me and my gf want to move to japan

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what will we need to move? we don't know much Japanese but willing to learn (we only know some words from watching anime). what area is the best in Tokyo or near Tokyo. is there rent to own homes/apartments. we have a cat and a dog. is there any websites that are good at looking at apartments and or houses. anything else will be helpfull
 
Looks like you have researched quite a bit. Make sure you get the correct visas for the cat and dog though, sometimes Japanese immigration will require the pets to have some knowledge of Japanese cat language and Dog language. Usually they will need a level of CALP 3 and DALP 3(Cat & Dog association of Language Proficiency)
 
Do you guys really love each other? If yes, then I suggest you marry each other first. It's really difficult to move to Japan though, but if one of you could get a Visa to work there, atleast one of you could sponsor the other because you two are married. If not, then you should INDIVIDUALLY find a way to get a Visa, and will work for it individually, just pray that both of you will work at the same place. But if your married, then sponsors might be another way..
 
You can't just move here. Both of you need visas, whether for work, study, cultural activities, or marital dependence.

Work those out first. Leave the pets behind. Japan is not very pet friendly in apartments.
 
suumo.jp/‎ and www.athome.co.jp/‎ are good sites. I don't know your finances, but in general areas around Meguro, Ebisu and Yoyogi are good. If your finances are not very good, find a place along the 東急 line.
Btw, you need native level Japanese to land a good job in Japan.
 
Me and the wife were looking into moving to Japan. Biggest problem is the visa. If you don't get a job, and sponsorship, after three months, it's GTFO time.
Having animals presents other problems. I forget the exact details, but something along the lines of needing blood work done six months prior to departure. When you arrive animals go into quarantine for a couple days, up to six months. (and I don't even want to think what would happen if they don't get cleared)
Even if you could speak conversational Japanese I imagine getting a job is hard (other than teaching English) because why would someone go through the hassles of sponsoring a foreigner, and all the legal hoops that come with it, when there are plenty of locals to hire.


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This person's situation is a bit similar to mine. My boyfriend and I are interested in moving to Japan as well but not any time soon. Where our situation probably differs is we were military stationed in Japan for over two years and was able to interact with the culture quite a bit. We fell in love with the beauty and culture of Japan but unfortunately once our contract ended we had to go back to United States. Still we hope to move back one day and are trying to work towards some goals to make the move a bit easier. If anyone has any advise please let me know. I am doing all of the research right now and listing my goals to work towards.

Currently I trying to complete my Bachelors in Business Administration and working full time as a Customer Service Representative. Soon I hope to move up to an Administrative Assistant. Also while I was in Japan I was able to take several courses in Japanese and still trying to study the language. Of course, watching anime in Japanese helps get a feel of the language but I do miss hearing my Japanese co-workers speak and educate me on how to speak it. My boyfriend of several years is interested in possibly teaching English and will soon start on his degree for teaching. We were looking towards possibly being employed by the military since we came from it but we figured that the culture is what we were going for so we would like to try our luck at getting a job that deals more with the Japanese.

Mainly, I would like to know how much should I try and save for a move to Japan? What obstacles should we work towards overcoming trying to obtain a job and visa? Our hearts are set on Kyoto at this time, should we reconsider?

I have been reading through a lot of threads about moving and did a good amount of research for this move. To be honest, I am very driven towards this goal. Also I understand it will not happen overnight and this is why I am doing so much research on this so I can make the transition as smooth as possible. I would appreciate any advice or input on this since I find my situation somewhat similar to the person who started this thread and would love to hear from people with all the experiences. Thank you in advance!
 
(1) Make sure you both get your degrees

(2) Generally speaking, a non-technical degree normally means that you need to be pretty darn fluent in Japanese to get a company to sponsor you for a visa + job. There is the perpetual 文系 vs 理系 divide. Programmers, software developers, engineers, etc, usually get away with not having much Japanese language skills. Teaching is one of the exceptions but the career progression is quite bleak. The alternative is to find a job with an MNC that is not very Japanese in culture.

(3) On the above note, improve on your Japanese as much as possible... and make sure you have proof.

(4) If possible, get married before coming over, since that simplifies matters. If one gets a job first, he/she will need to prove that he/she has the financial means to sponsor the other.

(5) Bear in mind that many recruitment agencies do not have the license to operate outside of Japan, i.e. they are legally not allowed to look for hires outside of Japan. So you might not want to waste your time with small agencies.
 
This person's situation is a bit similar to mine. My boyfriend and I are interested in moving to Japan as well but not any time soon. Where our situation probably differs is we were military stationed in Japan for over two years and was able to interact with the culture quite a bit.
That will obviously give you some advantage in knowing a little before you come.

If anyone has any advise please let me know. I am doing all of the research right now and listing my goals to work towards.
First piece of advice: both of you need to work on this together! Since you are not married, both of you will have to get your own work visas. Only if you are married will you be able to trust in just one work visa and the other gets a dependent visa (but work only part-time).

Currently I trying to complete my Bachelors in Business Administration and working full time as a Customer Service Representative. Soon I hope to move up to an Administrative Assistant.
With the little Japanese you seem to have learned (I admit, though, that you have not made it clear exactly what your level of speaking/reading/writing is), you are barely qualified for any sort of work here. No way will you be hired for AA work in an office unless you have better Japanese, even in an office run by foreigners. Keep this strongly in mind.

Also while I was in Japan I was able to take several courses in Japanese and still trying to study the language. Of course, watching anime in Japanese helps get a feel of the language
Pardon me, but are you kidding? Does watching Bugs Bunny or the Super Friends give any foreigner an idea how people really speak in the U.S.? I think not. Get back into a real language training program.

My boyfriend of several years is interested in possibly teaching English and will soon start on his degree for teaching. We were looking towards possibly being employed by the military since we came from it but we figured that the culture is what we were going for so we would like to try our luck at getting a job that deals more with the Japanese.
You would know far better than I whether a civilian contractor could work on a base teaching English to the locals. I don't think it's likely. Teaching is not the most lucrative of careers, either. Get over to the ESL Cafe web site and ask around what teaching here entails as a career.

Mainly, I would like to know how much should I try and save for a move to Japan? What obstacles should we work towards overcoming trying to obtain a job and visa? Our hearts are set on Kyoto at this time, should we reconsider?
You won't be able to move here and jump into most apartments because you won't have an employer to serve as guarantor. So, you'll have to figure on a guest house (gaijin house) for a while. LeoPalace21 provides furnished apartments with internet, and I think they don't require guarantors, but you have to pay all of your rent up front. Confirm. Want an apartment, and you should expect to pay a lot up front in key money, 2-5 times a month's rent. Always have enough money to buy a return ticket, too.

Obstacles abound, and I've already touched on a couple. What time of year you plan to be here is another potential problem. As I see it, though, you (not the boyfriend) have the more serious problem. Teachers are a dime a dozen, but most non-teaching jobs require fairly high language skills, experience, and skills that a local doesn't have. As for Kyoto, there are actually fewer teaching jobs there than you might think. Don't focus on only one area if you want to maximize your possibilities.

I have been reading through a lot of threads about moving and did a good amount of research for this move.
No offense, but it doesn't come off that way with what you have written here. You've asked pretty much what every newbie would ask if they've never set foot in the country. Perhaps more specific questions would help us understand what you haven't learned yet.
 
As a former member of the military stationed here myself, I will take the liberty of remarking that you should be careful of overestimating the depth and degree to which being here as a service member exposes one to how things are in Japan and what it is really like to live and work here. Service members live in the sheltering bubble of the base and are firmly attached to Uncle Sam's umbilical cord. Service members leave Japan after a couple years thinking they've been playing in the major league when they've actually been playing tee-ball.

it's a different country when you get away from the bases, and life here is an entirely different proposition when you're cut off from them.
 
I am really grateful to all the honest input from everyone. Of course, I will be sure to do more research with all the information everyone has given me. Thank you for your time and have a great day.
 
I am really grateful to all the honest input from everyone. Of course, I will be sure to do more research with all the information everyone has given me. Thank you for your time and have a great day.

Do stay with us as you work your way toward your goal. We'll be glad to be of help, and will be able to be of more specific and practical use as your move nearer your goal. Also please note that we have a Learning Japanese section where you can get some excellent help. You have the advantage of having a few years prep time; make good use of them for language learning.
 
Thank you, Mr. Cash. I will be sure to stay in tune. While I was browsing the forum yesterday and was able to read through some of those threads. It's quite invigorating to read through the different conversations about learning and deciphering the Japanese language. I do plan to be joining it in the near future to learn it better. Unfortunately I admit to have been out of touch on with the language so I still have to go over my basics first. Hopefully not much has been forgotten and I can join on some more intermediate levels. If not I will be glad to just join in on the simpler one and build myself up. :-)
 
Hi VTran08,

While the initial barriers can be discouraging, I think a lot depends on your age. If you are mid-career age, then it is a big risk to just make a move. but if you are younger and still have time to recover career-wsie if it goes belly up, well IMO that is what youth is for - to take chances and see what happens.

You could come over here and teach English at a language school and after a year see how you have managed on Japanese and if you decide it is not for you, you could pretty much break even on the experience financially (depends more on what your opportunity cost is)

If you network well (and I think it is easier in the smaller cities) you can try to make your own job. If you have skills outside of English and are able to get introduced (Intros are often more important that what you know in some ways in this country0.

So while there is some very good advice about the challenges, I have always been an optimist who likes a challenge.


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Good luck and please join the community (I am newcomer to the site and everyone seems quite helpful).

Cheers
 
Thank you, tomoni-san. I am very grateful for your optimism and response. There are still a lot of things I am researching. Right now some of the initial steps makes me apprehensive but I am up for the challenge.

Unfortunately my brain seem to slower than it use to, :-) though my face still looks 18 at times. But as my boyfriend would say, 'I have to practice using my noodle more or it will turn to mush.' I am very excited for all the replies I've had and is hitting the books and internet search engines hard. This is one thing in life I have always wanted to do before my time is up. I am praying that everything I am doing now pays off. Thank you very much. It is nice to know that I am not the only new one. :-)
 
The easiest thing about learning Japanese is....putting it off until later. Many and many a well-intentioned and perfectly sincere aspirant has had their plans of Japanese proficiency slowly slip down the rabbit hole of procrastination. Just make sure you're not one of them.
 
Mr. Cash, I couldn't agree with you more. I hear the wisdom in your words. One of my reasons for joining this forum was to get more practice with it. Unfortunately if it is not part of our daily life it can easily be placed on the back burner. :-\ This is the reason I brought all of my books out to study at least an hour a day if not more. You can't conquer a language in one day but with a good amount of effort I am sure I can get to where I was before and better. :-)
 
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