago. I'd really appreciate it if you explained the other terms, as I think I know them, but not sure.

In this case, dou does not mean also but well?

GoldCoinLover · 25 Dec 2005

Elizabeth said:
I think if you stick to one-on-one, basic level conversation like this it's OK. Hell, might even be a class exercise if you end up ever taking one. Just let us know what you want to say in Japanese before (and keep it to the same thread) you go into a chat so you don't have to use either a translator or English.

Japanese people are always going to say your Japanese is good, or at least not bad, out of sheer politeness. They may be more impressed if you use the one jt_san taught you : 日本語合っていますか？ or 日本語はどうですか？(How is my Japanese) than 日本語が好きですか？Do you like my Japanese, sounds almost as strange as Do you like my English ?

もう, パソコンめるじかんなのです（もう, パソコンメル時間なのです）
It is already time (時間) for my パソコン (PC) める (mail). I guess she has a certain point each day to check her email.

どこの国の方ですか Doko (where) no kuni no kata desuka?

Also, why is 方(kata) sed as person in this case? or does it mean from?

GoldCoinLover · 25 Dec 2005

Elizabeth said:
I think if you stick to one-on-one, basic level conversation like this it's OK. Hell, might even be a class exercise if you end up ever taking one. Just let us know what you want to say in Japanese before (and keep it to the same thread) you go into a chat so you don't have to use either a translator or English.

Japanese people are always going to say your Japanese is good, or at least not bad, out of sheer politeness. They may be more impressed if you use the one jt_san taught you : 日本語合っていますか？ or 日本語はどうですか？(How is my Japanese) than 日本語が好きですか？Do you like my Japanese, sounds almost as strange as Do you like my English ?

もう, パソコンめるじかんなのです（もう, パソコンメル時間なのです）
It is already time (時間) for my パソコン (PC) める (mail). I guess she has a certain point each day to check her email.

どこの国の方ですか Doko (where) no kuni no kata desuka?

Hmm. I was sure 'like' was suki and that was appropriate. I don't see how 'do you like my english?' is wrong or bad, but Ok.

日本語はどうですか？( hmm = watashi wa(ha) dou desuka?
What does the 'dou' mean?

Thank you, this means, is my japanese good?

Btw, I've had japanese tell me my japanese sucks

cacawate · 25 Dec 2005

Double post... sorry. Read below post.

cacawate · 25 Dec 2005

GCL said:
Elizabeth-san, I doa ppreciate your help, in nudging me in the right direction. However, I knew what 'doko' meant along time ago.

GCL said:
どこの国の方ですか？
Kore no country person is what?

GCL said:
日本語はどうですか？( hmm = watashi wa(ha) dou desuka?
What does the 'dou' mean?

'Dou' in this case means 'How'. I also agree that asking someone how they 'like' your [language] is somewhat odd.

Elizabeth · 25 Dec 2005

GoldCoinLover said:
Also, why is 方(kata) sed as person in this case? or does it mean from?

OK sorry. I didn't mean to step on any toes, but when you didn't get the kana right for Doko I wasn't sure. That is just the expression, the person's country is where ? 方 never means from.....although sometimes it is "hou," or which.

I didn't mean they would never tell you it was bad, but when they do say it was good it may be out of sheer politeness if that makes any sense. I'm sure when they said it sucked it wasn't that they disliked as you would dislike a person or a toy but that it was simply not very good.

GoldCoinLover · 25 Dec 2005

Haha, I did misspell it! Ooops, kore means this, LOL.

SOrry, it was 3 am that I posted it!

Please tell me if I made any mistakes, I need to learn how to correc tit.

RockLee · 25 Dec 2005

I advise you start from ZERO, cause this isn't gonna work out.If you have to ask someone every 5 minutes is NOT a good way to learn the language ☝

Another thing, did you try if you could get a hold on a textbook or japanese class somewhere in the neighbourhood,I assure you you will like it (At least if you're as enthousiastic about the language as me )

Elizabeth · 25 Dec 2005

GoldCoinLover said:
Mikecash, I apologise. Let me say this to you:

You DO give helpful advice. Critism most of the time, but I do appreciate it. I do need a 'reality check' I suppose. I went to that web site to learn japanese, and I am getting a good text book. At least I have a passion for it, eh?

Are you being sarcastic when you say I'm right? for example, I have a feeling I'm NOT right, here's why:

I thought kara means 'from', but apparently, it means 'emptiness.'
You know, I don't give up easy

So perhaps it was "Your japanese is emptiness , skilled."

Shirimasen

I forgot what sentence 'kara' was in now but if anyone wants to have fun with sarcastic puns it means both 'from' and 'empty' and other things like 'because' ....

GoldCoinLover · 25 Dec 2005

RockLee said:
I advise you start from ZERO, cause this isn't gonna work out.If you have to ask someone every 5 minutes is NOT a good way to learn the language ☝

Another thing, did you try if you could get a hold on a textbook or japanese class somewhere in the neighbourhood,I assure you you will like it (At least if you're as enthousiastic about the language as me )

I already understand the basics. How am I asking everyone every 5 minutes? I got every phrase correct, honestly, for a beginner, I think that's pretty good. I was asking TO MAKE SURE I got everything correct. What's wrong with that? Someone is sending me a textbook for christmas..As for classes, none in my neighbourhood. There may be some 30 minutes away in phoenix, but thats a waste of gas..

GoldCoinLover · 25 Dec 2005

Elizabeth said:
I forgot what sentence 'kara' was in now but if anyone wants to have fun with sarcastic puns it means both 'from' and 'empty' and other things like 'because' ....

Haha, many words are like that in japanese. Confusing, I know

Don't you have trouble with this? Even with sarcastic and some grammer situations, I saw you were struggling with the 'train' phrase in another post. And you're quite good in japanese! Amazing. I Guess you can never stop learning it, even when you are fluent! Hehe

Elizabeth · 25 Dec 2005

GoldCoinLover said:
Haha, many words are like that in japanese. Confusing, I know

Don't you have trouble with this? Even with sarcastic and some grammar situations, I saw you were struggling with the 'train' phrase in another post. And you're quite good in japanese! Amazing. I Guess you can never stop learning it, even when you are fluent! Hehe

I'll be very impressed if your love for the language persists even after learning the train situation was actually the exact opposite -- confusion with a word with the same pronunciation and meaning just three different kanji ( 止まる、留まる、停まる ).

Seriously, the number of homonyms is one of the most difficult aspects of learning....which is why most Japanese have to speak in such short sentences just to understand each other, never mind アメリカ人... (not アメリカン人)。

GoldCoinLover · 25 Dec 2005

Elizabeth said:
I'll be very impressed if your love for the language persists even after learning the train situation was actually the exact opposite -- confusion with a word with the same pronunciation and meaning just three different kanji ( 止まる、留まる、停まる ).

Seriously, the number of homonyms is one of the most difficult aspects of learning....which is why most Japanese have to speak in such short sentences just to understand each other, never mind アメリカ人... (not アメリカン人)。

Elizabeth-san, you are still learning right? You are very good in japanese, but I don't think you're as good as native level yet. For 5 years, your japanese is incredible. Do you live in japan? Also, do you think japanese would understand in this situation it means the opposite? How often does this happen?

Homonyms, is that words that sound different but are the same? Of course I knew it was the opposite. Elizabeth-san, even you wouldn't give up that easy. If there's one thing I'm good at , its being persistent.

hebiichigo · 25 Dec 2005

GoldCoinLover said:
Homonyms, is that words that sound different but are the same?

The opposite - Homonyms are words that sound or are spelt the same but have different meanings.

Synonyms are different words with similar meanings.

GoldCoinLover · 25 Dec 2005

hebiichigo said:
The opposite - Homonyms are words that sound or are spelt the same but have different meanings.

Synonyms are different words with similar meanings.

Thank you, I recently got a merry christmas message from a japanese friend. He told me I (or him) wouldn't stay in touch. He said my japanese has improved ,but he also mentioned violence? I see this word, being used a lot. Do you have any idea he means?

気になるのは、乱暴な日本語になっていることですね。

Genki nina runo wa(ha), (violent??) na nihongo ninna, teirugotodesune.

hebiichigo · 25 Dec 2005

I think they are worried that your Japanese is becoming 'rude', by the kind of words you are using.

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