Is this the correct symbol?
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Hey Mike,
Well technically my wife is headed for the parlor not me.
Her father passed away suddenly a few months ago and she wants to get a memorial tattoo.
The symbol for remember on the inside of her wrist with a cherry blossom branch coming from next to it and wrapping around to her forearm.
Here a link to a picture of the artist's work that will be doing the work.
//ryantree.com/images/specialty_items/large/319-tattoos%20for%20website%20019.jpg
Well technically my wife is headed for the parlor not me.
Her father passed away suddenly a few months ago and she wants to get a memorial tattoo.
The symbol for remember on the inside of her wrist with a cherry blossom branch coming from next to it and wrapping around to her forearm.
Here a link to a picture of the artist's work that will be doing the work.
//ryantree.com/images/specialty_items/large/319-tattoos%20for%20website%20019.jpg
undrentide
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偲 is used for a verb 偲ぶ (shinobu), meaning to rember something/someone of the past or far away (so it is not solely to remember the deceased) with cherishing, missing, longing.
To my knowledge 偲 is not used on its own, though. I've only see it as a verb with conjugation part in hiragana （ぶ）.
According to kanji dictionary this usage is particular to Japanese language and its original meaning (in Chinese) of the kanji is to make efforts persistently, or to be meticulous.
To my knowledge 偲 is not used on its own, though. I've only see it as a verb with conjugation part in hiragana （ぶ）.
According to kanji dictionary this usage is particular to Japanese language and its original meaning (in Chinese) of the kanji is to make efforts persistently, or to be meticulous.
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Hey Undrentide,
I see what your saying,
"remember" is a verb in English as well, and in a proper sentence would not be used alone.
One of the trends of tattooing here is taking a single word generally verbs or nouns and making it a "statement"
I guess the real question is if you saw 偲 by itself with out ぶ would you think "remember"?
And what about the expression 故人を偲ぶ would that be convey remembering a loved one?
I see what your saying,
"remember" is a verb in English as well, and in a proper sentence would not be used alone.
One of the trends of tattooing here is taking a single word generally verbs or nouns and making it a "statement"
I guess the real question is if you saw 偲 by itself with out ぶ would you think "remember"?
And what about the expression 故人を偲ぶ would that be convey remembering a loved one?
undrentide
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Yes, most Japanese who know the kanji 偲 would associate the word 偲ぶ when looking at the single kanji 偲.
(I cannot tell about Chinese people who also use kanji (hanzi) would have the same association, though, because the kanji does not seem to have the same meaning in Chinese.)
故人を偲ぶ means "to remember the deceased" with positive connotation.
Whether "the deceased" is the loved one (someone who was so close) or just someone from the history etc. depends on the context, so while it is not "always" a loved one, it can be one of the possibilities.
(I cannot tell about Chinese people who also use kanji (hanzi) would have the same association, though, because the kanji does not seem to have the same meaning in Chinese.)
故人を偲ぶ means "to remember the deceased" with positive connotation.
Whether "the deceased" is the loved one (someone who was so close) or just someone from the history etc. depends on the context, so while it is not "always" a loved one, it can be one of the possibilities.
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Thank you very much for your help Undrentide.
I realize the Kanji in to tattoo is not everyone's favorite subject around here.
From a westerners point if view I will say that part of the desire to use kanji is.
Done in the traditional calligraphy it truly is and art form and many appreciate it as such.
I will say I'm not a fan of just kanji base tattoos, But in my wife's case where she wants a traditional style cherry blossom tree it seems it would be fitting. (she has found memories of her and her father with one from their backyard)
Thanx again for your response Undrentide.
She is getting it done in a couple of week and I will post a pic of the completed piece.
I realize the Kanji in to tattoo is not everyone's favorite subject around here.
From a westerners point if view I will say that part of the desire to use kanji is.
Done in the traditional calligraphy it truly is and art form and many appreciate it as such.
I will say I'm not a fan of just kanji base tattoos, But in my wife's case where she wants a traditional style cherry blossom tree it seems it would be fitting. (she has found memories of her and her father with one from their backyard)
Thanx again for your response Undrentide.
She is getting it done in a couple of week and I will post a pic of the completed piece.
undrentide
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Hi Kabong,
Thank you for explaining all the background.
I believe that many people around here do not like kanji tattoos because there are many people who do not understand the language trying to get kanji tattoo and insisting to express something only in kanji (not like your wife's example, but more like a long message) which is impossible to do in Japanese except some special expressions originated from China.
And there are many silly (for others to see, and sad for the person who got tattoo) examples of kanji tats - those conveying something quite different from one intended, incorrect kanji, wrong kanji, warped, upside down, etc. or awful style only appreciated in the west where people really don't know the language.
Maybe you've already know there's a very good site about it but if not, please check out Hanzi Smatter with your wife to avoid errors (once you got it, you cannot change or eliminate it so easily) before she actually get the tattoo.
I myself do not mind people getting kanji tattoo simply because it is not my skin
As for the kanji 偲 and the reason why your wife want it, I do not see particular problems about it, and it looks fine for me.
Just a side note, the tattoo of cherry blossoms in your photo is not traditional sakura.
Don't take me wrong, I do not mean to criticize, but it is a typical western tattoo design for cherry blossoms. (And to be honest the trunk and branch look more like ume/plum trees.)
Typical sakura (cherry blossoms) patterns
桜★『日本と世界の伝統文様』 : ☆Our songs☆
http://www.google.co.jp/images?q=%E4...art=40&ndsp=20
Typical Japanese tattoo for sakura
http://pub.ne.jp/threeslope/?cat_id=108677
http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/200904/05...94_2074317.jpg
But again, it is your wife who is getting the tattoo, so the most important thing is that she should get the design she likes best, and certainly she does not have to stick to something authentic. The design should be something she can love for the rest of her life.
I hope she'll get a nice tattoo to commemorate her father.
Thank you for explaining all the background.
I believe that many people around here do not like kanji tattoos because there are many people who do not understand the language trying to get kanji tattoo and insisting to express something only in kanji (not like your wife's example, but more like a long message) which is impossible to do in Japanese except some special expressions originated from China.
And there are many silly (for others to see, and sad for the person who got tattoo) examples of kanji tats - those conveying something quite different from one intended, incorrect kanji, wrong kanji, warped, upside down, etc. or awful style only appreciated in the west where people really don't know the language.
Maybe you've already know there's a very good site about it but if not, please check out Hanzi Smatter with your wife to avoid errors (once you got it, you cannot change or eliminate it so easily) before she actually get the tattoo.
I myself do not mind people getting kanji tattoo simply because it is not my skin
As for the kanji 偲 and the reason why your wife want it, I do not see particular problems about it, and it looks fine for me.
Just a side note, the tattoo of cherry blossoms in your photo is not traditional sakura.
Don't take me wrong, I do not mean to criticize, but it is a typical western tattoo design for cherry blossoms. (And to be honest the trunk and branch look more like ume/plum trees.)
Typical sakura (cherry blossoms) patterns
桜★『日本と世界の伝統文様』 : ☆Our songs☆
http://www.google.co.jp/images?q=%E4...art=40&ndsp=20
Typical Japanese tattoo for sakura
http://pub.ne.jp/threeslope/?cat_id=108677
http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/200904/05...94_2074317.jpg
But again, it is your wife who is getting the tattoo, so the most important thing is that she should get the design she likes best, and certainly she does not have to stick to something authentic. The design should be something she can love for the rest of her life.
I hope she'll get a nice tattoo to commemorate her father.
