Moi Dix Mois

Hmmm you guys have alot of good things to say👍
I like MDM in small doses, I love Malice Mizer anytim, and the rest I havent heard..(must get shadows temple).. But to mention complete industry drones outside japan..Linkin Park.. the total audition band and industry marionettes.. Loathe them really!
But back to the topic.. MDM have great musicians and it is the result of Manas ego as you say.. but how would it be if mana kept evolving and improving and changing the music? It is MDM after all.. A band that is pure Mana..
I think it is actually a band.hehe.. but does mana really controll the whole band?:eek:
 
You just said the very controdiction I've been pointing out. It cannot be "pure Mana" and a band at the same time. For it to be "pure Mana" would mean a Solo Project for it to be a band it could not be "pure Mana." Bands are about give and take. So it cannot be purely one person's "band" that is not a band. That's egotism.
Linkin Park doesn't bother me as much because they write all their stuff and every member of the band pitches in. So what if they were auditioned? Big f**king deal. Actors have to be auditioned for roles, do you call THEM rip off Artists? No. Some bands are started by friends who wanna play together some just aren't. That doesn't make them any less valid. What would make it less valid is if someone auditioned people for their band, put the band together, but controled them all not making it a band but rather someone's ego and a handful of drones (yes, Mana I'm looking at you). Take U2 for example, I do believe Bono was auditioned to be in the band. Gackt auditioned to get in Malice Mizer. I could keep going but I won't, the list is endless. Do we call these bands invalid or rip off Artists for the fact that members were auditioned? No.
 
Hyde_is_my_anti-drug said:
You just said the very controdiction I've been pointing out. It cannot be "pure Mana" and a band at the same time. For it to be "pure Mana" would mean a Solo Project for it to be a band it could not be "pure Mana." Bands are about give and take. So it cannot be purely one person's "band" that is not a band. That's egotism.
Linkin Park doesn't bother me as much because they write all their stuff and every member of the band pitches in. So what if they were auditioned? Big f**king deal. Actors have to be auditioned for roles, do you call THEM rip off Artists? No. Some bands are started by friends who wanna play together some just aren't. That doesn't make them any less valid. What would make it less valid is if someone auditioned people for their band, put the band together, but controled them all not making it a band but rather someone's ego and a handful of drones (yes, Mana I'm looking at you). Take U2 for example, I do believe Bono was auditioned to be in the band. Gackt auditioned to get in Malice Mizer. I could keep going but I won't, the list is endless. Do we call these bands invalid or rip off Artists for the fact that members were auditioned? No.
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Hmm... true true.. but still... Lets just go with calling MOI DIX MOIS a SIDEPROJECT? so it is no band, nor soloproject...

Btw.. actually many of the local bands are run just by 1 person of that band.. Like an old band I played in.. The last year the vocalist (who became a drummer when I left), took total control of everything from riffs till drumms ect.. Well... To the total "suprise" it all went to hell.. the last of those 5 years
But if gackt has musicians who plays his stuff for him under his name, and Ayu has hers ect, then..why can't Mana has his under another name than His own? Just want an oppinion..
Oh..and if u ever check out the norwegian metal scene.. there are alot of soloprojects that have other names than the persons name..
Like Isengard is Satyr Von Graven from Satyricons "soloproject"..
and the front person of the band I played in, had one he called Ravnsvarte..
 
Let me say this one more time, there is a difference between playing with a band and a band playing with you. Gackt doesn't make the pretense of being in a band, he is a Solo Artist and a band helps him preform. You have Gackt (Solo) and then GacktJOB (band). Whereas with Mana it's simply Moi Dix Moi. If it was Mana (Solo) and Moi Dix Mois (band) then it wouldn't bother me at all. But as I've said many times now that is not the case.
As you just proved control freakism isn't good for art. It doesn't matter if a lot of bands do it, it's still f**ked up.
 
Hyde_is_my_anti-drug said:
Let me say this one more time, there is a difference between playing with a band and a band playing with you. Gackt doesn't make the pretense of being in a band, he is a Solo Artist and a band helps him preform. You have Gackt (Solo) and then GacktJOB (band). Whereas with Mana it's simply Moi Dix Moi. If it was Mana (Solo) and Moi Dix Mois (band) then it wouldn't bother me at all. But as I've said many times now that is not the case.
As you just proved control freakism isn't good for art. It doesn't matter if a lot of bands do it, it's still f**ked up.
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heh.. Controll freaks are f**ked.. Shall we bury this discussion for now? You have gotten me to understand more bout tis thing... thanx:-)
But I still think the manaegotrippisitabandorwhatmoidixmois is a strange thing indeed..heh..
I just hope I get to see them live one day.. Does mana have other "bands" or soloprojects goin on?
 
Hyde_is_my_anti-drug said:
No, he does not. He produces bands on his label but that's about it besides MDM.
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What is this Shadows Temple you seem to mention?
From your point it sounds like a great band:-)
 
It's not a band it's a song by MDM. It's the only one they've done that I can actually listen to on a daily basis.
 
Hyde_is_my_anti-drug said:
It's not a band it's a song by MDM. It's the only one they've done that I can actually listen to on a daily basis.
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Cool.. Ill see if I have that one.. I listen rarely to MDM these days... I am more into x-japan these days.. had a period when I listened to Art of Life over and over again.. It just gets better everytime you hear it:-)
I just wish mana would change his format into something more variable..
 
A new album from Moi dix Mois out on 2006.3.1.
Beyond the Gate.
Apparently they have a new vocalist - or so it's thought. *hasn't checked*
 
Yeay, Mana finally replaced Juka. Just as long as the new guy doesn't sound like a rip off of past MM vocalists we should get along just dandy. :-)
 
HEY!!! I've just found a short klip of mana talking! have anyone see it? I think his voice is not like... his dress 😊
 
everyone knows Juka's voice is like gackt n klaha but maybe Mana likes that sort of voice so he's been searching for vocalists who sounds like that. ☝ it's his project so he can do anything with it.. i think it's nice that Mana has found his direction of music in gothic style..after all, he was the one who started all the gothic scene in japan(or at least, played a big part in starting it) it's alrite if he wants to stick to making that type of music for as long as he wants to.. its my humble opinion..:sorry: i'm not crazy bout MDM songs but i do like bara no seidou ..even more than merveilles when it's released.. :p
 
I'll certainly be curious to know what the new stuff sounds like.
I hope to hear a movement from the previous stuff, rather then to continue with the same sound, but I guess they'll be doing what they want to do - not what I want them to do... :eek: :D
 
-rika- shinya' said:
everyone knows Juka's voice is like gackt n klaha but maybe Mana likes that sort of voice so he's been searching for vocalists who sounds like that. it's his project so he can do anything with it.. i think it's nice that Mana has found his direction of music in gothic style..after all, he was the one who started all the gothic scene in japan(or at least, played a big part in starting it) it's alrite if he wants to stick to making that type of music for as long as he wants to.. its my humble opinion.. i'm not crazy bout MDM songs but i do like bara no seidou ..even more than merveilles when it's released..
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There's a difference between a TYPE of voice and then sounding like a carbin-copy of a singer.
And I am all for having one's own sound but it'd be nice if the individual songs themselves didn't all sound the same. :eek:
And true he can do whatever the hell he wants...doesn't mean I have to like what he does however.
 
wow.. looks like u are really.. anti-juka... :? or perhaps, anti-the new-mana(for intentionally making Juka sound like MM vocalists)? :sick:

hm..hopefully the new album(n new vocalist) will come out differently than expected...
 
There's noting "new" about Mana THAT'S what's bugging me.
I don't hate Juka per say I just hate Mana for bringing him into the "band." It's not always someone's fault that they sound like someone else. But the fact that he sounds JUST LIKE GACKT and yet Mana brought him into the "band" really, really, really irks me on a basic level. And I never said Mana was "making him sound like MM vocalists" (1. because he doesn't sound like MM vocalists) he's not "making him" sound like Gackt, Juka just does all by his lonesome. What I'm getting on Mana for is getting a vocalist that sounds like a Gackt-rip-off on perpose (and don't say he didn't know, he KNEW. You'd have to be stone deaf not to know and Mana is by no means deaf). Yes, Mana, you made your point. I get it. But honestly, did you have to go that far?
 
geez.. i don't think u have to be so worked up. if u don't like it, then juz don't listen. you've made your point, we all know that..

Edit: oh,and um.. this is not gonna make any difference but..by the new-mana , i mean the mana after he left MM and formed MDM.. old-mana is when he was in MM.. 😌 .... something like that i guess.. sort of like miyabi and miyavi..
 
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I liked Juka's voice. :o
I don't mind if the new person sounds like him... BUT I want their music to do something different! It seems they don't advance!
It isn't the vocal sound I object to... it's more the overall compositions and "sound".
 
Yeah, that too. But the vocalist thing still bugs the crap outta me. And has anyone noticed that Mana seems to be unable to keep vocalists for more then a few years at a time? Not guitarists, not bassists but vocalists. Hm, now I wonder why that is?
 
I bet Mana is bastard to work with.
What am I saying? I mean work for.
Strange that it seems to be vocalists that have that problem. Maybe because Mana wants to keep his position as the "boss", and yet, as frontman, the vocalist tends to be looked at as "lead" even when he isn't? :?
 

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