(8)の possessive勉強する is a -suru verb, so takes the object which is indicates by を. On the other hand, 勉強 also can be a noun, so there can be another expression 勉強をする in the same meaning. する is a verb here. 勉強 is a noun in 勉強をする, so の is needed to connect 日本語 and 勉強. It's like "to study Japanese" vs. "to do study of Japanese" in English.
Are you sure this isn't が? は doesn't quite seem right here, as it would "rule" the entire sentence, where this seems like a simple clause.Zizka said:(4)was は but I don't know why. Likely topical.
Zizka said:(7)は contrastive.
別々 isn't really an "adjective", though it's serving an adjectival function here. This usage is kind of similar to 他の that you saw elsewhere. You can consider them "adjectival nouns" of a sort that connect to nouns with の.Zizka said:(8)の connector: separate building. I didn't know you could connect an adjective with a noun with の.
Yes, though again, 女 is a noun, not an adjective.Zizka said:(5)の So is this a case where I link my adjective with の again like in the previous sentence with ''separate/different'' building? I'll go with that as it worked in the previous sentence so logically it should work in this one.
週に五時間にあります is not valid.Zizka said:(5)に indicates the frequency of an action.
が suggests that something is exhaustive. Since this is explicitly about having one type of class and then having another *too, も makes more sense here.Zizka said:(6)が existence of something. も Don't know why.
で marks the location of an action. います (to exist) is not considered an action.Zizka said:(2)で composition に...? As in what?
I think you mean "exhaustive", not "inclusive."Zizka said:(4)(5)(6)と and... や... this makes no sense to me whatsoever. How am I suppose to tell from the sentence that the list is non-exhaustive? It could be an inclusive list: In my class there are x, y, z and that's it.
Zizka said:(2)の connector. Here I was tempted to put を but then it struck me that this is likely a case of of 「勉強するクラス」being just one single self-defined noun. No, it was を.
"Where the action takes place" isn't に.Zizka said:(3)(4)には: where the action takes place
のついて is not valid. As I might have mentioned before, you can think of ~について as a compound particle meaning "about". You won't see any other particles before ついて in this usage.Zizka said:(5)の I'd say connector as in "about the Meiji restoration".
It's not weird. に connects 明治維新 with ついて (as above, you can consider ~について as a single compound particle). If you want to connect the modifying phrase 明治維新について to the noun 本 the answer has to be の. This is similar to 日本での生活 ("[my] life in Japan") and other constructions you've seen before, where a noun/particle combination is modifying another noun.Zizka said:(6)ついて, I've seen that before. It's the same as in #10. So I'll go with the same answer. に. It was the reverse: に and の. So の to connect the "book" and "about" for (6). And に after 明治維新 as in? Don't know. It's weird, I thought it was the exact same thing as #10 as both had ついて followed by a blank.
お昼に isn't necessarily invalid when talking about time, but this is essentially using お昼 as a stand-in for 昼ご飯. It's talking about lunch as a meal, so は is more natural (it's also the topic of everything that follows, so it makes sense that it's the widely "ruling" は rather than a more strictly binding particle like に)Zizka said:(1)に: time when an action take place. は: topical
と is not necessarily invalid, but note that the nuance is different.Zizka said:(6)と: and も although I thought saying "and also" would be grammatically correct to be honest.
This goes back to what Toritoribeさん said about the topic "ruling" the entire sentence. If you make this は, it implies the entire sentence is talking about class. But it isn't; after the comma, class's role in the sentence is done, and the topic is completely something else. So "class" is simply the grammatical subject of 終わる (hence が).Zizka said:(2)は: topical, same thing as in #7. が as it turns out, go figure.
I'm a bit surprised that your book is springing this on you here, because this is a completely different use of ~と that is considered a conditional. Maybe look up と in your Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar and read up on the conditional usage where と follows a plain form verb.Zizka said:(3)まで: I'm tempted to use まで as in "until"... と... no clue why.
Honestly, きみ子さんと私は一緒にうちに帰ります is perfectly valid and sounds more natural to me than きみ子さんと私とうちに帰ります。Zizka said:(5)は: topical と so this time we were suppose to make the full list with と. I guess you need to take a wild guess with that situation.
I've read something about that before. The exercise difficulty is pretty inconsistent I find. Like the question with the classes *including* such and such nationalities which I felt was a bit of a trap more than anything else.I'm a bit surprised that your book is springing this on you here, because this is a completely different use of ~と that is considered a conditional. Maybe look up と in your Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar and read up on the conditional usage where と follows a plain form verb.
In this case the sentence wouldn't have a topical は at all. That felt out of place. I've been used to most sentences starting with は at some point in time.This goes back to what Toritoribeさん said about the topic "ruling" the entire sentence. If you make this は, it implies the entire sentence is talking about class. But it isn't; after the comma, class's role in the sentence is done, and the topic is completely something else. So "class" is simply the grammatical subject of 終わる (hence が).
AとBもあって = there is also that and that...In AもBもあって , both A and B are marked by も as the subjects of ある, meaning "There's both A and B..." (with a nuance emphasizing the variety).
In AとBもあって, the noun phrase AとB is being marked with も, so it specifically means "There is also A and B (in addition to other things)."
By the way I couldn't find について anywhere in the beginner dictionary. It's not in the glossary, might be in the intermediate dictionary... and yes it is. I'll read it there.#87jt_, Yesterday at 20:47
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Zizka said:
(3)(4)には: where the action takes place
"Where the action takes place" isn't に.
It's 図書館で本を読みました, not 図書館に本を読みました.
Even with the double particle, the rule governing に vs. で still applies.
Zizka said:
(5)の I'd say connector as in "about the Meiji restoration".
のついて is not valid. As I might have mentioned before, you can think of ~について as a compound particle meaning "about". You won't see any other particles before ついて in this usage.
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(6)ついて, I've seen that before. It's the same as in #10. So I'll go with the same answer. に. It was the reverse: に and の. So の to connect the "book" and "about" for (6). And に after 明治維新 as in? Don't know. It's weird, I thought it was the exact same thing as #10 as both had ついて followed by a blank.
It's not weird. に connects 明治維新 with ついて (as above, you can consider ~について as a single compound particle).
Actually, other verbs than 行く and 来る are rarely used in this expression.I thought it was only with 行く but really it's with any movement verbs.
Oh, sorry. My bad. I meant 会社勤めの男の人達 means (male) office workers in general.Also, I don't really understand this:
Notice that the subject of #12 and #13 are both わたし. As I wrote previously, the topic even rules the next sentence until the the topic is changed. The topic in the last sentence of #11 わたしはいろいろ教えてもらいます still rules those sentences (i.e., the topic is still わたし also in #12 and #13).In this case the sentence wouldn't have a topical は at all. That felt out of place.
Think about the difference in the sentences below.So basically, if I put は at the beginning of the sentence, I need first read the whole sentence to make sure everything else is related to whatever I've associated は with? Is that what you guys are trying to say? If so, then it's simple and I understand it.
So that's why. Makes sense.Notice that the subject of #12 and #13 are both わたし. As I wrote previously, the topic even rules the next sentence until the the topic is changed. The topic in the last sentence of #11 わたしはいろいろ教えてもらいます still rules those sentences (i.e., the topic is still わたし also in #12 and #13).
So that's what I should probably focus on. A subtopic は=contrastive は and they are often used for time and location. That's one way to set it apart I imagine.but it's often time or location or like that.