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News Johnny Kitagawa: Japan’s J-pop predator

Leaving aside the moral question on sex with minors (I know it hasn't always been morally verboten but circumstances were different then - these days people grow up more slowly, particularly in Japan), the unanimous testimony of the men who came forward was of a clear tacit understanding that sexual acts with Kitagawa were necessary for them to make it in the industry. This is all about abuse of power and non-consensual sexual relationships, and cannot be condoned under any circumstances, be it 20th century Japan or Ancient Rome.

I find your comparisons with Britain and America a bit baffling to be honest. Not once during this discussion have I tried to compare the overall level of problems in the countries - in fact, I think Japan's society is currently functioning far better than Britain's (I'm not discussing America because I'm not American) and I don't see Japan as a 'den of debauchery'. My point is that certain aspects of its society allow abuse to remain unchecked, and if its method of social control is shame, then shame it has to be.
 

We were speaking of the circus. You claimed to advocate the circus over sweeping these things under the rug. America and Britain are prime examples of the circus while Japan remains a prime example of sweeping things under the rug. Or at least, that is what I see.

I don't know of any society that has clearly dealt with sexual issues fully, especially those of a minority or perceived minority. No. I only see stupid, after stupid after stupid. So its either embrace the stupid with a circus, or, try and thwart the stupid by sweeping things under the rug.

This is definitely not about what I want. What I want is a complete, scientific analysis that allows as much compassion, wisdom, tolerance and calm as could be achieved. But I gave up. Its not possible. It cannot be done. People simply won't have that. We can't even talk openly about perfectly normal husband and wife sex in mixed company so its utterly hopeless to talk about anything even slightly more odd and get anywhere.

As for what constitutes abuse of power and what is consent or not, this case is definitely abuse of power and non-consent. But don't try and tell me the guy had some other options. He had none, so he did this. Its not what I want. I am just telling you what I see.

To go any deeper we would need to establish what is consent exactly and what is abuse of power exactly, and what isn't. And that is a deep, deep rabbit hole that people simply don't seem to have the intellect to plumb or the will to remain calm. There is no discussion to be had. No solution to be commonly accepted. Its utterly hopeless and a key reason why this world is such utter piles of feces is cause sex and sexual satisfcation are key to our everything, but we can't get to the bottom of it since it causes all hell to break loose if we try.

So, its under the rug for me. Anyone that doesn't like it, can just go home and have it different.....and all that comes with that "solution".
 
But don't try and tell me the guy had some other options. He had none, so he did this. Its not what I want. I am just telling you what I see.
Then you're arguing that Kitagawa was a victim of his appetites and had no control over his behaviour. I can't accept that, because it denies the whole concept of free will and therefore adults having some responsibility for their actions. You often criticise the behaviour of others (no criticism of you intended - so do I), but there's not really any point in doing so if we don't have any control over what we do.

I'm going to end this conversation, not out of any rancour, because it's been interesting, but we're approaching the issue from such different underlying assumptions that there's going to be no common ground.
 
but there's not really any point in doing so if we don't have any control over what we do.

Here lies a very serious problem, simple as it may be. Most of us do have control and I am sure Kitagawa was no exception. But what exactly control is is a conversation in itself. Most people I have talked to (Anglos) take it to mean an ability to completely forego and ignore one's deepest desires from birth to death with no real negative consequences, as if humans are robots, can be robots or should aspire to be robots....good little Victorian robots living lives completely at odds with their own happiness.

Well that is downright silly and its never going to happen. It just drives both good and bad underground where they spoil and fester and can have some really powerful and bad results. It makes for disaffected populations that are easier to control and fleece though. And you will note its not only in Japan where the rich and the powerful don't adhere to any dogma of absolute denial. I doubt there are many Japanese on Jeffrey Epstein's client list.

I'm going to end this conversation

Fair enough. I just want to make it clear that though I be for the Japanese way of brushing past all this, its not because I am careless and unconcerned. Its because I am sure there are better ways, but the attacks I have received while trying to present them just makes me think its hopeless for humanity to improve on this and related subjects amid half a conversation, which is always a demand for an ever more powerful crackdown.
 
Today, a team of experts investigating Kitagawa's sexual abuse delivered a scathing report, urging Johnny's & Associates President Julie Keiko Fujishima to step down after the family-run business left the issue unaddressed for decades.







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Julie Keiko Fujishima, the president of Johnny & Associates, announced her resignation today following allegations of child sex abuse against the company's late founder, Johnny Kitagawa.





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Her resignation made international headlines:

 
And the rats are fleeing the sinking ship: beverage makers Asahi Group Holdings and Kirin Holdings announced separately on Friday that they would no longer use stars from Johnny & Associates in TV commercials.






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Good Lord!



 
Even worse is the decade-long complicity of the media, including the NHK.

Yesterday, several broadcasters, including NTV, TV Asahi and Fuji TV, issued rare apologies for failing to report on the allegations for years. It needed a foreign newspaper to get the ball rolling. And let's not forget that former PM Abe was still praising Kitagawa in his eulogy in 2019.

 
So far, the reactions of their sponsors have been mixed: some have already cut their ties (Asahi, Kirin), others are still contemplating or in the process of cutting ties (McDonald's, Suntory, Kao, Daiichi Sankyo), while some (Menicon Co., Keihan Holdings Co., Mos Food Services Inc.) say they will continue to collaborate with their stars, arguing they could not be held responsible for Kitagawa's offences.

At a news conference on 12 September, Takeshi Niinami, chairman of Keizai Doyukai (Japan Association of Corporate Executives), said a company is tolerating child abuse if it keeps using Johnny & Associates idols. He actually used the English term "child abuse".

 
"While some (Menicon Co., Keihan Holdings Co., Mos Food Services Inc.) say they will continue to collaborate with their stars, arguing they could not be held responsible for Kitagawa's offences."

The stars weren't responsible for Kitagawa's offences, but it's an odd response in a country where collective responsibility is the norm. I sense a hastily made up justification.

There must be some very interesting discussions going on at NHK at the moment. This story is likely to continue to run, and in a couple of months NHK has to announce its lineup for the Kohaku event. They're going to have to jump one way or the other - show their loyalty to a brand that is horribly tarnished and further damage their credibility, or cause massive ructions in the entertainment industry and put Johnny's back in the news by announcing that this year's event won't feature the company's bands.
 
The BBC is following up on major Japanese brands cutting ties with the country's biggest talent agency.


 
I'm not sure that's going to change anything... it did not work in the case of the Unification Church (now officially called "The Family Federation for World Peace and Unification (FFWPU)").

 
In a press conference earlier today, the talent agency announced they'd rename their company "Smile-Up" and task it solely with compensating hundreds of abuse victims. They would also establish a new company dedicated to managing its performers. Former President Julie Keiko Fujishima, Kitagawa's niece, will continue to hold all shares of what will become Smile-Up. After the compensation process is complete, the company will cease operations.




 
Two related news this week:

Nippon Television Network Corp. acknowledged "pandering" to Johnny & Associates Inc. for over two decades despite reports of sexual abuse committed by Kitagawa. They and everyone else!

The investigation was conducted in response to a report by an agency-established panel that said the "silence of mass media" was a contributing factor that allowed Kitagawa to continue sexually abusing minors for decades.



Also, the public relations company that handled Johnny & Associates Inc.'s news conference on 2 October made a blacklist of journalists who were not allowed to ask questions.


 
'Pandering' was an understatement. The channel spent a number of days 'mourning' Kitagawa when he died. I'm sure they didn't have to go quite that far to keep in the agency's good books.

It felt good seeing on this morning's news the 'Johnny's and Associates' sign removed from their HQ.
 
What is "pandering" in Japanese?
 
More problems for Johnny's (or Smile-Up. ) - a row about a blacklist of awkward journalists who were not to be invited to ask questions at the big news conference.

Prioritising friendly journalists at press conferences is the norm in Japan - it's certainly done by the government. The fact that the media are reporting this indicates just how much power Johnny's has lost - the media wouldn't do this if they feared any repercussions.
 
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I'd say Johnny's empire has finally crumbled to pieces. Thanks to the BBC.

It was also a British journalist, The Guardian's Jonathan Watts, who openly criticised Japan's kisha club system:


 
Interesting speculative article from the Japanese press on how the evil empire will break up (similarly to a yakuza group apparently) and what will happen to the performers.

 
Fascinating comparison! I was under the impression that "Smile Up" was only established for compensation and liquidation. With the agency becoming a pariah, I assume those "talents" will slowly peel off and seek greener pastures.
 
And here we are: NHK decided not to use any former Johnny's or Smile-Up acts for its famous New Year's Eve musical show, "Kohaku Uta Gassen." This is the first time in 44 years that the company's performers will not appear on the music show.





 
Credit where credit is due: last Sunday, TBS aired the findings of a special internal investigation committee that examined the relationship between the broadcaster and the disgraced talent agency now called Smile-Up Inc. The investigation revealed that TBS not only disregarded sexual abuse allegations against Kitagawa but also tried to protect a member of his talent agency from media exposure. The committee, set up by parent company TBS Holdings Inc. and led by lawyers who used to be prosecutors, interviewed 125 people, including current and past employees of TBS.

The president of TBS Holdings, Sasaki Takashi, said on the program that the company will "reflect seriously" on its failure to report Kitagawa's sexual abuse until this year. Sasaki explained that as Johnny & Associates grew larger and more influential, people in the TBS news and production bureaus increasingly exercised restraint out of concern for the agency's feelings.

 
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