You better study
Another useful academic books in English.
The Over All Pictures of Nanking Massacre in Feifei Li and Robert Sabella and Prrry Link ,eds., Nanking 1937 :Memory and Healing, （New York: M.E.Sharpe, 2001）.
Nanking Massacre as War Propaganda Keeping Still Alive, Mihail E. Ionescu ed.,War, Military and Media from Gutenberg to Today （Bucharest: Military Publishing House, 2004）.
Thank you, this is what I'm looking for and only this.
...however, after searching numerous book sites from amazon to abe books and also using Google, I'm not finding these books anywhere. Could you provide links? These are seeming to be very questionable from the start and should not be this difficult to simply locate.
Again, statements without strong proof on a subject like this mean next to nothing.
I know Japanese version only about fake photos things Amazon product ASIN 4794213816I don't know the other. Maybe you better contact US National Congress Library or somewhere??
Probably somthing oposition about Nanking things are denied by Chinese-influenced media or politicians in your country???
As I said, Nanking things are not academically exploited yet as Chinese government hides many proof. I think you should go to China and discover the facts if possible.
The point is ...... you are telling so-called Nanking massacre based on uncertain or fake information.
We don't need Chinese sources, there is plenty available in Japan and the United States (the Smythe Study YOU cited)
Again, for the fifth time; The massacre happened; no academic would claim it didn't, and neither does the Askew or the Smythe studies linked above.
How many died? It is not clear, but at a minimum 27,000 civilians were killed, and approximately 30,000 to 80,000 Chinese prisoners of war. These are derived from Japanese war studies conducted by Kasahara and Hata (which the Askew claims is a "first hand source.")
I don't believe 300,000 died, but more likely 100,000 did.
The number of killed in such events is impossible to narrow down perfectly, but from what I have seen less than 300,000 is much more likely like you stated. Number tend to vary a lot with the nuclear bomb deaths in Japan as well, Japan picking the high numbers and America going for the lower ones.
The argument on the numbers not being as high at stated (300,000) is a strong one, but that is a given. Same goes for the comfort women issue possibly.
We don't need Chinese sources, there is plenty available in Japan and the United States (the Smythe Study YOU cited)
Again, for the fifth time; The massacre happened; no academic would claim it didn't, and neither does the Askew or the Smythe studies linked above.
How many died? It is not clear, but at a minimum 27,000 civilians were killed, and approximately 30,000 to 80,000 Chinese prisoners of war. These are derived from Japanese war studies conducted by Kasahara and Hata (which the Askew claims is a "first hand source.")
I don't believe 300,000 died, but more likely 100,000 did.
I don't know the fact because I was not there. BUT ....
IF you want to believe it, you can believe .... BUT what you believe is called as Religion.
You might as well be believe in a religion given the fact that almost every piece of evidence you've posted here actually stated there was a massacre.
History should be examined my professional historians.
True history should be taught at all schools from all over the world.
Honesty should always be our first moral towards each other.
After wars we should try to shake hands again. Bitterness, revanges and denying wars brings on new wars.
Such is life.
Anti-Japanese Education in ChinaAfter wars we should try to shake hands again. Bitterness, revanges and denying wars brings on new wars
Iris Chang on Rape of Nanking
she did not know what emperor was at that time...
Anti-Japanese Education in China
Later, She committed suicide.... maybe because she felt sense of guilty.
AMEN
That was absolutely uncalled for, and that comment is absolutely baseless in regards to evidence supporting that as well. As the original poster (if that means anything or you have any consideration for that) I'm going to politely ask that you stop posting inflammatory posts that are simply just trolling this thread. I'm seeking actual source material, not this type of junk. I think you've posted enough of that considering half your posts contain veiled insults or inflammatory remarks. This sort of immature behavior is what always leads to these topics being locked, because a few poster's unjustifiable behavior.
If all you are going to do is post like this, please take it else where. Thank you.
In addition, I would like to inform you of the interesting link about so-called comfort woman. ABC of Modern Japanese History:Books on "Comfort Women" - livedoor Blogﾂ｡ﾃ環･ﾃ鳴･ﾃｺﾃ?ｰﾂ｡ﾃ擬/url]
"Comfort woman" was started by a Japanese report some 20 years ago (later he admitted that his story was fabricated.) and used by Asahi Shinbun as an interesting topic, and then Koreans jumped on that subject as they want momey from J-government.
This is another historic propaganda.
Agree.
The book I refererred to the above is written by historian and published by academic publishing house.
When will people get around to forgetting about the war? It happened so long ago.This is a fairly big question, one that I've been studying for some time but tend to come up with little.
I've been to Nanjing, I've been to South Korea, I've spoken with comfort women, I've read the books, I've been to the sites, and I've seen some of the documents (both translated and untranslated). However, I'm always left wondering, what is the argument for denial by the nationalist factions in Japan? I've asked this question to those who tend to support the denial side of the argument and been given links or references to books, but what I end up with is usually illogical pasted together garbage and convoluted books that earn the low reviews they get blasted with. Either that or I get just a bunch of questionable poor youtube links. From claims of forged photographs, to hidden bank accounts, everything is loose, and mixed with hearsay. While proof for issues such as the Nanjing Massacre and comfort women issue is not undeniable, the proof that has been found by people such as Yoshimi Yoshiaki and the diary found by Iris Chang (despite her fairly lousy book), are near irrefutable.
So my question is this, and it is a difficult question: What is the basis and what is the proof for denial of the Japanese atrocities such as those above? Proof that can be juxtaposed against the proof that supports the events or calls in to question the validity without simply assumption, and claims mixed with paranoia and faith.
Thanks to anyone who is willing to share their experience and knowledge.